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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
April 04 2018 05:20 GMT
#21
On April 03 2018 19:07 Turbovolver wrote:
But if you've got multiple multiple hours to kill, a series of videos starting here really hits the spot.


Such an entertaining video series. I just finished part 5.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2451 Posts
April 04 2018 05:34 GMT
#22
On April 04 2018 14:20 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2018 19:07 Turbovolver wrote:
But if you've got multiple multiple hours to kill, a series of videos starting here really hits the spot.


Such an entertaining video series. I just finished part 5.

It only gets better as Lost goes more and more off the rails, too!

I love how many explicit, out-and-out lies he catches the producers out on, really juicy.
The original Bogus fan.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14211 Posts
April 04 2018 23:05 GMT
#23
On April 04 2018 14:34 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 14:20 ninazerg wrote:
On April 03 2018 19:07 Turbovolver wrote:
But if you've got multiple multiple hours to kill, a series of videos starting here really hits the spot.


Such an entertaining video series. I just finished part 5.

It only gets better as Lost goes more and more off the rails, too!

I love how many explicit, out-and-out lies he catches the producers out on, really juicy.

I love how the start of it is really tight and on point but then spirals out of control in the length of the videos and the quality of the review. Its like poetry it rhymes.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
April 05 2018 07:28 GMT
#24
On April 05 2018 08:05 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 14:34 Turbovolver wrote:
On April 04 2018 14:20 ninazerg wrote:
On April 03 2018 19:07 Turbovolver wrote:
But if you've got multiple multiple hours to kill, a series of videos starting here really hits the spot.


Such an entertaining video series. I just finished part 5.

It only gets better as Lost goes more and more off the rails, too!

I love how many explicit, out-and-out lies he catches the producers out on, really juicy.

I love how the start of it is really tight and on point but then spirals out of control in the length of the videos and the quality of the review. Its like poetry it rhymes.


Yeah, part 7 is 2 hours long, and part 8 is 3 hours. Jeebus Christ. I am very glad the guy made the video series, though. He really leaves no stone unturned in his analysis of Lost.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-08 01:27:51
April 08 2018 01:27 GMT
#25
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On April 02 2018 02:23 ninazerg wrote:
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On April 01 2018 19:38 DSK wrote:
Why the hell does running out of fuel equate to losing shields? THEY ARE NOT GODMODE STRONG UNTIL YOU HAPPEN TO RUN OUT OF FUEL!. Then again Disney confirmed that EU, and I imagine the Star Wars games, aren't canon.


That's semi-explainable. The Star Wars universe really hasn't shed much light on how exactly ships work, because they're supposed to be as commonplace as cars. The source of their "fuel" was never really touched on throughout the whole original trilogy, and in the prequels, the only thing that they mention is having "power". Whatever is the source of the ship's power produces pure energy, which can be used to travel or produce deflector shields.

I was actually going to write about this but decided not to because I wasn't sure how to explain it, but it's sort of an old space-adventure paradigm for how ships operate. In this paradigm:

- Small ships travel in the way that aircraft on Earth do, and large ships travel in the way that floating vessels on Earth do.
- All ships have "Shields", which are made of energy and absorb damage.
- Ships have hyperdrives/hyperspace travel/wormhole travel or some means of traveling at an abnormally fast speed.

There is some variance between science fiction franchises. For example, in StarCraft, the "shields" are produced by psionic energy. Everything in the Protoss world has to do with some kind of psionic power, and it 'fuels' all of the Protoss stuff, which is why you need pylons. An example of psionic energy being drained is the Dark Archon's mind control ability. When the Dark Archon uses mind control, it requires so much psychic energy that not only is its mana drained, but its shields are gone as well.

In TLJ, the Resistance cruiser is traveling at full non-hyperspace speed. Also, it is mentioned in the movie that they've diverted all of the available power to the rear deflector shield. Because the engine and the shield generator are drawing from the same power source, once the fuel is gone, the shields go out. Normally, the shield is evenly distributed around the ship, so that it can take damage from any direction and be relatively safe. Being able to redistribute power to a certain area of the ship actually goes back to A New Hope during the trench sequence. In TLJ, the Resistance cruiser is putting all of its shields on its ass-side as it flees. Additionally, they're far away from the dreadnaught's cannons (This is how the movie explained it) so that they remained outside of the effective range of the cannons. So while the cannons were firing on the cruiser, by the time the shots reached the cruiser, they had lost most of their ability to deal damage.


nina that's a valid explanation if I do say so myself, but not even a cursory explanation that supplemented the above was in the film. Why the hell weren't you in the room with Mr Johnson when he was writing the script?!. You could be the Chris Metzen loremaster or something.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
April 08 2018 04:09 GMT
#26
On April 08 2018 10:27 DSK wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 02 2018 02:23 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2018 19:38 DSK wrote:
Why the hell does running out of fuel equate to losing shields? THEY ARE NOT GODMODE STRONG UNTIL YOU HAPPEN TO RUN OUT OF FUEL!. Then again Disney confirmed that EU, and I imagine the Star Wars games, aren't canon.


That's semi-explainable. The Star Wars universe really hasn't shed much light on how exactly ships work, because they're supposed to be as commonplace as cars. The source of their "fuel" was never really touched on throughout the whole original trilogy, and in the prequels, the only thing that they mention is having "power". Whatever is the source of the ship's power produces pure energy, which can be used to travel or produce deflector shields.

I was actually going to write about this but decided not to because I wasn't sure how to explain it, but it's sort of an old space-adventure paradigm for how ships operate. In this paradigm:

- Small ships travel in the way that aircraft on Earth do, and large ships travel in the way that floating vessels on Earth do.
- All ships have "Shields", which are made of energy and absorb damage.
- Ships have hyperdrives/hyperspace travel/wormhole travel or some means of traveling at an abnormally fast speed.

There is some variance between science fiction franchises. For example, in StarCraft, the "shields" are produced by psionic energy. Everything in the Protoss world has to do with some kind of psionic power, and it 'fuels' all of the Protoss stuff, which is why you need pylons. An example of psionic energy being drained is the Dark Archon's mind control ability. When the Dark Archon uses mind control, it requires so much psychic energy that not only is its mana drained, but its shields are gone as well.

In TLJ, the Resistance cruiser is traveling at full non-hyperspace speed. Also, it is mentioned in the movie that they've diverted all of the available power to the rear deflector shield. Because the engine and the shield generator are drawing from the same power source, once the fuel is gone, the shields go out. Normally, the shield is evenly distributed around the ship, so that it can take damage from any direction and be relatively safe. Being able to redistribute power to a certain area of the ship actually goes back to A New Hope during the trench sequence. In TLJ, the Resistance cruiser is putting all of its shields on its ass-side as it flees. Additionally, they're far away from the dreadnaught's cannons (This is how the movie explained it) so that they remained outside of the effective range of the cannons. So while the cannons were firing on the cruiser, by the time the shots reached the cruiser, they had lost most of their ability to deal damage.


nina that's a valid explanation if I do say so myself, but not even a cursory explanation that supplemented the above was in the film. Why the hell weren't you in the room with Mr Johnson when he was writing the script?!. You could be the Chris Metzen loremaster or something.


The film actually makes quite a few assumptions about what the audience knows. That's one of the reasons the fuel thing doesn't seem properly explained. Because I'm a huge nerd, I can think back to Episode 4, and remember the squadron leader saying "Divert all power to your rear deflector shields" or something close to that. For a new fan coming into the series, I can't imagine them being anything other than horribly confused. I mean, a lot of the movie has elements lifted from The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of The Jedi. But it was meant to be a sort-of anti-Empire. Because TFA stole borrowed the script from A New Hope, I think a lot of people expected the second installment to be a rip-off of Empire. It seems like Rian Johnson did something like that, but did a lot of fake-outs to make it seem like it would be an Episode 5 clone, but then would flip the script.

For a viewer that hadn't viewed Episode 5 recently, or who is unfamiliar with Episode 5 altogether, they would have no frame of reference to tell what Johnson was trying to do. For example, if you were new to the Star Wars series in TFA, Yoda would show up in TLJ, and you'd be like "Wait, who is that ghost-goblin thing?" or when Luke Skywalker talks about Darth Sidious taking over the galaxy, you'd be like "Wait, what is he talking about?" In TFA, the force is pretty much treated as "magic that makes Rey unbeatable", and very little is told about it. Not much about the force is revealed in Episode 4, except what you absolutely need to know: it's an energy that's everywhere that is the source of life. So when Obi-Wan dies, he's just becoming one with the force, and can still communicate with Luke Skywalker as if he were still in a material body. The concept of the force giving people 'abilities' is only revealed in Episode 5 when Luke uses it to pull his lightsaber out of the snow after getting hung upside-down by the wampa. Then Obi-Wan appears and tells Luke to go see Yoda, and the force is explored more in-depth.

In TLJ, if you don't know what the force is or what it can do, you'd just assume it's magic, because Rey can move rocks with it and talk to Kylo Ren with it. But because it's assumed the viewer knows what the force is, people are expected to understand why Luke disappears at the end of the film. He's just letting his mortal body become one with the force, but if you've never seen any Star Wars before TFA, how is anyone supposed to know that? Where I feel that TFA and TLJ are both very weak are in their story-telling, because if this is meant to reboot the series and bring it to a new generation, it's important that this new generation understand how this universe works. If Rey is female space Jesus, that's fine, but I would've hoped that someone would tell the audience why.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2358 Posts
April 11 2018 03:38 GMT
#27
i liked your blog and i like the last jedi, im confused.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
April 11 2018 18:41 GMT
#28
On April 11 2018 12:38 XenOsky- wrote:
i liked your blog and i like the last jedi, im confused.


It's okay to like both.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
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