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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
April 01 2018 03:17 GMT
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"It's that bad." - Chester Bennington, RIP


Spoilers Ahead, Lads: If you haven't seen Star Wars: The Last Jedi, I would advise you not to pay money to do so. Also, if somehow you've made it this far without spoilers, then I'm going to tell you right now that I'm going to spoil the movie. Kind of. It's already spoiled by Disney.




Where do you start with a movie like this? I wrote a blog some months ago expressing frustration that Disney has no long-term plan for the franchise, and are just making it up as they go, kind of like JJ Abrams did with Lost. My long-standing hypothesis on Lost is that there was never an end-goal for the story. However, the premise of the show was good, and the characters were good, so the show was wildly successful. It was like Game Of Thrones, just in the 2000s. The big difference, obviously, is that GOTR is based on a series of books, and so the story has a structure already in place. Lost did not have a story in place (as I allege) and so it was effectively going nowhere. Therefore, nothing can be done with the story, and therefore, no satisfactory ending could come about. But the show needed an ending. It couldn't just turn into Gilligan's Island and expect to be taken seriously. Plus, the fans wanted to know what was going on.

The comparison to Lost is not far off, except that Lost had a short-term mass appeal to it, whereas Star Wars has like, long-term niche-appeal to it. I feel like one of the strategies to marketing the new franchise was to grow the audience away from the nerd-niche, and make Star Wars more 'mainstream'. That sounds pretty crazy, considering how popular the series is already, but Disney bought the franchise for approximately 4 BILLION dollars. They had to make that money back. If we lay out some numbers here:

The Force Awakens - 306 million dollars to make (gross)
The Last Jedi - 200 million dollars to make

That's about 500 million. Usually, promotion costs as least as much as the film to produce, so then you're looking at the price tag being the 4 billion to buy Lucasfilm, and another 1 billion to make and promote.

So far in, sales, TFA has made 2 billion dollars, and TLJ has made 1.3 billion, which means they're still in the hole by 2.7 billion dollars. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MERCH SALES, YOU AXE?

Bad

Now, there are over 9,000 videos on Youtube dot com and also Vimeo that explain why they didn't like TLJ. Some take the "middle road" and say "I liked this but didn't like this" and point out lots of pros and cons. A big pro for me was when Chewie is flying the Millennium Falcon and slaps a porg off the dashboard. A big con for me was this movie. I mentioned before that I thought Disney had absolutely fucked the whole franchise in the ass by bringing a second director in to write/direct the second part of a three-part trilogy. Imagine if you were a Lord of The Rings fan, but Peter Jackson could only direct the first and third movies, but for some reason the studio gave the second movie to Lars Von Trier. Actually, that might be pretty cool. So, let's just say Michael Bay.

I just thought Gantz Disney was fucking with me until I saw this:

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huh?

Some time earlier, when presented with evidence that Kathleen Kennedy said the trilogy was going to have some kind of direction, Rian Johnson responded with this:

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So there was no plan, hm? I think someone may have been lyingggg...

The way Johnson has treated the fans has been ridiculous and Paul Feig-esque.

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rly tho?



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Get savaged on, fans who paid money to see this movie.


So, from what I gather, there was a plan (which may have been worse than what Rian Johnson did; we may never know) and then Rian Johnson ignored that plan, then made this nonsense movie, and when it got criticized, Johnson and his Hollywood pals mocked the fans and called them a bunch of crybabies. Maybe this movie is a metaphor for there being a plan, and Rian Johnson is saying he's like Poe Dameron, and is trying to fuck up the true plan with his own. But that's just a theory... a GAME theory.

Now, I've heard that the fans are "impossible" to please. Apparently, TFA was too similar to the original trilogy and the TLJ was too dissimilar. Lmao, what a bunch of crybaby nerds, amirite? Let's insult them and call them neckbeards. No, you fools! If you get into the bath-tub, the water can be way too cold, and also, it can be scalding hot. An actor can under-act and deliver flat dialogue and emotionless expressions, but an actor can also over-act and look like an insane person. So just because TFA was too similar to the original trilogy doesn't absolve Rian Johnson of any criticism. He would still have a write a story that works in the context of a trilogy structure.

Let's talk about some shit:

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Supreme Leader Snoke - Would the new trilogy have a new super-powerful villain who pulls the strings behind the scenes who is a menace to the galaxy, or are we going to get a comic-book villain who acts like a dumbass? TFA suggested we'd get the first one. Who is this motherfucker? Han Solo knows who he is. Luke Skywalker knows who he is. Leia knows who he is. Ben Solo knows who he is. How did he meet Ben Solo? Where did he come from? WELL THE ANSWER IS "FUCK YOU".

It's a really bad story-telling (or lack of) element that people heavily criticized the prequels for. Darth Maul was introduced, and you thought he was going to be some bad-ass who would have a role through the prequel trilogy. No, though. The movies don't explain who he is or where he came from, which I guess is kinda okay. He's just there to be a bad guy and fight the good guys, and that's what he does. Then he gets cut in half with a lightsaber.

Jengo Fett appears in the second prequel film as a major villain, but also suffers the same fate as Darth Maul: gets no backstory, has no motivation for joining the Separatists, then he gets his head cut off by a lightsaber.

Count Dooku is slightly more important, because he is the charismatic figurehead at the helm of the Separatist Movement, and even uses the force to battle Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Anakin, and so, you kinda assume he's going to be a major villain in Revenge of The Sith that the good guys have to fight at the end of the movie. But nope, he just gets his head cut off by a lightsaber. We never learn when he joined Darth Sidious as a Sith, or how he met Nute Gunray, or anything. Even in the title crawl, he is said to be "mysterious", and this leads the viewer to believe there will be some revelation about him that is a major plot point. Instead, he just is introduced, then killed off.

The thing about Snoke is that he is the catalyst for the entirety of the events in the new trilogy. There would be no "war" if hadn't started a war. Ben Solo wouldn't have had a mentor to lead him to the dark side. Naturally, fans speculated who Snoke might be, since JJ Abrams clearly had an idea, but Rian Johnson just goes "Your Snoke theory sucks" while simultaneously not shedding any light on Snoke's role. I don't even need to know his "origin story". I just want to know who the fuck he is and what his goal is.



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Rey - Who is Rey? Nobody knows. Not even Poe Dameron knows who she is. They "meet" at the end of the movie, despite them being at the same Resistance base at the end of TFA. So while The Empire Strikes Back introduced romance into Star Wars, Rey doesn't get any romance. I know Han Solo wanted to bang her because he went for decades with just him and Chewbacca, then suddenly wanted to hire her as a crew member, probably to bypass his compressor, if you know what I mean. Like Snoke, Rey gets no story despite being the main fucking character of the movie. I don't think I'd mind TFA giving her so little backstory if TLJ filled some of those gaps, if you know what I mean.

I don't even care that much about her Mary Sue-ish stuff. Like, when you're hanging out on Jakku alone, you have a lot of spare time, and she probably just was fucking around and found about the force by accident, but didn't know what it was. Then Han could tell her "The Force is a thing" and she'd put two and two together and go "Oh, so I was using the force this whole time. Cool beans." but since she received no backstory, we don't know anything about her, and we're 2/3rds through this goddamn series already. At one point, Kylo Ren turns to the camera, looks directly into it and says "Rey has no backstory. Her parents are nobody. All your fan theories suck."

A very cool direction the movie could've gone would've been Rey turning to the dark side. Or maybe Kylo turning to the light side. Both really interesting story arcs that could lead into the third movie, but nah. And Snoke doesn't even learn any lessons from Emperor Palpatine. Did he even meet Emperor Palpatine? Perhaps him and Palpatine were enemies, and once Palpatine died, Snoke sensed it and took over his former enemy's place. But nah.



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Rose x Finn - I like Rose. Except when she rammed Finn. I think everyone else covered that in the one million+ videos criticizing this movie. She rammed him so hard. But everyone who watches this movie is like "Why is nobody mourning the death of Han?" and it's because Rian Johnson wanted to dedicate the maximum amount of screen time to horse-dogs possible. But Rose also lost someone: her sister was killed in battle, and she doesn't even shed a tear. She could've been a cool character if her and Finn did something bad-ass, like storming the bridge to Snoke's dreadnought or something. But nah. Rian Johnson constantly goes "SIKE." and then flips the script throughout the movie. Finn and Rose saving the day? Nah. They just get captured. Then Finn gets to redeem himself, and Rose rams him really, really hard. A lot of people think this was stupid, but it makes sense since Rose loves Finn. However, does Finn love Rose? I don't think that half of the relationship was ever established. It's a weird one-way relationship where Rose just is enamored with Finn and then mouth-rapes him after ramming him without his consent. Gross!



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Holdo - Remember the mom from Jurassic Park? She's back in this new science-fiction space-opera as The Worst Character Ever Written. Everything she does is absolutely wrong. This whole movie is absolute nonsense because of her. Like every other character, she's woefully underwritten, and it's Johnson's way of confusing the audience. You're supposed to hate her and think she's a villain, so that Rian Johnson can jebait you and make her good. Except everyone still hates her, and when she kills herself, you're like "Thank The Force she's dead." Also, a dreadnought the size of Snoke's would have a deflector shield that would be able to resist the impact of another ship.

If you're writing a script to a weird mind-bending movie, confusing the audience is okay. In fact, confusing the audience is often mistaken for 'genius writing'. Star Wars, however, is usually pretty straightforward... except when George Lucas needs to retroactively make Darth Vader Luke's father and has to make Obi-Wan's force-ghost show up to retcon A New Hope a little bit. But there's a reason for that. Lucas didn't know that the first movie would ever be so well-received, and never planned to go past that one film. Lo and behold, it happened, and the story needed an arc of redemption.

For a script like TLJ, there is no arc. Also, unlike George Lucas, Disney knew for absolute certain that if the doomsday meteor didn't hit, there would be three new Star Wars films. That's why stuff like Holdo being the most underwritten and confusing character is so frustrating. At least with Jar-Jar Binx, you know why he's in the prequels, which is to provide humor to balance out the otherwise overly-dry and serious movie. Now, Jar-Jar just comes off as annoying to most people, and doesn't really work, but people know what the intention was. For Holdo, nobody knows what the intention was. She's just so weird that people don't know what to make of her, and so tons of critics of the movie were left with an open interpretation of her. That's not good, because she's a over-controlling bitch for most of the movie, has purple hair, and is in the right whereas Poe is in the wrong for going against her. That suggests to a lot of people that she was inserted into the movie as a "Social Justice" character who in the script to show that women shouldn't be questioned because they can have awesome secret plans.

We don't know, because Holdo isn't really well-written at all, and as most of the people who saw the movie have pointed out, she really should've told Poe Dameron the fucking plan.

If she's meant to be an empowering figure for women, then tell me who she is, why she didn't tell Poe the plan, and then not kill her off in the same movie, because I don't feel very empowered right now.



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Leia - She looks at CP30 and says "Wipe that look off your face!" and I guess it's supposed to be funny, but made me cringe like I just put a sour-drop lemon candy in my mouth. I don't care about all the other bullshit like her surviving floating in space, flying to her ship, going through the airlock, being in a coma for the whole movie, etc. Just the fact that she told a robot that she's known her whole life to change his facial expression when she knows that's not possible, and being serious about it, makes me want to punch the side of a barn.



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Jedi Texts - At no point in any Star Wars movie (maybe the Ewok movies) are there books. Yet, there they are, the only books in the galaxy. Besides being a total anomaly in the context of the Star Wars universe, they shouldn't even exist. If Luke was fed up with the Jedi Order, he'd have already burned the books way before Rey got to the island. He would've said "Jedi stuff is shit!" and torched them. When Rey leaves the island, she takes the books with her, so when Yoda calls down lightning, does Yoda realize he's just nuked nothing? Sure, being one with the Force that is a part of everything, Yoda would fucking know this, but since Rian Johnson is bad at storytelling (yeah, I said it), Yoda just blows the fucking out of some random tree. Then, Yoda says something that no one should ever say in a Star Wars movie: "Page-turners, they were not." and the reason for this is a basic principle of world-building. If you want to create a universe that is completely different from our own, you can't have the people use some of the same colloquialisms that we use in the real world. That doesn't mean the language is going to be different, but some of the expressions have to be changed. That's why you have phrases like "Nerf-herder" and "Bantha-fodder" being used in the original trilogy. That's why teenage boys in the Star Wars universe idea of fun is shooting up womp-rats and then going down to the Tosche Station to buy some power-converters.



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2-hour chase scene Imagine if a chase-scene went on for two hours. That's this whole movie. While every other Star Wars movie takes place over an expansive galaxy with many different locations (vistas, if you will) over the course of days, weeks, or maybe even months, this whole movie is a big ship chasing a little ship. Actually, the rebel cruiser is fucking huge, because you see it next to a medical frigate, which looks tiny next to it. That means the dreadnought is even huger.

The situation, to be blunt, is kind of stupid. The Resistance cruiser is actually faster than The First Order's dreadnaughts, and should be able to outrun them easily. Nevertheless, the The First Order stays on the cruiser the entire time. At no point, though, does anyone from The First Order go "Hey, let's send some TIE-fighters out to destroy it!" Now, I know logic isn't this movie's strong-suit, but we know that capital ships have on-board fighters, and we also know that The Resistance has no fighters left. I guess General Hux must've read a copy of the script.



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Are comparisons to original trilogy fair? - A big complaint among those who want to see new Star Wars material is that you can't keep recycling the same shit over and over. You have to see new things. I agree with that. My biggest gripe with TFA was the Starkiller Base. It shouldn't have even been in the movie. In TLJ, many people think it went way off-course, but in reality, a lot of the material is recycled sci-fi tropes, including stuff from the original trilogy, and the prequels. Everything has a little 'twist' on it, which is fine, but the story is very rushed in places where stuff needs to be explained (Like who Holdo is and why she's withholding information from Poe) and then explains way too much shit in other places where it's entirely unnecessary, like



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Canto Bight - Why is this in the movie?



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The Knights of Ren - Oh boy, the TLJ is coming out and we'll probably find out the meaning of Kylo Ren's name and who the Knights of Ren are! But nah. Welcome to Canto Bight.



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Bombs in space - I hear people complain about this all the time, but the bombs could have some kind of magnetic thing to pull them into their target. Not a huge deal. I just wonder why the bombers are so damn slow.



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Chewbacca - Rey learns to become fully fluent in wookie-language in a matter of days, and translates Chewie's noises to Luke. Then again, she's a magical force-user, and probably used the force to learn all the languages.

Chewie's old. You'd expect his fur to be grey, unless he's using "Just For Wookies" hair conditioner. He also doesn't do much in this movie, besides kicking down a door, and then flying the Millennium Falcon at the end when Rey is manning (or wommaning) the guns, and takes out four TIE-fighters with one shot! If you don't believe me, go look at the Battle of Crait scene again where the salt-speeders(?) are getting rekt by TIE-fighters and then Rey Ex Machina saves them sort of.

I firmly believe that Chewie should've eaten that porg-on-a-stick right in front of the live porg. I mean, it was already dead and cooked. I was like "Really, movie?", and so I was really happy when later on, Chewie uses his brutal strength to completely slap the shit out of a porg that is screeching like a lunatic.



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Luke Skywalker - Luke is the best character in the movie. A lot of people like Kylo Ren, as do I, but my favorite is Luke. Too bad he fucking dies. So now Han's dead, Luke's dead, and Leia is alive. Except Leia is dead irl. It's like Rian Johnson was like "How can I fuck this up for JJ? I know! Besides having to fill in all the information that I left out from my script, he also has to kill Leia off-screen. Brilliant!"

Many people, including Mark Hamill himself, didn't like Luke being bitter and anti-force. I did. I feel like Rian Johnson almost got this right. Almost. Allow me to explain: a lot can happen in 30 years. An optimist can turn into a pessimist. The blight of failure can turn a hero into a secluded old man. Luke is old, cranky, and doesn't want to have anything to do with the galactic war. He's done with that shit. He spent 30 years trying to make things right, and while he did blow up a Death Star, his latest foray into the spreading of Jedi arts led to things getting worse, and now his nephew is trying to take over the galaxy.

Where Johnson gets things wrong is contradicting TFA's Luke. If Luke went to the Jedi island to die, why did he make a map of how to get to him and place it in R2D2? In TFA, the story was told like he was hiding for some reason. In TLJ, he doesn't want to be found. Yet he made a map to himself, why? Additionally, Rey's mission was to go find Luke and bring him back to Leia. There was never any discussion about being trained. In the original trilogy, Luke goes to Dagobah with the intent of being taught how to use the force. In the new trilogy, Rey goes to Ahch-To (Bless you) not with the intent of any kind of training. For some reason, though, Luke agrees to 'train her'. Why? She already knows how to use the force. Luke from the original trilogy knew a few things, like how to force-lasso his lightsaber out of the snow, but didn't know much beyond that. Rey is already as powerful as Luke was in Return of The Jedi.

But, whatever, right? I still liked Luke Skywalker because Matt Hamill knows how to act, and he plays his part very well. Despite all the flaws in the logic of him training Rey, it's the part of the movie that people wanted more of, and less Canto Bight. Welcome to Canto Bight, where you get immediately imprisoned without a trial for parking violations.



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Oh boy, what's next? The Force Awakens left fans with a lot of questions, and excitement to see the next movie. People were genuinely excited to see Luke and Rey hang out, find out who Snoke is, find out if Rey and Finn fall in love, find out if Finn and Poe fall in love, learn about who Rey is, learn who the Knights of Ren are, et cetera. Nobody wanted horse-dogs. The thing that made The Last Jedi exciting was to see a continuation of the film that they liked, but were left questioning. Whether or not the unanswered stuff in TFA would hold up would depend on the answers they got in TLJ. But no, you get horse-dogs and Vice-Admiral Purple Hair. Why is her hair purple, anyway? Is that its natural color? Did she dye it? She looked more like a Hunger Games character than a Star Wars character. Anyyyyywayyyy, TFA did a good thing, which was that it left fans hungry for moar. It's a bad sign when your movie ends and the fans are like "How is JJ Abrams going to salvage the trilogy?" and when your only hope is JJ Abrams, you're basically fucked.

All in all, Rian Johnson did a pretty good job on The Last Jedi, and I was impressed by the visuals and the storytelling elements that make you think about how we view the world around us. I'm just kidding of course, the movie sucked, and he did a very bad job. I hope he goes to sleep at night and has dreams about making a good Star Wars movie, but then the script falls into a fire before he can shoot the movie. It would be a repeating dream that he has over and over again, always ending with a crowd of people screaming at him that he ruined Star Wars. He then goes to a therapist who tells him that the only way to overcome his subconscious demons is to place himself into a large garbage dumpster and repeat to himself "I belong here." over and over.

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Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
April 01 2018 05:30 GMT
#2
Good blog. I was howling with laughter reading it. Mostly because of your writing style, but also because you are wrong. TLJ was a good movie and Rian Johnson took the trilogy to a new direction and actually allowed it to take off beyond the chains of nostology and the original trilogy that JJ Abrams put it in in TFA.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
April 01 2018 06:50 GMT
#3
On April 01 2018 14:30 Oukka wrote:
Good blog. I was howling with laughter reading it. Mostly because of your writing style, but also because you are wrong. TLJ was a good movie and Rian Johnson took the trilogy to a new direction and actually allowed it to take off beyond the chains of nostology and the original trilogy that JJ Abrams put it in in TFA.


I don't know if "wrong" is the correct word, since the interpretation of films is completely subjective. I don't care if Rian Johnson took the movie in a different direction. I just don't think he did a good job at it. To be honest, if TLJ mirrored The Empire Strikes Back, exactly that would piss me off. However, what you're not seeing is that a lot of stuff in TLJ is lifted directly from Empire.

White planet: Hoth and Crait.
Big revelation: Luke's Father / Rey's parents
White planet weapons: AT-ATs / AT-ATs
Training: Yoda/Luke, Luke/Rey
Luke goes into dark forest / Rey goes into dark hole
Luke lifts rocks with Force / Rey lifts rocks with Foce
Millennium Falcon saves the day at the end (both)
Rebel base with trenches on Hoth, snow speeders / Resistance base with trenches on Crait, salt speeders
Rebels flee the Empire / Resistance flees First Order
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Tempest99
Profile Blog Joined January 2018
53 Posts
April 01 2018 08:26 GMT
#4
IncontroL and are both big Star Wars fans, although while he was playing the Tsavonglong (or Turtle--Iconic--Dragon) I was playing the role playing game, sometimes known as Star Wars D20.

Interesting how many times I rewrote this book

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hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland931 Posts
April 01 2018 10:07 GMT
#5
On April 01 2018 12:17 ninazerg wrote:
All in all, Rian Johnson did a pretty good job on The Last Jedi


Agreed.
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DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
April 01 2018 10:38 GMT
#6
My most prominent thoughts about the movie experience were "This film is too long" and "my ass hurts like a bastard".

There were too many weird, non-realistic things that happened. Biggest thing is Holdo not telling Poe, who was a prominent commander until the start of the movie anything about what is happening. Allay the fears! This guy has the ears and eyes of many rebels and is an ally!. Even I thought she was a baddie until it actually turned out she was just a bad character, written, portrayed or otherwise.

I agree the modern lingo and references really put me off too, the tone changed so much I couldn't keep up.

Why the hell does running out of fuel equate to losing shields? THEY ARE NOT GODMODE STRONG UNTIL YOU HAPPEN TO RUN OUT OF FUEL!. Then again Disney confirmed that EU, and I imagine the Star Wars games, aren't canon.

For me TLJ was worse than Rogue One. At least it made sense somewhat.
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
April 01 2018 13:28 GMT
#7
TLJ is an acceptably good film, if it was a Star Wars parody film.

The only film of the Disney era that I have not thought that it was a waste of money was Rogue One. Thank God for Rogue One. And now I'm obligated to rewatch the epic space battle it produced.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
April 01 2018 17:23 GMT
#8
On April 01 2018 19:38 DSK wrote:
Why the hell does running out of fuel equate to losing shields? THEY ARE NOT GODMODE STRONG UNTIL YOU HAPPEN TO RUN OUT OF FUEL!. Then again Disney confirmed that EU, and I imagine the Star Wars games, aren't canon.


That's semi-explainable. The Star Wars universe really hasn't shed much light on how exactly ships work, because they're supposed to be as commonplace as cars. The source of their "fuel" was never really touched on throughout the whole original trilogy, and in the prequels, the only thing that they mention is having "power". Whatever is the source of the ship's power produces pure energy, which can be used to travel or produce deflector shields.

I was actually going to write about this but decided not to because I wasn't sure how to explain it, but it's sort of an old space-adventure paradigm for how ships operate. In this paradigm:

- Small ships travel in the way that aircraft on Earth do, and large ships travel in the way that floating vessels on Earth do.
- All ships have "Shields", which are made of energy and absorb damage.
- Ships have hyperdrives/hyperspace travel/wormhole travel or some means of traveling at an abnormally fast speed.

There is some variance between science fiction franchises. For example, in StarCraft, the "shields" are produced by psionic energy. Everything in the Protoss world has to do with some kind of psionic power, and it 'fuels' all of the Protoss stuff, which is why you need pylons. An example of psionic energy being drained is the Dark Archon's mind control ability. When the Dark Archon uses mind control, it requires so much psychic energy that not only is its mana drained, but its shields are gone as well.

In TLJ, the Resistance cruiser is traveling at full non-hyperspace speed. Also, it is mentioned in the movie that they've diverted all of the available power to the rear deflector shield. Because the engine and the shield generator are drawing from the same power source, once the fuel is gone, the shields go out. Normally, the shield is evenly distributed around the ship, so that it can take damage from any direction and be relatively safe. Being able to redistribute power to a certain area of the ship actually goes back to A New Hope during the trench sequence. In TLJ, the Resistance cruiser is putting all of its shields on its ass-side as it flees. Additionally, they're far away from the dreadnaught's cannons (This is how the movie explained it) so that they remained outside of the effective range of the cannons. So while the cannons were firing on the cruiser, by the time the shots reached the cruiser, they had lost most of their ability to deal damage.
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SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
April 01 2018 17:44 GMT
#9
I didn't read the blog, just skimmed over the pictures. It didn't really paint the picture I was supposed to understand, I think.
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
April 01 2018 19:58 GMT
#10
hilarious read and I agree that TLJ was a pretty disappointing film
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13924 Posts
April 02 2018 02:24 GMT
#11
When I watched the deleted scenes it made me hate Rian Johnson even more. Those deleted scenes were actualy really good while RJ felt the need to fight for a nonsense slave boy (we care more about animals then slave children but okay) end scene and the entirety of the casino planet that we got.
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7291 Posts
April 02 2018 19:44 GMT
#12
I pretty much agree, the movie just falls apart with twists like so many Domino's Cinna-Twist Bread Bites.

Sure was a fun spectacle since I don't give two shits about Star Wars though!
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
April 02 2018 20:57 GMT
#13
On April 03 2018 04:44 Zambrah wrote:
I pretty much agree, the movie just falls apart with twists like so many Domino's Cinna-Twist Bread Bites.

Sure was a fun spectacle since I don't give two shits about Star Wars though!


I guess I officially stopped caring.
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
April 03 2018 00:13 GMT
#14
I feel like TFA was very poorly made but had an okayish overall plot.

TLJ was pretty good scene by scene. We finally got to see Ridley act. Hamill was great. Driver and Dameron were good. It's just that the story was crap and the message was stupid.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
April 03 2018 09:01 GMT
#15
On April 03 2018 09:13 Jerubaal wrote:
I feel like TFA was very poorly made but had an okayish overall plot.

TLJ was pretty good scene by scene. We finally got to see Ridley act. Hamill was great. Driver and Dameron were good. It's just that the story was crap and the message was stupid.


I feel that. As harsh as I am on TLJ, there were a lot of cool things in the movie. I feel like Rian Johnson is better as a director than as a writer. I think you're so right about the story.
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
April 03 2018 10:07 GMT
#16
Great blog. I haven't even watched the movie but I've been devouring takes on it all the same, and yours seems pretty switched on.

Also, Lost was written without a plan, a fact that becomes clear when you actually go back and watch from the start with this in mind. If you go and consume media material, you can also see the countless places that the producers (Abrams was only responsible for Season One though, the master of setting things up with no idea where to take them). Of course, I'm not suggesting you do that.

But if you've got multiple multiple hours to kill, a series of videos starting here really hits the spot.

... I haven't watched any of Lost either.
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nukkuj
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Finland403 Posts
April 03 2018 12:43 GMT
#17
Good read, new characters (non original trilogy ones) sucked ass, but I didn't care about them anyway. In the last 5 minutes or so the movie redeemed what was redeemable in Luke vs. Ben solo fight. That part alone was enjoyable, I kinda forgot what the rest was all about except repeating the cycle of life in world of Star Wars.

I regret paying to watch that piece of shit.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13924 Posts
April 03 2018 19:55 GMT
#18
On April 03 2018 19:07 Turbovolver wrote:
Great blog. I haven't even watched the movie but I've been devouring takes on it all the same, and yours seems pretty switched on.

Also, Lost was written without a plan, a fact that becomes clear when you actually go back and watch from the start with this in mind. If you go and consume media material, you can also see the countless places that the producers (Abrams was only responsible for Season One though, the master of setting things up with no idea where to take them). Of course, I'm not suggesting you do that.

But if you've got multiple multiple hours to kill, a series of videos starting here really hits the spot.

... I haven't watched any of Lost either.

To be fair to Abrams Season 1 of Lost was must see television and was practically a national event that everyone was glued into watching. It was solid gold I feel that (literaly) opened the door for the series to go almost anywhere. It just kept with a staff that didn't feel the need to have a direction until the tatoo episode revealed to them that they were already out of ideas.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 20:11:25
April 03 2018 20:10 GMT
#19
Great write-up.

I've now watched TLJ a few times, and my opinion of the movie has improved, somewhat. Don't get me wrong. There are many parts of the movie that are completely irredeemable -- space Leia, the forced SJW bullshit, the misplaced comedy, and countless incidents of horrific writing. However, Rian Johnson clearly had a vision for what he wanted to do with this movie and he did a pretty good job executing it. I just hate the vision, because it is fundamentally not Star Wars. Star War is not a tale of moral ambiguity. Star Wars resonates in popular culture precisely because it is all about the primal battle of good versus evil. The heroes are heroes (though they may temporarily falter), which is why TLJ's treatment of Luke is so abominable to many people. Call this simplistic if you want, but there are plenty of other options out there for people who want something with more nuance.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 04 2018 01:38 GMT
#20
Thank you. I was also pissed off by this movie. Terrible writing and moronic plots. But some SW defend it like it's the holy grail. I love SW but if we defend crap like this, we will continue to get crap again and again.

Rogue One was far superior.
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