• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:57
CEST 20:57
KST 03:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy3uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event14Serral wins EWC 202549Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple5SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event Rogue Talks: "Koreans could dominate again" Lambo Talks: The Future of SC2 and more... RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread
Tourneys
SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo) ByuN vs TaeJa Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Global Tourney for College Students in September RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL20 Pre-season Tier List ranking! BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL Season 20 Ro24 Groups
Tourneys
KCM 2025 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 615 users

SC1 and BW Sci-Fi Tropes and Legacy – Protoss

Blogs > Heartland
Post a Reply
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
December 08 2016 10:09 GMT
#1
Welcome to the latest and last part of my three-part series on the use of sci-fi tropes in vanilla sc1 and Brood War. This time around we’re going to look at Protoss which I think is one of the most interesting in terms of the difference in inspiration from the other two races. As I’ve talked about before Terran and Zerg are heavily reliant on the Alien and Starship Troopers series. Protoss, on the other hand, is quite different. Let’s go take a look, shall we?

Protoss is heavily indebted to Babylon 5 for inspiration. In particular Protoss are based off of two races, the Mimbari and the Vorlons. I’d argue that the Vorlons are the main inspiration for the early part of vanilla Starcraft. Basically the Vorlons are an ancient race which represents Order, they are locked in eternal war against their opposites called the Shadows which represent – that’s right – Chaos. Let’s compare the opening plot of vanilla Starcraft to the Vorlon plot:

PROLOGUE:

In the decade since the end of the Guild
Wars, the oppressive Terran Confederacy has
stood unchallenged in its supremacy over
colonized space.

All of that changed four days ago when a
large alien fleet emerged from warp-space and
laid waste to the unsuspecting Confederate
colony of Chau Sara.

The Confederacy, fearing that the alien fleet's
next target will be the colony of Mar Sara,
has sent you to intervene. Acting as
Magistrate, you are to safeguard the
colonists and keep their panic from
escalating any further.


Wikipedia gives this general entry of what the Vorlons are up to:

By the time of the series, the Vorlons and Shadows have long since lost sight of the original goal. The intent of both elder species was to encourage the growth of younger species through the competition of order and chaos. The conflict metamorphosed into a game for military (rather than ideological) dominion. The Vorlons began to treat the younger species as pawns. This outlook took an extreme shift following the death of the first Ambassador Kosh Naranek, ending with a move to eliminate all worlds touched by the Shadows by means of a planet killer, a huge ship that could reduce a planet to rubble with a single shot.


Indeed, these planet-killers appear to suddenly destroy planets later found out to be corrupted by the Shadows in a similar way in which Protoss fleets totally destroy the Zerg-infested Confederate colonies. Protoss does not have a special "planet killer"-ship in vanilla SC and BW but a similar unit appears later on in Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty. The trope is the same however.

In this frame we can see that Zerg and Protoss take the role of Vorlons and Shadows. Further, Vorlons are telepathic and locked in massive suits, the fact that Vorlons hide their features differs from Protoss however. The general look of Protoss is more akin to Minbari of Babylon 5 and the Eldar in Warhammer 40 000. Both these races are part of the “ancient enigmatic psyker race” trope.

The Starcraft 1 and Brood War campaigns generally follow how Minbari, Vorlons and Eldar develop – that their pride leads to their fall, that a few of them see some mercy for the weaker human race and fight their arrogant racist brethren.

[image loading]
Minbari

[image loading]
Eldar

The fact that Protoss are so much more bulky and physically strong in comparison to Eldar and Minbari is interesting. The trope is usually portrayed as nimble, dexterous and refined rather than massive and powerful. Perhaps this is just an interesting take on the trope which breathes new life into it or perhaps it’s due to what I believe is the strangest conceptual inspiration for Protoss yet:

[image loading]

Predator is a movie about an alien hunter which is both portrayed as a beast, a barbarian (complete with all the trappings of honour) and a high tech sci-fi creature. I began to realize this as one thing that has always confused me has been the snarling noises that Zealots make in Brood War:


Why is it that this Mimbari/Protoss/Vorlon-inspired trope makes beastial noises? I believe that here the inspiration from Predator shines through. The cloaking which Protoss units are capable of also start to make sense if we think about it through the lens of Predator.

(I can't find the movie as stand-alone, it starts at 1:10)

Do you agree? Not agree? Would you like to add something? Would you like me to try and get into Starcraft 2 inspiration as well? Give me some feedback!


*****
N0
Profile Blog Joined October 2016
154 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-08 16:41:46
December 08 2016 15:02 GMT
#2
There's a lot of + Show Spoiler [Ra in the Protoss] +
like the fact that he had a warp gate too



not to mention interceptors and + Show Spoiler [pyramid-like structures] +



slow, epic soundtracks, distorted voice and no problem with blowing up an entire planet. But mainly the history of Ra, as deciphered by Daniel Jackson, has the mineral he's mining, which all of his technology is based on, play a central role. + Show Spoiler [Plus] +
Obviously Tassadar's noble death is the exact oposite of Ra's:
yet looks pretty similar

And in return there's a lot of Starcraft in SG-1.
Signups for [T]Define [b][blue][N#][/blue][/b]ormal Code Mafia now open!
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
December 09 2016 00:11 GMT
#3
I definitely enjoy that sort of trope in SciFi though, since I find it's a good warning to what may happen if we ignore their example. Was Babylon-5 the first series with this idea? I don't keep up with a lot of SciFi.
kiss kiss fall in love
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
December 09 2016 08:09 GMT
#4
Thanks N0! That's a good point that I had overlooked.

IntoTheHeart: Which trope do you mean?
N0
Profile Blog Joined October 2016
154 Posts
December 09 2016 11:24 GMT
#5
      Yeah, it's amazing how many similarities there are between Stargate the movie, Stargate the TV series franchise and the Starcraft franchise. You could make a point of DTs having originated from + Show Spoiler [ this scene] +


Either those soldiers, pretty damn similar to the starcraft variety in demeanor btw., were pretty damn high to warrant such hideous display of combat, or the + Show Spoiler [Anubis-head DT] +
[image loading]
guy was partially or completely cloaked, and the producers just lacked or weren't happy with the cgi.

      I thought SG-1 came out later but the first season actually ended before the release date of starcraft vanilla, and the second season premiered before the release of broodwar. So the question is which came first.. the Arbiter or + Show Spoiler [the Nox] +

, + Show Spoiler [Garshaw] +
Garshaw of Belote x Yosuuf
[image loading]
is a Grand Councillor of the Tok'ra, and known as the 'most hunted Goa'uld of all time. The System Lords have a similar animosity towards the Tok'ra to that of the Conclave towards the Dark Templar.
and + Show Spoiler [Nirrti] +
[image loading]
who first appears in 1997, but only later is revealed to have developed the + Show Spoiler [Reetou] +
[image loading]
cloaking technology, when trying to frame Teal'c for an attempted assassination, in 1999
or the Matriarch, Raynor + Kerrigan or + Show Spoiler [Jackson x Sha'uri] +
[image loading]
I see an obvious similarity between her and infested Kerrigan from the broodwar loading screen
[image loading]
She gets abducted and infested by the Goa'uld in the pilot episode of SG-1. It's a stretch but you can equate Kerrigan's psychic ability to that of Sha'uri's ability to read the symbols, in terms of rarity.
, the badassery of a Cattlebruiser or an + Show Spoiler [Asgard Morthership] +


.


Airdate: 29th of August 1997
      


Signups for [T]Define [b][blue][N#][/blue][/b]ormal Code Mafia now open!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
December 10 2016 00:11 GMT
#6
Oh so that's probably where the Protoss took their Egyptian-esque look. Also, the sound effects are so StarCraft lol.

The last video clip are unmistakably the inspiration for khaydarin crystals.

Also, the design and fell of the Protoss may have also had an influence on Halo's Sangheili race.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
17:00
S2: Europe Server Qualifier
CranKy Ducklings546
iHatsuTV 15
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .229
BRAT_OK 142
ProTech92
Rex 73
MindelVK 43
Stormgate
UpATreeSC172
TKL 161
Dota 2
Dendi1943
420jenkins484
Counter-Strike
fl0m1878
pashabiceps973
Foxcn170
Super Smash Bros
PPMD59
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu175
Other Games
Grubby1763
B2W.Neo688
ceh9588
Beastyqt483
C9.Mang0194
XaKoH 188
ArmadaUGS161
Trikslyr54
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta22
• Reevou 2
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 13
• HerbMon 9
• Pr0nogo 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• Nemesis3978
League of Legends
• Jankos1503
• TFBlade899
Counter-Strike
• Shiphtur298
Other Games
• imaqtpie1652
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
5h 3m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
16h 3m
The PondCast
1d 15h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Online Event
3 days
SC Evo League
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
CSO Contender
3 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
SC Evo League
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
5 days
RotterdaM Event
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

StarCon 2025 Philadelphia
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.