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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 13 2015 21:56 GMT
#1
Some people always tell me how amazing life I have and how they are jealous of it (mostly those who know it only superficially). I have an awesome wife and usually manage to spend 2-3 months a year abroad, both leisurely and "business" (meaning paid by the taxpayer). I get a reasonable income while not having to really do much, most importantly I don't have to sit somewhere every day 9-5 and get my soul eaten up, I have freedom and lots of time. I have some great hobbies and passions (SC2 included) and some friends that I meet from time to time and that travell sometimes with me and we have a blast. Materially I have absolutely everything I could wish for (even though many of you from the richer countries would consider me poor when confronted with the actual numbers), I am reasonably healthy (not the best, had some multi-weeks episodes of unease this year which turned out to be likely due to allergy, but I have it under control and got thoroughly check for other stuff in the process)

So how come I am not fucking happy? I am running out of ideas what to do differently. There used to be times when I longed for something and got sad because of that, but years ago I realized that this is easily solved by just getting up and doing whatever it takes to get it. I am not really longing for anything besides maybe having more close friends and more stuff to do with other people - but that's the hardest thing to manipulate and I am aware of that (everything that's not other people can be just bought by money and money I have) and I have somehow come to terms with that. But still, I am not happy.

I spend a lot of time just sitting behind my computer and reading nonsense online (TL included). It's a bad habit that I should probably try to break, but for what? Before I had internet, I would just sit at home and watch a wall, this is at least marginally better. The reason is that I just don't know what else to do a lot of the time - or that I should be working, so I should not go out, but I end up not working anyway, because I am too lazy, so I just read the shit online (because any working would happen on the computer anyway). I regret this "wasted" time, as my time on Earth is surely limited, but I don't really have the stamina to keep doing something interresting all the time, as anything to do requires some organisation, thinking, managing ... overall the things I hate to do. And I can never seem to find people who would just hang with me, or take me to do something, so everything I ever want to do usually needs to be form my intiative and that's just exhausting - and the most demanding part is coming up with ideas what exactly should I do.

Yeah, there's probably the root cause of many of my problems in life: I never really knew what exactly do I want. Many people have their lifes so planned out, it's unbelievable for me. I am pretty sure about things I do not want and I can avoid them, but that's about it. Add to this the fact that I don't really fit in a company easily, am not the easiest person to come along with and am pretty picky about people I want to spend time with and there is the recipe for unhappiness.

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Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
July 13 2015 22:30 GMT
#2
you should try dedicating 2 hours a day to reading, alone and away from the world. it's like hitting the gym, except it stretches your brain instead of your body. try to read aloud too, maybe find a retirement home and read books aloud to them? reading really helps though, trust me!
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
July 13 2015 22:54 GMT
#3
Find new hobbies, especially if they can be social.

failing that, see a therapist??
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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 13 2015 22:59 GMT
#4
You could try getting second job doing something you're more passionate about, since you have the time. Getting reasonable income while not having to really do much sounds doesn't sound like very fulfilling work to me.

Or you could try doing drugs. That seems to work for a lot of people too.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
July 13 2015 23:03 GMT
#5
Ever considered taking up a new hobby relating to your interests? Or perhaps volunteering for a good cause or contributing to a non-profit would be productive and fulfilling. If those and alternatives aren't working, might want to look into a therapist.
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lohdon
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
170 Posts
July 13 2015 23:06 GMT
#6
I can relate to your problems. I have felt like that many times and most certainly I will feel like this again some time in the future. You can't feel happy all the time, it's not an everlasting state of mind. However you can develop strategies to deal with unhappiness. Break your usual patterns. You already seem to have figured out some parts of the puzzle. You want to have more close friends to hang out with so try to be more open minded about other people. Try to open up more, I think a lot of people can relate to the feeling of craving something more. Your notion that "many people have their lives planned out" is just a superficial observation just like the people telling you that your life is amazing and that they're jealous. Try to find activities that you can do instead of staring into the web that allow you to meet new people but don't require you to motivate others all the time. For me it was things like going to the climbing gym, learning an instrument, going to concerts. Most importantly confront your emotions don't just numb them by distracting yourself. Allow yourself to feel pain so that you know the difference between content and indifference. You can't find happiness by constantly looking for it.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 13 2015 23:07 GMT
#7
I feel you. I think some people are just this way. I can only talk about me, but I know I have a hard time being at peace with myself. My personal take on it is to just be happy with what you do, just reflect on what you have and just enjoy being alive. But yeah, this is probably the hardest part in life for some of us.
MasterShake1
Profile Joined May 2015
17 Posts
July 13 2015 23:55 GMT
#8
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I just made this quickly.

Happiness is needs. Needs of course are things you can not live without. Such as food, shelter, love, family. If these are being met, you will find happiness no matter what your life is like.

If you're needs aren't met, your feelings scale from needs to something else, such as shown in the picture. If you feel confused, you're lacking a need. If you feel like your needs are being met but are still unhappy, your priorities are mixed up.

i.e. I have lots of money, and I have all my needs being met; why am I sad? Am I living for money? Or living for my needs? If I rearrange my priorities to needs>money, then I shall find happiness. Where if, I have money>needs, money is driving your needs and you feel something else, such as confusion or sadness.

I used money in my example because it's a very popular factor in a lot of unhappiness. Even rich people who have everything including their needs being met, don't prioritize, or have money driving their needs, when it should be vice versa. Instead of money, you can say employment, or relationship/friendship, or sex, etc. Every example works the same way.

A lot of people don't realize they are angry, because their perspective of anger is surface anger. When your needs aren't met, this leads to different feelings than happiness, and eventually manifests into anger, sometimes without you even realizing it. Just because you aren't visibly angry doesn't mean deep down you are happy; typically this just means you have self-control.
i.e. a lot of depressed people are angry. This will lead to a failure of prioritizing, and why people stay depressed, because they have anger driving their needs.

Some peoples and cultures believe that anything more than what you need is greed, and these cultures believe greed to be a mental illness. There is a difference from living a satisfying life via monetary gains/possessions and greed. It's important for you to decide where to draw the line.

Specifically for you, you may not be getting a basic need met and as a result you feel confusion or "I don't know what I want". If you're happy, what you want will come to you as you move through life. Being content is different, but some people are truly happy being content. From reading what you've said, you seem content, but are unhappy with this. I would recommend self-reflecting and writing down your own needs and seeing if you are actually meeting them. You can't build a structure without first having a strong foundation.

I believe you are angry, and the by-product is confusion/sadness. You just haven't realized it, and once you start thinking about your needs, you may discover what is causing your anger, and then you can start working backwards from your anger, and eventually finding happiness. I don't really know you, and I am judging you basically on what you've written, so take that with a hunk of salt.

An interesting and well done documentary you may want to watch is "I am" directed by Tom Shadyac (he is famous for ace ventura, Nutty Professor) - I believe it's on Netflix. He had everything he ever wanted, but after a serious bicycle accident, he became extremely depressed, so he decided to figure out why. Eventually he finds out that the less he has the happier he becomes;this coincides with my point that the more you work on getting your basic needs met, the happier you will become. It's also about a few other things, and I definitely think you would benefit from watching it.

Good luck, man. Currently in my life I am talking to a psychiatrist and taking anger management, so I thought I would provide some insight on the new tools and perspectives I've been taught. At the very least, you'll be more conscious of yourself, and may discover a type of anger you didn't understand.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-14 01:12:06
July 14 2015 01:10 GMT
#9
I am happy.

I'm not currently talking to a psychiatrist (never have, and never will ever since they advocated releasing your anger a long time ago, which I knew was bullshit as a child). I think the post above me misses the point. I do not doubt your/his sincerity in trying to help, but you seem to be repeating what is said to you without a good understanding because you have anger problems yourself.

Happiness is not needs but a mindset, so is anger. Happiness is when you don't have any more needs/unfufilled expectations - wanting more or less is a mindset,

Think about how a boy can be the happiest boy in the world if you buy him a new Samsung phone because he has never seen a phone before while another boy might be angry you didn't buy him the latest Apple instead. Expectations.

Think about how some situations can make you angry while it doesn't affect others or vice versa. Our grandparents might not mind waiting for 10 secs for a page to load but some people from our generation is might get really angry. Expectations.

On July 14 2015 08:06 lohdon wrote:You can't find happiness by constantly looking for it.


This guy is giving good advice, I like it.



Be happy with what you already have, you already do have things well, and you don't have to lie to yourself about it at all since you know it's true.

feel free to pm me if you'd like.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16699 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-14 02:42:58
July 14 2015 02:41 GMT
#10
"being happy is the hardest thing you will ever do", Nathaniel Branden.
"we human beings are strange. if you gave a human being the choice between being `right` and being happy. Most human beings would rather be `right` ", Nathaniel Branden.

something the women in my life have taught me that is a valuable tool for creating happiness....journal-ing.

create a daily journal for little personal notes. journal for a few moments before u go to bed each night... or take an hour or two if you need it.
when journaling take on this perspective : "what is good in my life" , " what in my life needs work"

as you journal... i recommend working through a book called "How To Raise Your Self Esteem" by the late Nathaniel Branden... its not an easy book to work through... but being happy is a tough task.
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EarthwormJim
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada94 Posts
July 14 2015 03:09 GMT
#11
On July 14 2015 10:10 JieXian wrote:
I am happy.

I'm not currently talking to a psychiatrist (never have, and never will ever since they advocated releasing your anger a long time ago, which I knew was bullshit as a child). I think the post above me misses the point. I do not doubt your/his sincerity in trying to help, but you seem to be repeating what is said to you without a good understanding because you have anger problems yourself.

Happiness is not needs but a mindset, so is anger. Happiness is when you don't have any more needs/unfufilled expectations - wanting more or less is a mindset,

Think about how a boy can be the happiest boy in the world if you buy him a new Samsung phone because he has never seen a phone before while another boy might be angry you didn't buy him the latest Apple instead. Expectations.

Think about how some situations can make you angry while it doesn't affect others or vice versa. Our grandparents might not mind waiting for 10 secs for a page to load but some people from our generation is might get really angry. Expectations.

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On July 14 2015 08:06 lohdon wrote:You can't find happiness by constantly looking for it.


This guy is giving good advice, I like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU

Be happy with what you already have, you already do have things well, and you don't have to lie to yourself about it at all since you know it's true.

feel free to pm me if you'd like.

Instead of talking about what I said - maybe offer some insight to the OP. Otherwise you're just derailing his thread.

If anything you are angry and you seem extremely frustrated. Maybe change your "mindset" and you'll be happier. Lol...

And to all the rest of the things you said... 0.0 wat?? You have some funny logic my friend.
Groovy
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-14 04:32:02
July 14 2015 03:19 GMT
#12
What does "not happy" mean? Are you sad or are you apathetic?

Also please reread your post and note what you do not mention.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2269 Posts
July 14 2015 03:55 GMT
#13
Epicurus, he may help...

best of luck mate.
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16699 Posts
July 14 2015 04:44 GMT
#14
On July 14 2015 06:56 opisska wrote:
I spend a lot of time just sitting behind my computer and reading nonsense online (TL included). It's a bad habit that I should probably try to break, but for what?

unless u r a GM player discussing strats to move up to become a paid pro TL.Net time should be regarded as pure entertainment time... if u're on here to get something serious accomplished that does not involve pro level game playing you're in the wrong place...

Blizzard employees being the exception.. .they are getting something serious accomplished on here.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
July 14 2015 05:59 GMT
#15
On July 14 2015 07:54 QuanticHawk wrote:
Find new hobbies, especially if they can be social.

failing that, see a therapist??

Solid advice. Seeing a therapist can often solve a lot of the issues just by vocalizing them - which allows you to really come to conclusions you wouldn't normally think of just in your head. I always suggest changing up hobbies and getting more social, but you may need to do the opposite and take an interest of yours and turn it into a small money maker/allow something to take up more of your time. Being overly busy isn't good, but having too much time on your hands normally allows the mind to wander and overthink life. Thinking about your life is all good, but overthinking it normally makes people quite sad and even sometimes apathetic since they feel something is missing.
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ankurra
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany46 Posts
July 14 2015 06:38 GMT
#16
Listen to your breath, not to your mind.

You may one day realize, that happiness is not something permanent. In fact, the more you look for it, the more you LONG for it - the unhappier you must be.
I know this might sound shallow or esoteric, but it contains a truth, valid for any mortal with a capacity for reason.
Don't let your mind troll you. You are not your thoughts. You are not your Ego.

Also: Sports is a great way to find more satisfaction in life. Calm your body, and the mind will follow.
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2497 Posts
July 14 2015 06:47 GMT
#17
There used to be times when I longed for something and got sad because of that

Yeah, there's probably the root cause of many of my problems in life
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-14 07:19:25
July 14 2015 06:48 GMT
#18
On July 14 2015 12:09 EarthwormJim wrote:
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On July 14 2015 10:10 JieXian wrote:
I am happy.

I'm not currently talking to a psychiatrist (never have, and never will ever since they advocated releasing your anger a long time ago, which I knew was bullshit as a child). I think the post above me misses the point. I do not doubt your/his sincerity in trying to help, but you seem to be repeating what is said to you without a good understanding because you have anger problems yourself.

Happiness is not needs but a mindset, so is anger. Happiness is when you don't have any more needs/unfufilled expectations - wanting more or less is a mindset,

Think about how a boy can be the happiest boy in the world if you buy him a new Samsung phone because he has never seen a phone before while another boy might be angry you didn't buy him the latest Apple instead. Expectations.

Think about how some situations can make you angry while it doesn't affect others or vice versa. Our grandparents might not mind waiting for 10 secs for a page to load but some people from our generation is might get really angry. Expectations.

On July 14 2015 08:06 lohdon wrote:You can't find happiness by constantly looking for it.


This guy is giving good advice, I like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU

Be happy with what you already have, you already do have things well, and you don't have to lie to yourself about it at all since you know it's true.

feel free to pm me if you'd like.

Instead of talking about what I said - maybe offer some insight to the OP. Otherwise you're just derailing his thread.

If anything you are angry and you seem extremely frustrated. Maybe change your "mindset" and you'll be happier. Lol...

And to all the rest of the things you said... 0.0 wat?? You have some funny logic my friend.


??? I think you're just unfamiliar with this way of thinking. I am from Asia after all and I'm naturally, heavily influenced by our philosophy.

I think a lot of what I have heard (I admit I'm not 100% up to date) with western psychiatry is ineffective and wrong. I guess you think the disagreement makes me angry and frustrated, in which case it was a wrong reading.

When everyone in the car was cursing because of a near miss accident my friend was in awe "you still managed to maintain your composure" he said.

So as someone who was trying to help a fellow TLer I have way no reason to get angry. The last time I got angry was in Feburary where somebody's negligence has almost killed the plumber that was fixing something in my house, so yea that was hard to get over because I should be responsible for his well being, since as a foreigner he'd be in serious trouble once he gets hurt. I can't remember of a time prior to that.

And I'm not even talking about "Changing" a mindset but "Learning". All the learning has made me much calmer and happier.

of course if a psychiatrist improves things for you, by all means please do so.

Edit: oh wait I just realised
Instead of talking about what I said -


You were the person whom I disagreed with. As I said, I have nothing against you and I do not doubt your sincerity or your intelligence of anything.

I was merely pointing out how your advice was ineffective and missing the point imo, and is counterproductive for the OP.

PS: I admit I do attack people in other threads but I'm usually joking sarcastially but yea I ideally shouldn't attack them at all


On July 14 2015 15:47 pebble444 wrote:
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There used to be times when I longed for something and got sad because of that

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Yeah, there's probably the root cause of many of my problems in life


exactly
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
July 14 2015 06:56 GMT
#19
Having freedom and lots of time is not happiness. I had a really good dose of freedom and time last week (class cancellations due storms) but I felt as bored as fuck. When you're doing something with your time and freedom, I think that's when you'll be happy. You should occupy yourself more.

What catches me though is that you say you have hobbies/passions and yet you spend most of your time on the net. Are your hobbies related to the net somehow?
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 14 2015 07:10 GMT
#20
On July 14 2015 15:56 c3rberUs wrote:
Having freedom and lots of time is not happiness. I had a really good dose of freedom and time last week (class cancellations due storms) but I felt as bored as fuck. When you're doing something with your time and freedom, I think that's when you'll be happy. You should occupy yourself more.

What catches me though is that you say you have hobbies/passions and yet you spend most of your time on the net. Are your hobbies related to the net somehow?


quite naturally we are all from TL
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hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
July 14 2015 07:21 GMT
#21
It's obvious what's missing from the OP's life but most of the readers here are too young to see.
Op has a wife and is materially fine. So op just needs a child.
Opisska, you just need a child, mate. I was in the exact same position you're describing before my daughter was conceived. I was fooling around with my then to be wife, traveling places, having money to spend (I still am fine with finance, that's not the point). But still I wasn't quite happy, like a piece was missing. I never thought the piece was a child. But when she was born that night on 23 Nov 2009 and I saw her on the morning after, so pink and gentle, defenseless yet all - powerful and ruling as far as I was concerned, it all became clear. She was perfect, she made my life have a real goal, to make her happy, to see her grow up, to support and weep for her, to keep her from harm when possible.
I really think you need a child too.
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 14 2015 08:37 GMT
#22
Thanks guys, that was some nice reading and food for thoughts. I don't think my life can be solved in a TL blog and that was not really the goal of it - I always feel a little bit sorry when I write something that I just have on my mind and people start giving me solid, well thought opinions - oh my, they invested they time and effort just because I felt like telling someone how I feel. That'something awesome.

I don't think the solution is anything along the lines of "work more". You may thing otherwise, but you just don't know me. I should have made that more clear, but in genral doing anything that requires some effort for a longer time has been always a problem for me. People who are able to just go to work 40 hours a week and focusedly do something, whatever that something is, have my deepest admiration, as I could never do that, I find it really physcially impossible. I am not denying that this is a big bart of the picture - I could probably be happier doing something fulfilling, however I don't have the power to do that, because it's too demanding. And these are not excuses, I have been trying and fighting the laziness for all my life and what I get now is the current battle line of twenty years struggle, I can't magically move it forward, the trenches are full and guarded.

I am very sceptical of therapists. It may sound self-centered and delusional, but my mind is pretty different from other people, moreover I am really bad at formulating my inner thoughts, I just don't see it very likely someone would really understand me (I actually used to see a therapist many years ago, when I was like 18, but it was not really worth it).

In general, I see it quite unlikely that I can just magically talk my way out of everything, that someone has the magic pill waitnig for me. Some responses have suggested things that can be boiled down to "be alone with yourself". That's something I started to really experience more in the last years when I started to watch birds intensely. Sometimes, I go with my wife or even with friends (most of them are not very into it though) and there is in general the social aspect of the "competitive birding" (I promise I make the next blog about that, TL is gonna love the concept), but a lot of time I just spend alone in the nature. This has proven to be a double-edged sword - I really like being out there with the living things, however these are exactly the moments when my mind has all the time in the world to wander and to start judging my life. And I pragmatically know that my life is pretty good, yet it doesn't really help.

The child thing, though, that's a scary thought. The scariest thing about it is that it may be the right one, but a child is something that requires constant work, attention, schedule, 24/7 ... exactly the things I suck the most at - as it is now, my sucking just makes me sad, but putting a life of a human being on line? An interesting side thought, though - my wife does not want children either (she is the one who would be always strongly against it, I sometimes tease her with contemplating having children and she becomes furious) and she is not very happy either, we are actually shockingly similar in much of what I have said here (however one might say that here problems are more "real" as she is seing a psychiatrist, taking anti-depressants and stuff).

Whatever, this short reply has become another wall of text about myself, a person you don't know and shouldn't really give a shit about, but since writing it down makes it easier for me to think about it and you basically ask for it by responding in such a provking manner, here you have it.

Peace.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
July 14 2015 09:29 GMT
#23
On July 14 2015 16:10 JieXian wrote:
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On July 14 2015 15:56 c3rberUs wrote:
Having freedom and lots of time is not happiness. I had a really good dose of freedom and time last week (class cancellations due storms) but I felt as bored as fuck. When you're doing something with your time and freedom, I think that's when you'll be happy. You should occupy yourself more.

What catches me though is that you say you have hobbies/passions and yet you spend most of your time on the net. Are your hobbies related to the net somehow?


quite naturally we are all from TL

I was thinking he had some other hobbies. Like I don't know... playing chess or whatever. But yes, that part is quite natural. haha
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
July 14 2015 09:33 GMT
#24
Just some thoughts if mine.

I am in a similar position, I have mostly everything I could need materially, have an amazing girlfriend, healthy, a caring family, etc. I too however don't have many close friends, and I've tried before... And if I'm trying, I can meet some people, and build friendships. However, it's too exhausting for me to do, and I often go between doing my own thing, and focusing more on social aspects of life.

I think what's happening to you is good, because you at a relatively young age (I assume), have been able to learn what importance money plays. Yes, it makes you happy to an extent, but you also get to see what it can't do. My dad is much like this, but to a much greater extent. He has actually become like "we don't need cable", we don't need this and that, etc. It's all just distractions. I know this sounds really spiritual and whatever (I'm far from being religious), but you need to look inside yourself, and figure out for you, what life is about. Imo, it's not being on facebook being "social", being a part of a sports team, working up the corporate ladder, etc. To be "happy" (I don't think this is the right word to use, nobody can always be happy, just satisfied with what they're doing, or like someone else in this thread put, doing the right thing), you need to figure out what you believe your purpose is.

This requires looking at things philosophically, my dad has started reading astrology books, chinese medicine books, and other things that most people here would think are kind of crazy. But once you find a purpose, or a sense of belonging in whatever you want to do, you will find satisfaction... Even though you might not be happy with doing all the time.

For example, if your philosophy is that life happened by accident, and there is absolutely no purpose or meaning in what we do... Nothing matters, so who cares what I do, I'll just do what's easiest. And I think that's why such a large portion of society doing stuff like you for example. That's why religion was/is such a powerful tool, because if you believe that your purpose is to make your god(s) happy, you have a clear direction of what the purpose of your life is, and how well you are fulfilling it.

It all depends on your philosophy, hence why I'm being so broad, instead of giving you specific advice. For example, maybe you believe that starting new life, and sharing all your wisdom with them is all that matters, then then having a child may be a good option, which would also involve you working hard and making a lot of money to make their life as good as possible. Maybe you want to have a legacy, maybe you want to be the best in the world as something, maybe you want to be famous, maybe you believe the way to live life is to use the smallest effort possible while having your necessities met, maybe it's to learn about the world (whether that's science, animals, history, astrology, consciousness, etc), help others, and so on.

So to sum it up, you must figure out what YOU believe matters in this world, doesn't matter what anyone says. And that's what you should do. That's why they tell you it doesn't matter what you do, so long as you enjoy it. That's why a person gains more satisfaction of putting up with a lot of bullshit from their partners, the time, the money, all the lost opportunity... To hear I love you, and to know they matter - It's obviously not to get laid.

Knowing you are living your life right is what will make you happy. Figure that out.
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LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2013 Posts
July 14 2015 09:44 GMT
#25
I'm going to woods for a hike today in order to regain balance.
Let me tell you if it worked afterwards.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 14 2015 10:20 GMT
#26
I think you need to describe what you mean by "happy". But even so, as someone else said, you don't find happiness by searching for it. You also need to stop judging your life tbh, as by doing so you will only think of what you don't have or do in your life, while what you live on a day-to-day basis is what you have or do. Also, some questions :
-Do you do sports?
-Do you meditate?
-Do you drink (with friends, ofc)?
-Do you play music?
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 14 2015 11:37 GMT
#27
FiWiFaKi: nice post. Yes, I am a relatively convinced atheist - I am certianly unsellable on any "religion with a story", I think these things are pretty absurd. I don't really feel the need to have a greater goal though, it seems to me a little silly when people construct a structre that suddenly makes something in the world overly important, because hey, what if they are just wrong? If anything matters to me beyond my own well-being, it's that of the other people, but yeah, I am again too lazy to really work for a charity or something (call me a bad person if you wish), so at least I try not to harm anyone and I do some essentially free talking about science to people, because that's what I do well and people seem to enjoy that. But I fully agree that teveryone needs to figure it out for himself. The only difficutl thing is to manage to do it within one lifetime, I guess (and I am not that very young anymore, 33).

OW: I like to hike and trek, but that's not something I would do weekly (I live in a rather boring place for that). I play volleyball for many years once a week, becasue my friend organises it, occasionally a play beach volley, but it requires the effort to collect the players ... you know. I do not medidate, I am not even sure what that really means. I drink very rarely, only with friends (I have never ever drunk alcohol alone in my life). I don't play music, I can't hear harmony and am again lazy to put in consistent training (but really, I have one of the worst musical hearing abilities I have ever seen).

But all these things seem like just details, I am not really sure that any of this can really unroot the general feeling of dissatisfaction as long as I don't know where the feeling comes from.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11505 Posts
July 14 2015 12:32 GMT
#28
Even since you mentioned that you don't like therapists, i would highly suggest you to try it once again, even if you had a bad experience in your teens.

A lot of what you mention sounds (to me, with only a very basic background in psychology) like symptoms of a depression. Which is usually a pretty treatable disease, but a lot of people simply don't accept that it is actually a disease, because it just "makes you a bit sad and unhappy". Seeing a therapist is also not a sign of weakness, or anything along those lines. Neither will they give you the "magical pill" to figure your problems out. The job of a therapist is pretty much exactly what you tried to find in this thread, helping you find ways to figure your problem out and solve it, except that he is a professional who spends time to get to know your problem instead of a bunch of random dudes on the internet who try to diagnose you from half a page of text without any knowledge beyond what makes them happy.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 14 2015 12:58 GMT
#29
Maybe you are right, maybe not.I am not condescending towards the notion of a depression as a medical condtion, as I have mentioned, my wife suffers from it, sees professinals and takes anti-depressants. She is not very thrilled from the therapy itself, but the pills seem to have some effect. However this really is a medical conditions and the pills just help to establish a balance of neurotransmitters. Honestly, I would be almost glad to have clinical depression, because that is a realtively clear problem with relatively clear solutions (even though the pills don't work all the time and even the doctors are not very sure about the details). But from knowing some people with real depression (including my wife, with whom I have lived throug 13 years of it), I am not very inclined to think that I suffer from it.
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catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3829 Posts
July 14 2015 13:32 GMT
#30
HEY! I'm not the only birder on tl!! wish I could do more in europe, I've barely been

find other birders where you live! in the usa the birdwatching community is the friendliest, most welcoming group I've ever been acquainted with. in europe you get more of the crazy twitchers but the majority are still awesome people! there is much more to social birding than competitiveness (which isn't bad to begin with)
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 14 2015 13:47 GMT
#31
On July 14 2015 22:32 catplanetcatplanet wrote:
HEY! I'm not the only birder on tl!! wish I could do more in europe, I've barely been

find other birders where you live! in the usa the birdwatching community is the friendliest, most welcoming group I've ever been acquainted with. in europe you get more of the crazy twitchers but the majority are still awesome people! there is much more to social birding than competitiveness (which isn't bad to begin with)


HEY! I'm not the only birder on TL ))

I fully agree, there are some fine people in birding, unfortunately there are also some weird ones. The Czech community is not the most welcoming one, is full of "experts" and "professionals" who consider anyone else but them seeing birds an unnecesarry disruption of wildlife (alfter all, they have already seen the bird, so it's documented), so there is a lot of secretivness and whatnot. But I tend to ignore those or straight laugh at them and they can't take the nature from me (at least not outside natural reserves ...). The nice part is when a rarity occurs somewhere and you come there and meet the same old bunch of people from all over the country, have some friendly banter and such.

I wish I can do more of the U.S.! Been there twice on a work trip, the second one to San Diego (the actual destination was Ensenada in Mexico) was super great, I went to some lagoons at the seashore and saw Pelicans, Sandpipers, Avocets, Terns and much more, there is really a lot to see in the U.S. with the varied habitats, after all it is a pretty huge country!
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Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
July 14 2015 13:57 GMT
#32
I think you're a little too hard on yourself. Reading TL is not a bad habit compared to, let's say a Meth addiction. Everything is relative, it all comes down to your frame of mind in my opinion. Being a grown up with a job and a partner absolutely gets old. You sound like you're doing just fine but maybe stop focusing so much on yourself and look to your wife and/or others, maybe that will make you happy knowing you did something nice for them.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16699 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-14 15:56:01
July 14 2015 15:54 GMT
#33
1 thing about using the word "fucking" in the way you do.
i am not against swearing for any kind of religious reasons.

i am against using words that do not have a precise meaning. when u speak with words that have no precise meaning repeatedly... it hampers your ability to think clearly.

i've experimented myself with not swearing at all for 2 weeks... and then a month later trying swearing constantly and just letting my mind go. given those 2 extremes i'd choose to never swear.

precision speaking encourages precision thinking
imprecise, lazy speaking contributes to imprecise, lazy thinking
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pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2497 Posts
July 14 2015 17:13 GMT
#34
On July 14 2015 19:20 OtherWorld wrote:
-Do you do sports?
-Do you meditate?
-Do you drink (with friends, ofc)?
-Do you play music?


YES
YES
YES
YES

You picked all things that i do regulary. Why then am i so noob at BW?
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 14 2015 17:19 GMT
#35
On July 15 2015 02:13 pebble444 wrote:
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On July 14 2015 19:20 OtherWorld wrote:
-Do you do sports?
-Do you meditate?
-Do you drink (with friends, ofc)?
-Do you play music?


YES
YES
YES
YES

You picked all things that i do regulary. Why then am i so noob at BW?


That's easy - with all these activities, there is now way you have enough time to properly practice BW.

Come play SC2
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7887 Posts
November 14 2015 14:51 GMT
#36
Well the problem lies for me in the concept of happiness itself. Happiness is supposed to be a static state you reach when you have got stuff you wanted. A great wife, a great house, a car, holidays, a good job and then you are happy forever and then you die. That's all veeeery american, this mixture of materialism and utilitarianism, but I don't think we work that way.

I was in the same place than you, but it solved itself altogether the day I gave up on happiness. I don't believe anymore that life is about being happy. Creativity, movement, emotions, strong joys and strong sorrows, that makes an interesting life. The Mickey Mouse smile for ever and ever that society wants you to pursue is not that fulfilling, I believe.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
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