• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:04
CEST 08:04
KST 15:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 239ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion6BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion6Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon445.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) What is your PC setup in 2026 for SCBW/SC2 ? Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion
Tourneys
[ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6462 users

My FPL Round 1 Week 5 Recap + My own team

Blogs > The_Templar
Post a Reply
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
January 24 2015 04:38 GMT
#1
Disclaimer: This is an independent piece and has nothing to do with the official weekly TL Proleague recap. Everything in this recap relevant to players performing well or badly is referring exclusively to their expectations in FPL.

Player of the week: Nobody

(P)Zest lost twice, nobody won ace matches besides (P)Creator (who even has him?), who turned out to be legitimately good at PvP, and MarineKing, who lost to Journey, and nobody that won was way ahead of everyone else in terms of being on main teams. I cop out of a lot of these awards anyway. It'll be a thing soon.

Runners-up: (T)Dream, (T)MarineKing, (Z)Rogue

These players made a lot of people happy, but none of them were betted on much more than the other two, with all three being on between 366 and 401 main teams, so this has to be split three ways. Additionally, all of them got a fifth point. MarineKing got a TvP in the ace match after initially losing, Rogue cruised to a three game win streak, and Dream comfortably secured a win against the red-hot Leenock to earn an extra point for breaking a win streak.



Anti-player of the week: (P)Creator

Creator (87/332)* defeated Zest (265/57)*, which surprised quite a lot of people that had neglected to trade him from their anti-team after he stopped facing Zerg players. Then he followed up insult with injury as he improbably defeated Zest a second time in the ace match by playing a perfectly reasonable macro game; For reaching a three win streak, breaking Zest's three win streak, winning twice, and having his team win, Creator earned an impressive ten points this week, which made a lot of people irritated, a few devout fans (Lorning) ecstatic, and everyone else slightly amused.

*(100/10) would mean 100 people picked this player on their main team and 10 picked him on their anti team.

Runner-up: (Z)Solar (111/115)

Haha, Solar lost again. Even Flash recorded a win this week.

(Alternatively, put Life here since he is on 800 main teams and earned 0 points this week.)



Best team of the week: Cheren

[image loading]

It annoys me when a no-trade team wins "best team of the week" on week 5, so I'm just going to let you look at this guy's pretty farsighted picks.



Worst team of the week: repoduck

[image loading]

On the other hand, it delights me when a no-trade team wins this award, often because they could have completely avoided it. While MyuNgSiK is by comparison a fine anti-team pick, Creator should probably have been traded off eventually and Classic was a poor choice to begin with, and that's just the negative points. This guy also picked sKyHigh, Hurricane, aLive, and Symbol on his team to join his two ace players. These four players are... not the best idea to have all of because it's unlikely more than one or two of them will ever see regular play time. This is why trading is good, guys.



Best anti-team: Solar, Creator, and TANGTANG, trade Creator --> MyuNgSiK after week two, and trade MyuNgSiK --> Zest after week four (0 points)

Needless to say, nobody found this combination, which I believe to be the only possible way to have a flawless anti-team. This will probably be impossible after the coming week. There's also four of the same people as the last two weeks that managed -1.




Most idiotic anti-team: theunabletable

[image loading]

To be honest, I'm cycling through really bad anti-teams at this point to avoid talking about the same people over and over. This guy traded Maru --> INnoVation after week one, which sort of blew up in his face when INnoVation went on a huge win streak and Maru didn't. Cure and Creator are also very solid players on their teams, so picking both was, in hindsight, a poor idea. Honestly though, I don't think a lot of people really get how to pick anti-teams, even though this round was easy since TaeJa/Stork/Seed became a thing.



Best possible team (no trade):
$6 Bbyong 18
$5 Dark 17
$4 Cure 16
$4 YongHwa 14
$3 Leenock 11
$3 Hush 10

$5 SKT 15

$4 Stork -1
$1 TANGTANG -1
$8 Solar 1


Total: 100





My team:

[image loading]

Yes, I'm covering my team in this blog too, because obviously I'm egotistical . Also, it's funny to look at a team with a ridiculous number of trades like this one.

Recap of how my first five weeks have gone: + Show Spoiler +
My biggest mistakes initially were picking MarineKing as my captain and aLive to be my "extra" player. aLive was a two-point player that was unlikely to see play time and was slightly less unlikely to get a ton of points from his team. I was going to pick Dark and YongHwa (which would have made Bbyong my captain), but for some reason I changed my mind at the last second, a decision which has cost me at least 20 points.

My original team was aLive, Bbyong, Classic, Leenock, MarineKing, and Cure with Startale-Yoe, and my anti-team was Zest, Action, and Journey.

Week 1 trades: (T)aLive –> (T)Hack, (T)Bbyong –> (P)Zest, (P)Zest –> (P)Dear (+14)

Hack had appeared in the week 2 lineup, and I was hoping to get something done with two points that I quickly realized were pretty dead. Also, since Zest was playing someone besides Maru, I hastened to get him off my anti-team, putting a suspiciously absent Dear on instead, and traded him onto my main team instead. This initially did not work out as Zest only earned two points in week two, but he soon won two ace matches and made me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

Week 2 trades: (P)Classic –> (P)San, (T)Hack –> (Z)TerrOr, (P)Dear –> (Z)Life (-6)

In retrospect, I shouldn't have spent so much time on my two point investment, especially as I was unlikely to get traction out of it. However, I was pretty sure TerrOr would win, so I went for it, and sure enough I was right. Classic –> San was a profitable investment at first, but Classic won later matches and San didn't so it pretty much evened out. Dear –> Life on my anti-team was easily the most risky, but I figured Dear was returning to form and Life wasn't. I was sort of right, but Life won lots of games over the next two weeks to leave me shaking my head.

Week 3 trades: (Z)Leenock –> (T)TY, (P)San –> (T)Flash, (Z)Life –> (Z)Rogue (0)

I seriously regret these main team trades. By making these trades, I was trading two Startale players for two KT players, even though Startale was my main team and both Leenock and San were playing.

Leenock took a map and ST-Yoe won. Both TY and Flash lost (although I'm not disappointed with Guilty winning!), although KT managed to pull out a double Zest win. I was extremely fortunate to trade away Life from my anti-team as he won twice as well. (Although this trade was pretty obvious)

Week 4 trades: (T)Cure –> (P)Dear, (T)TY –> (T)Dream, (T)Journey –> (P)Believe (+3)

The TY trade was obvious and it paid off. Cure –> Dear was based upon the expectations that Cure wouldn't win another time and that Dear would redeem himself (neither happened). Anyway, Dear had an easy opponent in Center... and then MarineKing beat him in the ace match. My players can never play nice, can they?

My anti-team offered an interesting choice. I had a feeling that Journey would defeat MarineKing, but Rogue was a much scarier player. On the other hand, his opponent was herO, who had been looking moderately in-shape when it came to PvZ. In the end, it didn't really matter since both Journey and Rogue won. -_-


Week 5 trades: ?

My main team players are facing the following people.

Dear: Dark
Dream: Not playing
Flash: herO
MarineKing: Life
TerrOr: Not playing
Zest: sKyHigh

This is... moderately grim, to say the least. First of all, I must keep Zest because he is facing the weakest opponent, and MarineKing as he is my captain. I will also keep Dear since Dark's specialty is ZvT, and Dear did manage to beat Life a few weeks ago. This means that I'll be trading Flash and Dream from my main team.

(T)Dream –> (P)Classic

I have a very good chance of earning points here. SKT will almost certainly not win 3-0, as they are fielding (T)Sorry (sorry, Sorry), and Classic just beat Life, so he should be able to beat Shine, especially since Classic is an exceptionally good cannon rusher and Zest beat Shine after taking a lead through a cannon rush recently. As a bonus, SKT could possibly maybe even field Classic in the ace match, although, if INnoVation wins, it's probably stupid to not send him in that situation.

This leaves me with a difficult choice. Who do I trade Flash with? My best options are likely Curious, who faces Losira, YoDa, who is playing a TvT against Cure, or BrAvO, who is likely to beat up on Sorry.
I actually can't believe that I'm considering Flash –> BrAvO as a legitimate FPL trade.

...

#yolo

(T)Flash –> (T)BrAvO

It will be hilarious if Sorry wins anyway, the exact reason I traded for TY when he played against Guilty.

Turning to my anti-team, I have Action, Believe, and Rogue. Clearly I must trade Rogue for one of the following players.

YongHwa: Not playing; however, Choya.
Cure: TvT against YoDa, could go either way.
ByuL: Plays against TY, who lost to Guilty.
Dark: Plays against Dear.

It's definitely safest to trade for Choya YongHwa, so I will do so.

(Z)Rogue –> (P)YongHwa

Hopefully this doesn't horribly backfire.

*****
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
January 24 2015 04:59 GMT
#2
Having roguejwa or yonghwajwa on anti is dumb
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
January 24 2015 05:05 GMT
#3
On January 24 2015 13:59 Cricketer12 wrote:
Having roguejwa or yonghwajwa on anti is dumb

Zest --> Dear --> Life --> Rogue --> YongHwa is a pretty good progression in terms of anti-teams. Soon, I will have three B-teamers on my anti.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 06:20:51
January 24 2015 06:19 GMT
#4
fun read as always. 1 quick question you have any Idea how many total teams there are?

also I'm about ready to write a eulogy for my fpl team. especially since hack has been mia and San has well, yeah. also why in the name of god is Solar my captain? (because I'm a moron and just went with the highest rank guy for reasons I don't understand)


[image loading]
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
January 24 2015 06:20 GMT
#5
On January 24 2015 15:19 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
fun read as always. 1 quick question you have any Idea how many total teams there are?

also I'm about ready to write a eulogy for my fpl team.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

2610. http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Standings.php?r=22&p=27

So you're actually only slightly below the middle of the pack. Nice Solar captain though
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 06:27:19
January 24 2015 06:22 GMT
#6
On January 24 2015 15:20 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 15:19 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
fun read as always. 1 quick question you have any Idea how many total teams there are?

also I'm about ready to write a eulogy for my fpl team.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

2610. http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Standings.php?r=22&p=27

So you're actually only slightly below the middle of the pack. Nice Solar captain though



I think I made my team at like 8 or 9 at night and didn't read the rules very well since I've never done this before and just went with the highest rank guy I bought. really should have gone with Cure. and now I can't trade san since I need a protoss on my team and the options aren't good. oh well least I had what I thought was the best name so thats something

also If I could magically swap Solar and Dark I'd be in great shape with 68 points and be on the first page. xD
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 07:25:21
January 24 2015 07:22 GMT
#7
I'd be in a fairly good position except that I forgot that Creator was on my anti-team... Ah well. Nice recap. Seeing your team really gives me the feeling I should trade more.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
January 24 2015 08:08 GMT
#8
Trading is for the weak, just gotta have FAITH
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-24 10:59:19
January 24 2015 10:58 GMT
#9
Hmmm, I considered the Flash --> BravO trade, but it seems unlikely that it will pay off in the long run. I expect both KT and Samsung to lose their matches with KT having considerably better odds at pulling an upset. BravO has better odds at winning his game, but he has no ace potential nor does he get played every match.

Plus Samsung will be playing their last match versus Jin Air next week and KT versus StY, the odds lie in favor of Flash there. Curious to see how this pans out.
I think esports is pretty nice.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
January 24 2015 14:18 GMT
#10
On January 24 2015 19:58 Saechiis wrote:
Hmmm, I considered the Flash --> BravO trade, but it seems unlikely that it will pay off in the long run. I expect both KT and Samsung to lose their matches with KT having considerably better odds at pulling an upset. BravO has better odds at winning his game, but he has no ace potential nor does he get played every match.

Plus Samsung will be playing their last match versus Jin Air next week and KT versus StY, the odds lie in favor of Flash there. Curious to see how this pans out.

This would be true if we were about to start week 3 or 4 instead of week 6. Since there are only two weeks left, I would rather get a player that is almost guaranteed to win this week, and if he doesn't get fielded next week, there is likely another trade I can make (Not entirely sure how trade values work, but BrAvO's might be higher than Flash's next week). The goal is to focus on getting points now instead of having a strong, reliable team.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
January 24 2015 16:47 GMT
#11
CREATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
January 24 2015 18:25 GMT
#12
I like to think I'm a rebel because my anti is not Taeja/Stork/Seed but instead Taeja/Stork/(skyhigh->Hush->Bomber)

Also FLASH PLZ. I traded Cure for you in week 3, but he's STILL doing better than you
I'm not sure I can bring myself to trade him away...can get Skyhigh (v Zest? NOPE), Myungsik (v Rogue? nope), Curious (v Losira, who I own already), Yoda (v Cure? not sure, Cure maybe slightly favored), TY (v Byul; owned TY first 4 weeks and he did NOTHING, I'm done with this guy), Bravo (v Sorry; probably best odds here). Trading away someone with Flash's pedigree for Bravo just makes me sick to my stomach though...maybe I'll hope Flash gets a better matchup the last week vs ST-Y...
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
January 24 2015 20:58 GMT
#13
haven't been playing and im still head of templar, huehuehuehuehue
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
January 25 2015 07:07 GMT
#14
Yeah Creator screwed me too, and i have zest on team
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 56m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 234
FoxeR 102
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 4972
GuemChi 3668
Leta 452
Sacsri 41
Bale 32
ZergMaN 15
IntoTheRainbow 11
Icarus 9
League of Legends
JimRising 917
Counter-Strike
summit1g9744
Other Games
m0e_tv522
WinterStarcraft480
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 124
• practicex 30
• OhrlRock 2
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota278
League of Legends
• Rush1366
• Lourlo1240
• Stunt495
• HappyZerGling120
Upcoming Events
GSL
4h 56m
Monday Night Weeklies
9h 56m
Replay Cast
17h 56m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 4h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.