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The Curious Case of the Purloined Chakram

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SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4014 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-23 21:45:22
December 23 2014 01:11 GMT
#1
I play Rubick more than any other hero and I seem to encounter more bugs and odd behaviours with Chakram than with most other spells. I'm mostly posting this blog because I'm curious about the kinds of issues other players have found with spell interaction or if anyone knows any way to avoid these :D

Before anything else, please excuse my potato screenshots, I play Dota on a laptop most of the time.



First, despite the fact that I see people constantly telling me the opposite, it's possible to steal both Chakrams as Rubick:

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Fig. 1: We may have lost the base, but I have two Chakrams, so it's not all bad!

In my experience, this is (most reliably) achieved by stealing the primary (red) Chakram.1
If you steal the secondary Chakram, you usually end up with this:

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Fig. 2: Above, only the blue Chakram is available despite the Agh's on Rubick. How sad

The behaviour still seems a little inconsistent, but if you're trying to snag both Chakrams, the easiest thing to do is to snatch the red one and hope you get both. For reasons unknown, you'll still sometimes just get the red one...

I'm sure most of you will know that, if you die while you have a Chakram active, it leaves the graphic there for the rest of the game (which can be confusing and frustrating), but for reasons I do not fully understand, stealing a new spell while Chakram is active, then casting that spell and re-stealing Chakram often ends up doing *this* to your skills:

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Fig. 3: Every single time this happens, I ruin a teamfight.

The only remedy I've found is to quickly enable and disable legacy keys, though sometimes that doesn't work and all you can do is click the steal button and replace the spell. That usually shuffles them again.

This last has been around for a long time, but I have a feeling it'll become far more common with the new Agh's buff to Rubick. I guess we'll see :D

Do other Rubick players encounter the same bother? If so, have you found any ways to dodge these?





Note: If you steal both, you can ping them as in the above screenshot and the second comes up in all caps for extra emphasis :D
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aboxcar
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States447 Posts
December 23 2014 04:26 GMT
#2
my guess:

rubick holding aghs, when stealing the basic one gets both
rubick without aghs: only gets one
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BongChambers
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada591 Posts
December 23 2014 07:31 GMT
#3
I could see some kinda buggy stuff going on there as I remember the first thing my friend did was go in game and try out timber in a bot match when he got his aghs upgrade. I picked OD and just ran to his jungle to alt tab and let him have fun trying out the duel chakrams. After a minute or so I que back into the game and just astral him for the lols while he's throwing out his blades. Apparently it bugged his spell and showed both blades as blue, so ya I donno but I'm sure there are a few graphical/spell glitches out there.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
December 23 2014 07:59 GMT
#4
it probably depends on which chakrams are out
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
December 23 2014 12:40 GMT
#5
alurr dirty earthspirit player is what i take away from this
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YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
December 23 2014 13:32 GMT
#6
On December 23 2014 21:40 teddyoojo wrote:
alurr dirty earthspirit player is what i take away from this


Hahaha the hate is real
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
December 23 2014 15:51 GMT
#7
Valve should look into this bug
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
December 23 2014 15:56 GMT
#8
On December 23 2014 22:32 YourGoodFriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 21:40 teddyoojo wrote:
alurr dirty earthspirit player is what i take away from this


Hahaha the hate is real

if there is a dirty hero, alurr has probably played it
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
December 23 2014 16:01 GMT
#9
The wordsmithing level of this title is level 89, at least...
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
December 23 2014 17:24 GMT
#10
do you actually play with those graphics settings
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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
December 23 2014 20:32 GMT
#11
Yesterday in one game rubick stole chakram at least once and then lost it while a chakram was out, and it just stayed there spinning endlessly. Just the graphical part though I think, as it didn't do any damage or anything.
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SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4014 Posts
December 23 2014 21:24 GMT
#12
On December 24 2014 02:24 ahswtini wrote:
do you actually play with those graphics settings


I think you're beginning to see why I urn people so late. I have to stare into the vortex and find a player...
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
December 23 2014 22:39 GMT
#13
On December 24 2014 06:24 SirJolt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2014 02:24 ahswtini wrote:
do you actually play with those graphics settings


I think you're beginning to see why I urn people so late. I have to stare into the vortex and find a player...

this explains more than everything.......
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
December 24 2014 15:11 GMT
#14
On December 24 2014 00:56 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 22:32 YourGoodFriend wrote:
On December 23 2014 21:40 teddyoojo wrote:
alurr dirty earthspirit player is what i take away from this


Hahaha the hate is real

if there is a dirty hero, alurr has probably played it

No comment.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
December 24 2014 19:11 GMT
#15
On December 23 2014 21:40 teddyoojo wrote:
alurr dirty earthspirit player is what i take away from this

he clearly wasnt doing very well, 24 kills on radiant side and he didnt even have a streak going
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
December 24 2014 19:50 GMT
#16
I knew I didn't like Alurr
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
December 24 2014 20:07 GMT
#17
On December 25 2014 00:11 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2014 00:56 rabidch wrote:
On December 23 2014 22:32 YourGoodFriend wrote:
On December 23 2014 21:40 teddyoojo wrote:
alurr dirty earthspirit player is what i take away from this


Hahaha the hate is real

if there is a dirty hero, alurr has probably played it

No comment.

at least it was a "probably" and not a "certainly" or "definitely"
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xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
December 25 2014 09:40 GMT
#18
I wish Rubick got his own Chakram color (green obviously), since as Timbersaw I get messed up VERY frequently thinking the RubickChakram is mine, and spamming the "return chakram" key in vain
SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4014 Posts
December 27 2014 18:23 GMT
#19
On December 25 2014 04:11 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 21:40 teddyoojo wrote:
alurr dirty earthspirit player is what i take away from this

he clearly wasnt doing very well, 24 kills on radiant side and he didnt even have a streak going


Actually, in that game Alurr fed from offlane for the first twenty minutes, while imallinson put on an incredible show with Brewmaster and picked up and early radiance & aghs. There was a point in the game where he was at 18-2 or some such.
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