• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:20
CEST 21:20
KST 04:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris31Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!13Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195
StarCraft 2
General
Aligulac - Europe takes the podium A Eulogy for the Six Pool Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax 2v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Esports World Cup 2025 WardiTV Mondays RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below
Brood War
General
ASL20 - worst advertising ever... BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL Season 20 Ro24 Groups Flash On His 2010 "God" Form, Mind Games, vs JD
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro24 Group F [ASL20] Ro24 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] CSLAN Review and CSLPRO Reimagined!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The year 2050 European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment"
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Breaking the Meta: Non-Stand…
TrAiDoS
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1174 users

A rant about playing drums

Blogs > SoSexy
Post a Reply
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
October 21 2014 23:31 GMT
#1
Uff, lately I'm super pissed off at my playing. I've been playing guitar for 12 years, but the last two I've been focusing on drums. Lately I feel like I'm not making any progress at all - every part of my playing feels weak, my rolls sound sloppy, I'm just not content.

Maybe I'm too critical of myself - after all getting good takes time, and I know this from playing guitar. I really don't know.

Just a rant, as the title said.

*****
Dating thread on TL LUL
SourApplez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States61 Posts
October 21 2014 23:38 GMT
#2
I'm very critical of myself as well and know where you're coming from. But think about this. I have played guitar totally for like 15 hours, so you're experience and skill dwarfs mine. You haven't been playing drums for all that long so you may not be as great as people who have for their whole life, but there are millions of people (like me) that don't even know what a drum roll is.

Keep it up, believe in yourself, and recognize how far you have come =D
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
October 22 2014 02:04 GMT
#3
Playing an instrument is a weird thing isn't it? No matter how good you get, you will never be good enough in your own eyes. Other people may watch you play and say "Wow you are amazing" but we always retort with "My timing was off, I missed a bunch of notes, very sloppy playing in general" Keep at it man.
Wahaha
Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-22 03:37:15
October 22 2014 03:35 GMT
#4
As a percussionist, i can definitely appreciate your frustration. I've played drums basically all my life (about 20 years now), and I still get so pissed at myself for not being able to do things i want to, as quickly as i want to. But it sounds like you're doing it the right way at least (by learning the rudiments and such). Keep at it man! Drumming uses muscles in your hands/fingers/wrists/forearms that don't normally get use. It takes time to build them up and then it all becomes muscle memory (which is the truth behind all drumming). Just practice everyday and then you'll hit that point where your hands just do the work and you're not even thinking about it anymore.

+ Show Spoiler [About Rolls/Practice] +



You might want to work on the roll breakdown like this guy, except with double stroke roll you do Right Right Left Left Right Right Left Left and so on, instead of the single stroke he's doing. It helps to start real slow and very gradually increase the speed until you're at your limit then gradually slow it back down. This is a great exercise for rolls, do it over and over every time you practice (it's also a great warmup!). Over time you'll get cleaner and faster. You can essentially break down all the rudiments like this (which you probably should if you're really serious about drumming). I usually run through all the rudiments like this as my first part of "warmups".


Anyways, have at it man! keep up the drumming!!!

And like my late instructor always used to say "Put-it in tha pocket!"
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
Ghost151
Profile Joined May 2008
United States290 Posts
October 22 2014 05:14 GMT
#5
You're right, it just takes time. And lots of practice. Two years is not a huge amount of time to learn an instrument from scratch, especially if you are not having an instructor help you out. And going from one instrument to another that have such intrinsic differences is like learning the new instrument with no prior experience at all, little else besides a general grasp of timing carries over two two instruments as different as a stringed one and percussion.

I'm currently doing this the other way around, trying (miserably) to learn guitar after 9-10 years of drumming on and off. A good sense of rhythm and solid time are great thing to bring to the table learning any instrument, but I have no ear for tonality (though I understand it well enough, playing with my cousin for so long) and I am really having a hard time breaking the habit of keeping my fingers from moving together on the fretboard. I also grip the shit out it, habit I guess from trying not to throw sticks all the time.

One thing that always pissed me off (and it still does) is *not* not being able to play something, as I love to learn new things, , but when I hit one of those creative "walls" when playing and can't do anything new at my level that is interesting. So then I seek out new material to try and learn (most recently pop/rock form the 70s/80s, started with the Rosanna shuffle and kept going form there) until I can incorporate that too.
fuck art its a competition if you dont get pissed off when you lose you dont care enough - Idra, on the "art" of RTS games.
FoxShine
Profile Joined January 2012
United States156 Posts
October 22 2014 07:11 GMT
#6
The drums are a really challenging instrument to get down. It seems easy to an outsider because you're just hitting skins and cymbals and everyone can make a beat with their hands. If your serious about getting better at the drums, there's a couple things I can tell you that were drilled into my head when I was learning.

The first thing is Rudiments. They are boring, but they are basically your mechanics. I hear you saying your rolls are sloppy, this will help them the most. "Single Stroke Seven" starting and stopping with opposite hands firmly and evenly builds strength and control. The 5 stroke/7 stroke double stroke roll is more or less snare only until your really good, but it really improves your 'sticking'. Getting these rolls nice and tight, alternating with proper accents is the goal. If you want quicker results learn Single and Double Paradiddles. You can do paradiddles around the drums starting and completing them between drums to get comfortable moving around the set.

Second, mindset, I mean the same goes with any instrument. It takes discipline and practice. A big problem drummers run into is they don't treat the instrument with the same 'rigor' as piano or something. It's easy to pick it up and improve sporadically. Dedicating some time to your rudiments, tempo, and form really pays off. A good mantra to live by, "Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect Practice makes perfect." So sit up straight, center yourself, and be balanced when you play.

Herein lies the dilemma, aside from rudiments it's easy to be too critical about how your playing or hard on yourself. Trying to get certain things down can be really frustrating. So the other half of practicing is just jamming out. Just as much as you want to be disciplined when your practicing rudiments, conversely, you want to loosen way up and just feel it. Sit down for an hour or so and just play different things that come to mind, what you know, or try what you want to do, be creative. I used to jam for a few hours after practice, I found that after an hour or 2 of exhausting everything I knew or was working on, only then do I start doing new things or do certain stuff just "come together". Spend a lot of time to get over plateaus, but just remember that drums are ALL about dynamics. Seriously, this is the most fun thing to play with. There nothing better than just jamming out to the same beat or fill emphasizing different parts, changing accents, slowing down here, getting louder and softer there. Things start to sound waaay different and it feels reeeally good to get into the rhythm. Have fun!
We do what we must, because we can
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 22 2014 09:50 GMT
#7
Isn't making progress, then feeling like you don't progress, then progressing a lot again, part of everything you learn (especially concerning instruments)?
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
October 22 2014 10:30 GMT
#8
Thanks everyone for the comments you guys pumped new drumming force in me
Dating thread on TL LUL
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 40m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 494
UpATreeSC 128
ProTech106
JuggernautJason39
BRAT_OK 35
MindelVK 14
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 24684
Calm 3168
Larva 356
Mong 89
Dewaltoss 80
Killer 41
Aegong 27
Rock 22
ajuk12(nOOB) 20
soO 18
[ Show more ]
Sacsri 12
HiyA 11
NaDa 8
Beast 2
Dota 2
Fuzer 247
Pyrionflax129
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Reynor69
Counter-Strike
fl0m4331
flusha169
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu349
Other Games
Grubby1855
FrodaN864
IndyStarCraft 178
C9.Mang0138
Trikslyr52
markeloff48
ZombieGrub27
fpsfer 1
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 28
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 18
• Reevou 1
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade896
• Doublelift632
Counter-Strike
• imaqtpie888
Other Games
• WagamamaTV331
• Shiphtur129
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
4h 40m
The PondCast
14h 40m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
15h 40m
herO vs MaxPax
Clem vs Classic
Replay Cast
1d 4h
LiuLi Cup
1d 15h
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Cure vs Rogue
Classic vs HeRoMaRinE
Cosmonarchy
1d 20h
OyAji vs Sziky
Sziky vs WolFix
WolFix vs OyAji
BSL Team Wars
1d 23h
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
1d 23h
Team Hawk vs Team Bonyth
SC Evo League
2 days
TaeJa vs Cure
Rogue vs threepoint
ByuN vs Creator
MaNa vs Classic
Maestros of the Game
2 days
ShoWTimE vs Cham
GuMiho vs Ryung
Zoun vs Spirit
Rogue vs MaNa
[ Show More ]
[BSL 2025] Weekly
2 days
SC Evo League
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
SHIN vs Creator
Astrea vs Lambo
Bunny vs SKillous
HeRoMaRinE vs TriGGeR
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Team Dewalt vs Team Sziky
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSLAN 3
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
Acropolis #4 - TS1
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
Sisters' Call Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.