• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:18
CET 15:18
KST 23:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !8Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
When will we find out if there are more tournament ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump
Tourneys
Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum PC Games Sales Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1554 users

A rant about playing drums

Blogs > SoSexy
Post a Reply
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
October 21 2014 23:31 GMT
#1
Uff, lately I'm super pissed off at my playing. I've been playing guitar for 12 years, but the last two I've been focusing on drums. Lately I feel like I'm not making any progress at all - every part of my playing feels weak, my rolls sound sloppy, I'm just not content.

Maybe I'm too critical of myself - after all getting good takes time, and I know this from playing guitar. I really don't know.

Just a rant, as the title said.

*****
Dating thread on TL LUL
SourApplez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States61 Posts
October 21 2014 23:38 GMT
#2
I'm very critical of myself as well and know where you're coming from. But think about this. I have played guitar totally for like 15 hours, so you're experience and skill dwarfs mine. You haven't been playing drums for all that long so you may not be as great as people who have for their whole life, but there are millions of people (like me) that don't even know what a drum roll is.

Keep it up, believe in yourself, and recognize how far you have come =D
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
October 22 2014 02:04 GMT
#3
Playing an instrument is a weird thing isn't it? No matter how good you get, you will never be good enough in your own eyes. Other people may watch you play and say "Wow you are amazing" but we always retort with "My timing was off, I missed a bunch of notes, very sloppy playing in general" Keep at it man.
Wahaha
Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-22 03:37:15
October 22 2014 03:35 GMT
#4
As a percussionist, i can definitely appreciate your frustration. I've played drums basically all my life (about 20 years now), and I still get so pissed at myself for not being able to do things i want to, as quickly as i want to. But it sounds like you're doing it the right way at least (by learning the rudiments and such). Keep at it man! Drumming uses muscles in your hands/fingers/wrists/forearms that don't normally get use. It takes time to build them up and then it all becomes muscle memory (which is the truth behind all drumming). Just practice everyday and then you'll hit that point where your hands just do the work and you're not even thinking about it anymore.

+ Show Spoiler [About Rolls/Practice] +



You might want to work on the roll breakdown like this guy, except with double stroke roll you do Right Right Left Left Right Right Left Left and so on, instead of the single stroke he's doing. It helps to start real slow and very gradually increase the speed until you're at your limit then gradually slow it back down. This is a great exercise for rolls, do it over and over every time you practice (it's also a great warmup!). Over time you'll get cleaner and faster. You can essentially break down all the rudiments like this (which you probably should if you're really serious about drumming). I usually run through all the rudiments like this as my first part of "warmups".


Anyways, have at it man! keep up the drumming!!!

And like my late instructor always used to say "Put-it in tha pocket!"
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
Ghost151
Profile Joined May 2008
United States290 Posts
October 22 2014 05:14 GMT
#5
You're right, it just takes time. And lots of practice. Two years is not a huge amount of time to learn an instrument from scratch, especially if you are not having an instructor help you out. And going from one instrument to another that have such intrinsic differences is like learning the new instrument with no prior experience at all, little else besides a general grasp of timing carries over two two instruments as different as a stringed one and percussion.

I'm currently doing this the other way around, trying (miserably) to learn guitar after 9-10 years of drumming on and off. A good sense of rhythm and solid time are great thing to bring to the table learning any instrument, but I have no ear for tonality (though I understand it well enough, playing with my cousin for so long) and I am really having a hard time breaking the habit of keeping my fingers from moving together on the fretboard. I also grip the shit out it, habit I guess from trying not to throw sticks all the time.

One thing that always pissed me off (and it still does) is *not* not being able to play something, as I love to learn new things, , but when I hit one of those creative "walls" when playing and can't do anything new at my level that is interesting. So then I seek out new material to try and learn (most recently pop/rock form the 70s/80s, started with the Rosanna shuffle and kept going form there) until I can incorporate that too.
fuck art its a competition if you dont get pissed off when you lose you dont care enough - Idra, on the "art" of RTS games.
FoxShine
Profile Joined January 2012
United States156 Posts
October 22 2014 07:11 GMT
#6
The drums are a really challenging instrument to get down. It seems easy to an outsider because you're just hitting skins and cymbals and everyone can make a beat with their hands. If your serious about getting better at the drums, there's a couple things I can tell you that were drilled into my head when I was learning.

The first thing is Rudiments. They are boring, but they are basically your mechanics. I hear you saying your rolls are sloppy, this will help them the most. "Single Stroke Seven" starting and stopping with opposite hands firmly and evenly builds strength and control. The 5 stroke/7 stroke double stroke roll is more or less snare only until your really good, but it really improves your 'sticking'. Getting these rolls nice and tight, alternating with proper accents is the goal. If you want quicker results learn Single and Double Paradiddles. You can do paradiddles around the drums starting and completing them between drums to get comfortable moving around the set.

Second, mindset, I mean the same goes with any instrument. It takes discipline and practice. A big problem drummers run into is they don't treat the instrument with the same 'rigor' as piano or something. It's easy to pick it up and improve sporadically. Dedicating some time to your rudiments, tempo, and form really pays off. A good mantra to live by, "Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect Practice makes perfect." So sit up straight, center yourself, and be balanced when you play.

Herein lies the dilemma, aside from rudiments it's easy to be too critical about how your playing or hard on yourself. Trying to get certain things down can be really frustrating. So the other half of practicing is just jamming out. Just as much as you want to be disciplined when your practicing rudiments, conversely, you want to loosen way up and just feel it. Sit down for an hour or so and just play different things that come to mind, what you know, or try what you want to do, be creative. I used to jam for a few hours after practice, I found that after an hour or 2 of exhausting everything I knew or was working on, only then do I start doing new things or do certain stuff just "come together". Spend a lot of time to get over plateaus, but just remember that drums are ALL about dynamics. Seriously, this is the most fun thing to play with. There nothing better than just jamming out to the same beat or fill emphasizing different parts, changing accents, slowing down here, getting louder and softer there. Things start to sound waaay different and it feels reeeally good to get into the rhythm. Have fun!
We do what we must, because we can
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 22 2014 09:50 GMT
#7
Isn't making progress, then feeling like you don't progress, then progressing a lot again, part of everything you learn (especially concerning instruments)?
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
October 22 2014 10:30 GMT
#8
Thanks everyone for the comments you guys pumped new drumming force in me
Dating thread on TL LUL
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
SC Evo League
12:30
#18
LiquipediaDiscussion
WardiTV 2025
11:00
Playoffs
Reynor vs MaxPaxLIVE!
SHIN vs TBD
TBD vs Cure
Solar vs herO
Classic vs TBD
TBD vs Clem
WardiTV1870
ComeBackTV 1415
TaKeTV 563
IndyStarCraft 272
Rex166
CosmosSc2 144
LiquipediaDiscussion
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Master Swan Open #99
CranKy Ducklings65
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko351
IndyStarCraft 272
Rex 166
CosmosSc2 144
MindelVK 39
trigger 21
StarCraft: Brood War
EffOrt 871
Stork 629
firebathero 332
Leta 288
Last 170
ggaemo 157
Zeus 124
Larva 120
Bonyth 60
zelot 35
[ Show more ]
Mong 34
ajuk12(nOOB) 33
Shinee 32
yabsab 26
ToSsGirL 24
ivOry 12
Rock 10
SilentControl 7
Terrorterran 4
Dota 2
singsing5790
Gorgc5622
qojqva1616
XcaliburYe256
League of Legends
rGuardiaN86
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor267
Other Games
B2W.Neo1771
Pyrionflax365
crisheroes340
DeMusliM280
Hui .185
XaKoH 139
KnowMe62
QueenE31
Trikslyr27
Organizations
Other Games
PGL351
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 9
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• C_a_k_e 2323
• Gemini_19 25
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2170
• Jankos2001
Upcoming Events
Ladder Legends
4h 42m
BSL 21
5h 42m
Sziky vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs Cross
Sparkling Tuna Cup
19h 42m
Ladder Legends
1d 2h
BSL 21
1d 5h
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
Replay Cast
1d 18h
Wardi Open
1d 21h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.