• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:55
CEST 23:55
KST 06:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End1Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7
Community News
GSTL Returns in 2026!41Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-611
StarCraft 2
General
GSTL Returns in 2026! Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Protoss AoE skill expression Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory
Brood War
General
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End Rush's Odyssey Controversy StarCraft 64 is coming to Philly at SC4ALL II BW General Discussion Best Games Kespa era
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! [ASL22] Ro24 Group A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10817 users

Cannon spots S3 2014

Blogs > Duckvillelol
Post a Reply
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1259 Posts
July 20 2014 10:56 GMT
#1
A short look at a few of the new maps, and how to cannon rush them - as requested (yes, I'm serious) by a few people in the SC2 community.

Last time I did a cannon rush guide, I made a video (here) that kinda went on a bit long because I tend to rant a bit and obviously it showed through. So this time I'm just going to show some pictures and some basic tips. We won't be going into fully extended cannon rush techniques - that's something that would take a lot longer, not to mention if you want some real cannon rush guidance I'd speak to Ninja or Gaulzi about it, I'm not as good as those guys.

So we'll be just looking at the placement of certain blocks - fancy stuff only - and just some basics. Techniques and such; ask me directly or go ask Ninja/Gaulzi.

Bear in mind; if you're not a Protoss and/or you're a purest who likes to pretend cheese doesn't exist - this guide actually does help you; just remember to be careful with these spots.

Quick notes:
  • 3-pylon blocks are the limit. 4-pylon blocks generally aren't worth it, unless you're 100% sure you'll kill or severely maim the opponent. 2-pylon blocks are obviously super awesome, however I couldn't find any (discounting cancel-blocks)
  • Natural rushes I've shown below are of course mainly for PvZ
  • In PvZ if you're cannoning the main you really need to be doing one or both of these things: blocking the main ramp down to the natural, or stopping gas income (completely) otherwise it's sometimes just not worth it at all, and you could have just sat on the natural hatch instead
  • Main base rushes I've shown below are mainly for PvP/PvT. In PvZ there are a couple of slightly complex cannon plays you can do, but I'm not showing them all here
  • TRIANGLES ARE YOUR FRIEND (You'll see why)
  • Unless specifically stated, these positions are mirrored on all mains/nats, however the position may be slightly different based on the rotation of the base, obviously


      FOXTROT LABS LE:

This one is quite a dastardly map when it comes to cannon rushing, mainly because of this triangle position:

[image loading]

These triple blocks are really frustrating to deal with (or easy to do, depending on the side of the coin you're on) - because you can triple-pylon to create a tight wall, and you can position your probe close to the middle pylon and then build the cannon - while clicking outside the pylons and glitch the probe out. So in theory you can just send one probe around and not waste mining time on a second probe like you would normally if you had to do a full wall-block.

There's this at the natural (can be done at each natural):

[image loading]

Just build up the wall safely, then glitch out by building the assimilator and clicking out.


      NIMBUS LE

A full block on the high-ground "backdoor" natural, primarily for Zerg:

[image loading]

Use the same assimilator trick from Foxtrot Labs to get the probe out.

Nimbus also has the fun triangles like Foxtrot, so beware of these:


[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]


Against a Zerg you can possibly do this, but I think it's a little risky and I don't like it because it doesn't really follow the rules for cannon'ing a Zerg main (see notes above):

[image loading]

If you want to cannon rush a Zerg (or just be extra sneaky) do this instead:

[image loading]


      CATALLENA LE:

Apart from a committed cannon rusher, this map offers virtually nothing compared to the other new maps, the only real "nice" spot was this, only on the top base:

[image loading]

This is a 3-pylon block glitch-out position. The other bases don't have this, and I successfully did it against a Terran, quite hilariously.


      DEADWING LE:

Another map that offers very little in the main apart from the adept cannon rusher; this map has some cool spots in the nat which don't look like full blocks, but the Zerg you cannon will find they actually are. These two pics are mirrored vertically so just keep that in mind:

[image loading]

[image loading]

Doesn't look complete, but it is. No 2-pylon blocks at all that I could find.


      CONCLUSION

It's important to consider that when you're cannoning you really do need to make sure you're not investing in more than you can safely guarantee you'll be able to destroy + extra. If you're cannoning and you're not constantly blocking an active mineral line; you have to be hitting something else, killing workers, or blocking the main base exit ramp, at a minimum. This is why the Frost LE cannon-rush was so awesome; because not only could you glitch out, but you could block the ramp and kill the nat all at the same time.

Just make sure, whatever you do, you don't waste resources getting nothing for it. Check out this replay of me vs some guy on ladder who made the most uneconomical cannon rush ever. Watch the resources lost tab, and keep in mind that it doesn't count buildings lost, and it doesn't including the mining time lost. I'm actually terrible at Zerg and I was able to deal with it, then deal with him, so yeah.

Cheers,

PS: Shoutout to Probe

***
Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
July 20 2014 13:41 GMT
#2
never understood why ppl try to block in cannons so badly, its enough if theres very little surface are around it to be successful almost always. so many different ways to cannonrush when ur clever
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
July 20 2014 18:56 GMT
#3
I am not sure about 2v2 maps, but yesterday I saw cannons-festival (8game in a row), especially vs double protoss.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Ninjastarcraft
Profile Joined June 2012
United States8 Posts
July 23 2014 00:01 GMT
#4
Hey thanks for the shoutout. This is a great guide, although I do feel like you're missing some of the better pylon blocking positions. Regardless, I really came here to comment on this.

3-pylon blocks are the limit. 4-pylon blocks generally aren't worth it, unless you're 100% sure you'll kill or severely maim the opponent.

Aren't cannon rushes only successful if you at least maim your opponent? I find that most pvp cannon rushes require at least 4 pylons, but that's because it's all in and the plan is to completely eliminate the other player from the game. It just seems weird to suggest that people should stay away from 4 pylon cannon rushes, because most maps don't have 4 pylon blocks that can kill the opponent. You can usually 3 pylon a nat if you're facing zerg, but tbh I feel like most of the 3 pylon blocks you put above are counterable by probe pulls, although I haven't tried them yet, so it's very possible that I could be wrong. Anyways, thanks for taking the time to screenshot and write all of this content. It's always really helpful to get a look at other peoples cannon placements, because it's easy to stop experimenting with new placements once you find a few which work.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IPSL
16:00
CSLAN Day 2
Airneanach300
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ZombieGrub63
StarCraft: Brood War
scan(afreeca) 17
Dota 2
XaKoH 760
League of Legends
Doublelift4963
JimRising 362
Counter-Strike
summit1g6506
fl0m2292
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King102
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu470
Other Games
gofns15564
Grubby2020
Liquid`RaSZi1735
Mlord456
elazer99
RotterdaM95
ROOTCatZ43
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1133
BasetradeTV68
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 165
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21719
Other Games
• imaqtpie1685
• Shiphtur378
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 5m
Afreeca Starleague
12h 5m
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
13h 5m
The Patches Monday
18h 5m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 12h
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
GSL
1d 13h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
PiG Sty Festival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
CSLAN 4
Proleague 2026-08-16
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

ASL Season 22
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
Escore Tournament S3: W8
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.