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So I'm super pissed off at my physical condition. I run 20 km a week and lift, basically I do stuff 4-5 days a week and eat as healthy as I can (a typical meal is steak + vegetables). I'm doing the best I can to get a six pack but I just can't seem to do it.
People who didn't see me for a long time are usually surprised that I 'lost so much weight and look slimmer' but the fact is that I don't see any difference from pictures of last year. This makes me angry, because why the fuck should I sweat and endure this pain if nothing comes after? There were time I ate so little that in the morning when I woke up my head was spinning like crazy. Still, no result. I can barely see my top 2 abs on a good day (i.e. after a run).
I know people who eat like shit, drink 2x than me and exercise 2x less who are ripped. I'm pretty tired of losing a lot of time with no results...since my strong point is bulking up, I was thinking about stop trying to get a six pack and at least get big. I could just lift like crazy and eat a LOT, I'm pretty tired of going after the diet food everytime I go to a restaurant 
What do you guys think?
 
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how can you say your strong point is bulking up when everyone says you look skinny? Maybe bulk up then cut fat like all the bodybuilders?
being healthy and certain physical attributes are not the same thing. You can run most guys with 6 packs into the ground. It's just a matter of having big abs and then cutting fat so you can see them.
eating healthy and eating enough calories and protein to gain weight arent the same either
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Endorphins, bro, endorphins.
No, but some people's body type makes it hard for abdominal muscles to be visible. Plus, to get a "6-pack", it's just a matter of the fat covering your abdominals, not necessarily how you keep exercising the muscle.
I know your pain, I have a friend who eats McDonalds on a weekly basis and the guy somehow manages to maintain a 6-pack. Something you could do is take a picture in front of a mirror of yourself every single day you workout, and that way, you can have some sort of record of the progress you're making physically. I'm pretty sure physical development like seeing ripped muscles with veins popping out and washboard abs will eventually come in time, especially if what you're saying is true, about how you eat healthy and workout daily.
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Getting a six pack and being big are usually mutually exclusive, maintaining the low body fat % required while having significant muscle mass is extremely difficult unless you're on steroids. Its partly genetics too, there are bodybuilders with extremely low body fat who don't have a full six pack. If I were you I'd just forget about the six pack thing, its better to be big and strong than have an attractive stomach (that most people will never see anyways).
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On July 07 2014 08:08 Slayer91 wrote:
how can you say your strong point is bulking up when everyone says you look skinny? Maybe bulk up then cut fat like all the bodybuilders?
being healthy and certain physical attributes are not the same thing. You can run most guys with 6 packs into the ground. It's just a matter of having big abs and then cutting fat so you can see them.
eating healthy and eating enough calories and protein to gain weight arent the same either
What I mean is that if I bulk for 3 months, it's very noticeable. If I run for 3 months, it looks only slightly different (like you wouldn't tell the difference)
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I can't imagine needing steroids unless you want to be super big
all those boxers and mma fighters who fight in weight classes have 6 packs because of the brutal weight control they go through. but the womens MMA fighters don't really have a visible 6 pack so it should be pretty clear its a combination of size and low bodyfat%
On July 07 2014 08:13 SoSexy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 08:08 Slayer91 wrote:
how can you say your strong point is bulking up when everyone says you look skinny? Maybe bulk up then cut fat like all the bodybuilders?
being healthy and certain physical attributes are not the same thing. You can run most guys with 6 packs into the ground. It's just a matter of having big abs and then cutting fat so you can see them.
eating healthy and eating enough calories and protein to gain weight arent the same either What I mean is that if I bulk for 3 months, it's very noticeable. If I run for 3 months, it looks only slightly different (like you wouldn't tell the difference)
have you seen distance runners? they are usually pretty skinny, running isn't going to make you big, you need endurance not strength, your legs might get bigger but you aren't look for that anyway probably.
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On July 07 2014 08:08 iamho wrote:
Getting a six pack and being big are usually mutually exclusive, maintaining the low body fat % required while having significant muscle mass is extremely difficult unless you're on steroids. Its partly genetics too, there are bodybuilders with extremely low body fat who don't have a full six pack. If I were you I'd just forget about the six pack thing, its better to be big and strong than have an attractive stomach (that most people will never see anyways).
your last line is very nice  thanks!
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On July 07 2014 08:13 Slayer91 wrote:I can't imagine needing steroids unless you want to be super big all those boxers and mma fighters who fight in weight classes have 6 packs because of the brutal weight control they go through. but the womens MMA fighters don't really have a visible 6 pack so it should be pretty clear its a combination of size and low bodyfat% Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 08:13 SoSexy wrote:On July 07 2014 08:08 Slayer91 wrote:
how can you say your strong point is bulking up when everyone says you look skinny? Maybe bulk up then cut fat like all the bodybuilders?
being healthy and certain physical attributes are not the same thing. You can run most guys with 6 packs into the ground. It's just a matter of having big abs and then cutting fat so you can see them.
eating healthy and eating enough calories and protein to gain weight arent the same either What I mean is that if I bulk for 3 months, it's very noticeable. If I run for 3 months, it looks only slightly different (like you wouldn't tell the difference) have you seen distance runners? they are usually pretty skinny, running isn't going to make you big, you need endurance not strength, your legs might get bigger but you aren't look for that anyway probably.
Dude I never said I wanted to get big by running in first place. I like my muscles right now and so I was running just to get rid of belly fat. Since it's not working, I'm thinking about a plan B: just eat and lift, stop caring about 6-pack and just getting big.
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If you're doing everything right, but you're not leaning up, then it's the food that you're eating. What I've found is that unless you're eating steak properly, then that shit is pretty fattening and detrimental in your quest to getting lower bf %'s. Eat chicken breast instead. Me personally, after I switched my protein intake from cows to chicken, I started seeing amazing results.
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On July 07 2014 08:16 SoSexy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 08:13 Slayer91 wrote:I can't imagine needing steroids unless you want to be super big all those boxers and mma fighters who fight in weight classes have 6 packs because of the brutal weight control they go through. but the womens MMA fighters don't really have a visible 6 pack so it should be pretty clear its a combination of size and low bodyfat% On July 07 2014 08:13 SoSexy wrote:On July 07 2014 08:08 Slayer91 wrote:
how can you say your strong point is bulking up when everyone says you look skinny? Maybe bulk up then cut fat like all the bodybuilders?
being healthy and certain physical attributes are not the same thing. You can run most guys with 6 packs into the ground. It's just a matter of having big abs and then cutting fat so you can see them.
eating healthy and eating enough calories and protein to gain weight arent the same either What I mean is that if I bulk for 3 months, it's very noticeable. If I run for 3 months, it looks only slightly different (like you wouldn't tell the difference) have you seen distance runners? they are usually pretty skinny, running isn't going to make you big, you need endurance not strength, your legs might get bigger but you aren't look for that anyway probably. Dude I never said I wanted to get big by running in first place. I like my muscles right now and so I was running just to get rid of belly fat. Since it's not working, I'm thinking about a plan B: just eat and lift, stop caring about 6-pack and just getting big.
Why you run to lose belly fat though? Losing fat is just a matter of calories in < calories out and you need to execise enough to keep muscles from deteriorating. Running isnt that efficient for burning calories anyway.
I mean it depends on your goals anyway. If you just want to have a 6 pack then you need to lose fat (and probably work out your abs) but if you just want to look good who cares about a 6 pack unless you are an underwear model.
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Your friends probably have a really fast metabolism (I assume you are young), don't worry, your routine and schedule will help you out much more when you are older, as people who don't have a routine gain weight a lot faster. It's good you have some "meat" on the bones, a lot of girls like that. They will be able to tell you are active, doesn't matter if you're "ripped"
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Your bodyfat percentage is too high. Eat less and cut.
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Carb Cycling. Convincing the alpha-2 adrenagic receptors to play ball is quite hard.
Also, running, for the most part, costs you Muscle more than Fat. Cardo has good utility, but getting ripped is not part of it.
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I used to feel like this too... I have so many friends who are so unhealthy and I'm just like "how do you eat that and maintain your rippedness?" I got over it by focusing on what I can do and the skills I can develop. I think striving for certain skill related goals (one arm pullup, pistol squats, x lbs bench press, one arm handstand, etc) is a much more attainable/healthy focus than striving to look a certain way. I think it's just super hard (comparatively) for people like us to look that way. In the less frustrating quest for these skills I think you'll find, like I did, that you have more fun working out and your physique improves regardless.
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u never posted ur height/weight/pic
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You're running to get a six pack?
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On July 07 2014 08:13 SoSexy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 08:08 Slayer91 wrote:
how can you say your strong point is bulking up when everyone says you look skinny? Maybe bulk up then cut fat like all the bodybuilders?
being healthy and certain physical attributes are not the same thing. You can run most guys with 6 packs into the ground. It's just a matter of having big abs and then cutting fat so you can see them.
eating healthy and eating enough calories and protein to gain weight arent the same either What I mean is that if I bulk for 3 months, it's very noticeable. If I run for 3 months, it looks only slightly different (like you wouldn't tell the difference)
I dont get it. How would you look any different if you run? Except people could see your heart muscle lol.
Running is for improving your cardio, weights is for looks.
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On July 07 2014 08:59 FFGenerations wrote:
u never posted ur height/weight/pic
Exactly. Like asking for SC2 help w/o a Replay.
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Start intermittent fasting and really, don't worry so much about that 6 pack it isn't the holy grail its cracked up to be
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On July 07 2014 08:00 SoSexy wrote:
This makes me angry, because why the fuck should I sweat and endure this pain if nothing comes after?
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Don't really understand this. Pretty sure the reason you run is to...run faster? And be healthier. If you are sweating and hurting you are most definitely becoming healthier and more fit and ergo have a strong reason to continue
On July 07 2014 08:00 SoSexy wrote:
So I'm super pissed off at my physical condition. I run 20 km a week and lift, basically I do stuff 4-5 days a week and eat as healthy as I can (a typical meal is steak + vegetables). I'm doing the best I can to get a six pack but I just can't seem to do it.
There were time I ate so little that in the morning when I woke up my head was spinning like crazy.
Almost certainly a weight issue. If you are lean enough you WILL be shredded and able to see abs. If you weren't losing weight, you were almost certainly eating too much food. I know you talked about being hungry in the morning, but if you are losing weight that is how you should feel. You shouldn't feel famished all the time no matter what, but there are going to be points, especially going to bed and before meals where you will feel hungry, and that gets better/worse depending on what exactly you eat and your bodies hormone levels.
Bottom line though if you want a six pack you have to be lean. You can lift all day but if your BF % remains too high you won't ever end up with that six pack.
On July 07 2014 08:00 SoSexy wrote:
I know people who eat like shit, drink 2x than me and exercise 2x less who are ripped. I'm pretty tired of losing a lot of time with no results
That is commonly called "genetics". Some people naturally have a better predisposition to being lean, or a faster metabolism. Just how it goes.
As for the second part, I guarantee you are getting results. You're getting stronger, faster, and more fit in general; and almost certainly have a more healthy blood profile.
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On July 07 2014 09:55 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 08:13 SoSexy wrote:On July 07 2014 08:08 Slayer91 wrote:
how can you say your strong point is bulking up when everyone says you look skinny? Maybe bulk up then cut fat like all the bodybuilders?
being healthy and certain physical attributes are not the same thing. You can run most guys with 6 packs into the ground. It's just a matter of having big abs and then cutting fat so you can see them.
eating healthy and eating enough calories and protein to gain weight arent the same either What I mean is that if I bulk for 3 months, it's very noticeable. If I run for 3 months, it looks only slightly different (like you wouldn't tell the difference) I dont get it. How would you look any different if you run? Except people could see your heart muscle lol. Running is for improving your cardio, weights is for looks.
Have you seen good runners? Okay admittedly most do some gym work, but especially for distance guys that tends to be pretty low key and ancillary. Sprinters are shredded as hell. Again, in part because of their gym work, but sprinting itself is very much a power activity and develops the hamstrings, glutes, and much of the core very well.
The last time I saw a good distance runner, or sprinter, that wasn't shredded was...well never. Unless you look like specifically at marathon guys that carry almost no weight at all because you can't afford to at that distance, but even they are shredded...just very thin.
All that said, if you're goal is to look good naked...running is not the optimum way to get there by any means.
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