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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On July 07 2014 11:35 Jerubaal wrote: Guys, I knew this one girl and she started jogging and lost a lot of weight and looked fantastic. Oh wait, that never happened. Odd. I've seen it happen several times. It's pretty easy for a woman to look fantastic primarily by dropping weight. Thrown in some light sprint work and a light core day 1-2x a week and if the diet is there she is going to be looking quite good once her BF % gets into a decent range. Unless we are talking magazine cover ripped, it's not that hard to look good if you get to a good BF range. Throw in the occasional weight work for some definition and you're going to be looking pretty damn good. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
Do less(no) cardio, so you have 2-3 days where you eat nothing but meat and veggies in small quantities and lose weight on those days. Keep lifting hard and eating enough on the others. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On July 07 2014 08:00 SoSexy wrote: I refuse to believe that if you get drunk once a week you can't have a 6 pack if you run 20 km and lift weights. Most likely that is not a problem, but it sorta depends. If you are barely eating below maintenance on most other days, and then drink hard once or twice on the weekend you could easily end up 1000+ calories over for the weekend. A typical beer has like 150 calories, and shots can vary between 70-100, so if you are having a good night of drinking with 5-10 drinks...that's a good number of calories. Also as far as calories go, 20km a week of running is bordering on nothing, not that running "something" should be your goal if the aim is merely to get shredded. A little 5k run might burn off like 300-400 calories which in the grand scheme of things isn't all that much. If you are training 150km a week running or cycling 500km+ per week...game is a little different. That's when you can start devouring food like there is no tomorrow and drop weight, but of course that isn't going to be the route to the most rockin bod possible, and takes some time to build to. Girls don't need muscles to look good, that is why most crossfit girls look great. Haha that subtle jab at crossfit  | ||
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GodOfWarAReS
Germany105 Posts
first: yes some people eat tons and are still ripped. For Two Reasons: 1. They have really big abs and, more importantly, 2. They overall have just alot of muscles! the more muscles you have, the more fat you burn. A man with double the amount of muscles basically need twice as much kalories. And not eating something in the morning is the dumbest idea i've ever heard. Especially in the morning its so important to eat fast carbs and proteines to speed up your metabolism. My suggestion: make dirty bulking for some time ( not just 1 month, but maybe 6-12 months ). Gain alot of weight and then slowly lose all your fat by not eating alot of carbs over the day. Yes eating less carbs over the curse of the day will lower your weight alot... Problem with low carb diet: your metabolism gets slowed down alot. you will feel really bad and you will lose some muscles, so if you are not big right now i dont suggest you to do that. But if your ONLY goal is to have a sixpack, go ahead. eat some fast carbs in the morning, and from then on just chicken, meat, vegetables and some oil/fat ( NO fat doesnt make you fat, carbs do! ) and you will lose all fat really fast. By the way.. I dont think having a sixpack while being kinda skinny will give you any credit from women or men. At least if you are not 13 years old. | ||
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
I'm feeling kinda thorn at the moment - the six-pack has become almost a psychological benchmark for me. I wanted it since I was 14 and I was never able to achieve it... Also, I didn't expect this reactions towards running. It seemed kinda logical to me - if I need 2000 calories a day, I can eat 2000 and lose 400 to lose weight. Anyway, I recognize that it's better to be fit overall than chasing a 6-pack and look skinny. But I'm somewhat insecure because I fear that if I just start to lift heavy and eat a lot my stomach will swell like crazy :S I'm 1.81m and around 74 kg. In the past I reached up to 90+ and there I had a really big belly but didn't do any training at all. Now I'm way fitter, but the area between my bellybutton and crotch looks the same to me... | ||
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lisward
Singapore959 Posts
On July 07 2014 08:00 SoSexy wrote: So I'm super pissed off at my physical condition. I run 20 km a week and lift, basically I do stuff 4-5 days a week and eat as healthy as I can (a typical meal is steak + vegetables). I'm doing the best I can to get a six pack but I just can't seem to do it. People who didn't see me for a long time are usually surprised that I 'lost so much weight and look slimmer' but the fact is that I don't see any difference from pictures of last year. This makes me angry, because why the fuck should I sweat and endure this pain if nothing comes after? There were time I ate so little that in the morning when I woke up my head was spinning like crazy. Still, no result. I can barely see my top 2 abs on a good day (i.e. after a run). I know people who eat like shit, drink 2x than me and exercise 2x less who are ripped. I'm pretty tired of losing a lot of time with no results...since my strong point is bulking up, I was thinking about stop trying to get a six pack and at least get big. I could just lift like crazy and eat a LOT, I'm pretty tired of going after the diet food everytime I go to a restaurant  What do you guys think? Assuming you really want to improve. Get your bodyfat measured, tell us your weight and height. You also don't seem to have any concrete goals. Are you training for a marathon? Do you want to be big, or do you want to be ripped? Edit: Saw your post. To be 'big' you'd probably want to be around 90kilos at 1.81. Big, fat, ripped, this is all subjective. It's better that you post your bodyfat so we know exactly where you are. | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
do you do ab work btw? im interested atm coz im starting to do reverse shit dragonflags etc | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On July 07 2014 15:30 SoSexy wrote: Thanks for all the replies! I'm feeling kinda thorn at the moment - the six-pack has become almost a psychological benchmark for me. I wanted it since I was 14 and I was never able to achieve it... Also, I didn't expect this reactions towards running. It seemed kinda logical to me - if I need 2000 calories a day, I can eat 2000 and lose 400 to lose weight. Anyway, I recognize that it's better to be fit overall than chasing a 6-pack and look skinny. But I'm somewhat insecure because I fear that if I just start to lift heavy and eat a lot my stomach will swell like crazy :S I'm 1.81m and around 74 kg. In the past I reached up to 90+ and there I had a really big belly but didn't do any training at all. Now I'm way fitter, but the area between my bellybutton and crotch looks the same to me... You're close. Probably around 70kg your abs will start to show nicely, and 65 or so might be like 4% BF style shredded. Each individual is different of course. And okay, if you intend to use running like that...that's not a bad use. Just make sure if you are counting calories that you're honest with yourself in assessing your portion sizes. A good way to do it is just base of right now, since you are holding weight. Track what you eat over 3-4 days and average it out to see how many kcal you are eating each day to maintain, then slash that number by 250-500 kcal/day and you'll start to lose weight nicely. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17727 Posts
On July 07 2014 16:32 L_Master wrote: You're close. Probably around 70kg your abs will start to show nicely, and 65 or so might be like 4% BF style shredded. Each individual is different of course. And okay, if you intend to use running like that...that's not a bad use. Just make sure if you are counting calories that you're honest with yourself in assessing your portion sizes. A good way to do it is just base of right now, since you are holding weight. Track what you eat over 3-4 days and average it out to see how many kcal you are eating each day to maintain, then slash that number by 250-500 kcal/day and you'll start to lose weight nicely. If the guy is 1.81m and he weighed 65 kg the only thing he'll be seeing is his own ribs... | ||
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
I can tell you that sports doesn't make a difference at all. It was easier to maintain the six-pack when I didn't do ANY sports for one year due to injury. The only good thing is that if you have lots of muscles, then these muscles will burn additional energy, even at rest. It's really all about the diet. If I eat a whole chicken two days in a row, my six-pack will be gone 3-4 days later. | ||
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Daswollvieh
5553 Posts
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HaRuHi
1220 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On July 07 2014 17:31 Ilikestarcraft wrote: If the guy is 1.81m and he weighed 65 kg the only thing he'll be seeing is his own ribs... Eh yea, I miss thought. 1.8m is closer to 5'11". Was thinking it was closer to 5'8" for some reason. 1.81 and 65 kg would be a very slender build, though I'd still hardly call it seeing ribs. Ribs territory, aka marathon lean/light tends to be when you start going below weight = height in inches x 1.9 or so. | ||
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
Six packs are comically easy to get; people aren't lying when they say that six packs are made in the kitchen. | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
? looks pretty cool but only if you have some bars like that! im doing beginners dragonflags (you just need a flat bench) and will be able to do hanging legraises too (hanging from under some stairs) ... maybe once the doms goes away | ||
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
On July 08 2014 09:53 FFGenerations wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39KruH3lxuM ? looks pretty cool but only if you have some bars like that! im doing beginners dragonflags (you just need a flat bench) and will be able to do hanging legraises too (hanging from under some stairs) ... maybe once the doms goes away You can do them on the ground, too. Not exactly like that, of course, but it's how I did them. I was able to phase out dedicated core work for superior alternatives long before I outgrew pikes on the ground. | ||
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MarlieChurphy
United States2063 Posts
Also something like 90% of men you see in competitions, models, athletes, etc are on some form of gear. You can literally gain more muscles sitting on the couch taking T than you can busting your ass with a PT at the gym 5-6 days a week. | ||
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lisward
Singapore959 Posts
On July 09 2014 10:12 MarlieChurphy wrote: It's mostly genetics. more specifically, where some guy's bodies store their fat for first in last out kind of thing. Also something like 90% of men you see in competitions, models, athletes, etc are on some form of gear. You can literally gain more muscles sitting on the couch taking T than you can busting your ass with a PT at the gym 5-6 days a week. Good genetics helps a person reach a fitness goal quicker and also become a better elite athlete, but really only 1% of the population ever reaches the point where they're at their limits. A person with 'bad genetics' may not be winning an Olympia or a powerlifting title anytime soon, but he still can he strong/ have a good physique. Just takes dedication, time and education. | ||
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Xyik
Canada728 Posts
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