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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 06 2014 04:44 GMT
#21
wait, in the US, they look at grade 9 marks for entering college or university? Oo; Up here, it's mostly grade 12 marks and some grade 11 ones if the grade 12 ones aren't finalized yet but scholarships etc... are based around grade 12 marks. Why do you think you're completely screwed? Because of that one year?

Also, why not just go to another Top 10 or 15 college (or w/e the range is). As DarkPlasmaBall mentioned, college or university is what you make out of it. Even if you don't get into a top one, you can still have a wonderful experience and gain lots of knowledge from whichever one you end up with. It's all up to you to make the university or college experience the best it is.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44312 Posts
July 06 2014 05:28 GMT
#22
On July 06 2014 13:44 BigFan wrote:
wait, in the US, they look at grade 9 marks for entering college or university? Oo; Up here, it's mostly grade 12 marks and some grade 11 ones if the grade 12 ones aren't finalized yet but scholarships etc... are based around grade 12 marks. Why do you think you're completely screwed? Because of that one year?


9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th all technically make up your GPA here, although colleges do care more about your later grades than your earlier ones, especially if you demonstrate improvement (and the difficulty of the classes you choose to take, e.g., an honors/ AP class over a regular class). But there are so many other variables to consider during college admissions (standardized test scores, personal essays, recommendations, are you well-rounded with a job and sports and community service, etc.) that doing bad in 9th grade almost certainly has a negligible effect in the grand scheme of things.

Also, why not just go to another Top 10 or 15 college (or w/e the range is). As DarkPlasmaBall mentioned, college or university is what you make out of it. Even if you don't get into a top one, you can still have a wonderful experience and gain lots of knowledge from whichever one you end up with. It's all up to you to make the university or college experience the best it is.


I would venture to say that the biggest misconception about college (for high schoolers worrying about admissions) is that the university you end up going to matters more than the effort you put into your experience.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
zf
Profile Joined April 2011
231 Posts
July 06 2014 11:07 GMT
#23
You'll get over it. My sister had her heart set on a big name university, and went to an excellent, but not nationally prestigious liberal arts college. Two years later, she's happy with where she ended up and can't think of herself anywhere else.

School name helps for certain things - entry level jobs, professional schools, etc. - but how you do in university also matters tremendously.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
July 06 2014 11:43 GMT
#24
I think it's more of what you make of it, rather than what university it is. If you work hard in a university that's not well known, you will learn more than if you don't work that much in one of the most famous universities.
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 13:21:39
July 06 2014 13:19 GMT
#25
On July 06 2014 11:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 11:13 ill_mind wrote:
I guess you guys are right. It's just that to be honest, I have no idea where I want to go, or what I want to do. My passions are playing SC2, coding, doing graphic design, that sort of stuff, but I have no idea how those can intertwine since I love them all pretty equally. I don't know what direction to go or what to do.


One of the nice things about freshman year of college is that you have time to explore novel courses. Take a coding or graphic design course, but indulge yourself in other interesting classes too



That's the best thing I've ever heard about the American university system.

Seriously, in Germany you just pick a subject and you don't have any courses unrelated to it.
Picked the wrong one? Okay, you have one more shot. Second one isn't yours either? Well, you won't get any funding after just one year of uni.

That's probably one of the reasons why we have like two universities in the international top 50 rating.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44312 Posts
July 06 2014 13:37 GMT
#26
On July 06 2014 22:19 SixStrings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 11:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:13 ill_mind wrote:
I guess you guys are right. It's just that to be honest, I have no idea where I want to go, or what I want to do. My passions are playing SC2, coding, doing graphic design, that sort of stuff, but I have no idea how those can intertwine since I love them all pretty equally. I don't know what direction to go or what to do.


One of the nice things about freshman year of college is that you have time to explore novel courses. Take a coding or graphic design course, but indulge yourself in other interesting classes too



That's the best thing I've ever heard about the American university system.

Seriously, in Germany you just pick a subject and you don't have any courses unrelated to it.
Picked the wrong one? Okay, you have one more shot. Second one isn't yours either? Well, you won't get any funding after just one year of uni.

That's probably one of the reasons why we have like two universities in the international top 50 rating.


I know a lot of people aren't too happy about the idea of having general education requirements, but I think it's rather important, considering anywhere from 20-50% of college students enter into university as Undecided/ No Major, and 75% of students change their major at least once before graduating (http://dus.psu.edu/mentor/2013/06/disconnect-choosing-major/).

Some people find it to be a hassle if they have to take a few unrelated courses, but I find it to be a convenient way to explore classes you might not otherwise consider, and I also think it makes you more of a well-rounded individual.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
July 06 2014 13:39 GMT
#27
Yeah, being a well-rounded individual isn't really what German universities facilitate, because the market calls for specialists.
Sox03
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Germany55 Posts
July 06 2014 13:50 GMT
#28
Well i kinda disagree with you..
Here in Munich you can choose a lot of coursed that are not directly related to your subject and/or even write your thesis at other departments (esp. in physics and engineering)
And yes you wont get funding but you wont pay more than 500€ each semester in Germany wich is a joke compared to other countries (afaik). Imo the biggest reason that we have so few top universities is that all Max Planck and Fraunhofer Institutes are pretty much seperated from our universities and that they just have less money to spend...
But im not completely sure why exactly they are rated rather poorly... I know some people who went to MIT and stuff but it seems like there is no big difference in whats being taught (at least thats what they say)
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
July 06 2014 14:20 GMT
#29
Well, unless you have rich parents, not getting funding is basically the same as not being able to go to any decent uni.

Have fun paying for a room in Munich or Heidelberg while studying full time.
Sox03
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Germany55 Posts
July 06 2014 15:07 GMT
#30
Yes thats true but what i wanted to say is that youre not that bad off over here compared to a lot of other countries (from what ive heard)
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44312 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 15:14:09
July 06 2014 15:10 GMT
#31
On July 07 2014 00:07 Sox03 wrote:
Yes thats true but what i wanted to say is that youre not that bad off over here compared to a lot of other countries (from what ive heard)


Yeahhh in America the average tuition has been steadily increasing per year. Now it's something like $20-25K per year on average.
http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=76
http://www.collegedata.com/cs/content/content_payarticle_tmpl.jhtml?articleId=10064

EDIT: Apparently the conversion is that $20,000 equals about 28,665 German marks. Per year for four years >.>
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
July 06 2014 15:22 GMT
#32
I'll make sure to keep my mouth shut when I study at Berkeley for a term for free next year.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 06 2014 17:26 GMT
#33
On July 06 2014 09:35 ill_mind wrote:
I got an around about 2.9 or 3.0 gpa on a 4.0 scale in the IB programme.

GPA in the IB? What?

The IB cares about final/predicted final grades, GPA is for systems without standardized testing.
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 17:46:40
July 06 2014 17:41 GMT
#34
You will always have security with just about any of the other top 25 universities in the nation, I feel.

On top of that, my education has almost nothing to do with what I do for a living, quite the contrary, it is actually considered an impediment in some situations.

I studied Chinese Language and Literature for my undergraduate degree. I teach English in Taiwan and the school that I work for doesn't like hiring teachers that speak Chinese in the classroom because really good English teachers don't need to speak Chinese in order to teach English as a second language (strange concept to someone not familiar with this career line, I know).

My advice to you is apply to a school that you really really genuinely like (for whatever reason - being it is ranked #1 in the world for _______ majors, you like the place where it is located, etc. etc.). Focus more on building your social network at said school. If you plan to go on to study a master's degree / Ph D. at another place anywhere in the world, it will help you greatly because you have friends in that place, and they might be able to help you find jobs / internships relative to the career that you choose. Take advantage of study abroad programs to extend social networking.

EDIT: Think of it this way - only 200 people can get in to grandmaster's league per server. There will always be at least 200 players better than you (unless you are already in GM like iNControL or Destiny, or Nathanias or MaximusBlack, etc. etc.). Point is, there is almost always going to be someone that's better than you. Do what you can do to make the best of your situation right now, because to be honest your situation is a lot better than mine was at the end of high school.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
July 06 2014 17:51 GMT
#35
Dear lord is this thread for real? You're only in high school and you already sound like a 25 year old law school gunner. You need to relax and grow up a little, chasing prestige is a never ending cycle that'll never make you happy. I know so many lawyers who graduated from top Ivies working in NYC V10 law firms who are still miserable and desperate for external approval. I think its a sad reflection of our society that kids these days have to create a fake persona for themselves to get into a "top" college, even when they have no idea what they really want to do nor understand the true cost of spending thousands of dollars to get a degree.
EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 18:11:43
July 06 2014 18:10 GMT
#36
freshman in college > freshman in high school. Try not to freak about your freshman college year
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HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 20:07:52
July 06 2014 19:57 GMT
#37
Welcome to the gutter. You left the royal road my friend.

First off, apply to harvard, to yale, to princeton. It will be a 99.9% no, that is still less than a 100% no for not applying, maybe the admission officer that handles your file will be drunk that day and makes a cross in the wrong box. As for prestige and a fun life and the feeling of being special that television suggest to you as the most normal thing in the world. What you feel right now is how it is slowly taken away from you with age.

Most people wisen up, as most people did in this thread. They have ok lifes, nothing that ever is going to be written about or made into a movie, but defnitly a nice life to live, with plenty of money and decency.

Most people only really shine once or twice in there life and you better shine bright when your time is comming. It is approaching fast, first off, don't worry, if you miss it, you can still go somewhere okish and get a good job, but if you wanna shine, better go crazy.

Be honest to yourself, you don't have to tell anyone, but tell yourself what you really want. Maybe it will feel strange to ask for it, maybe you do not feel qualified and feel like you have no permission to ask, but right now you are young, how would you have all the experiences and qualifications to become if you are not already. So ask for it and keep in mind people will be generous towards your plea since you are young.

As for admission, if you have a state championship won, or created a indi movie that won some award or got first place at a science fair with a computer game you programmed, those thing show that you have direction and weight just as much as good grades. Even lead roles in school plays, selfwritten songs on youtube with 10.000+ views...show passion, if your passion really is sc2, better get grandmaster and win some tournament and explain why this is something only 200 people, only 100 people per continent have ever achieved.

Honestly, if you want it, you might still not get it, but to even have a chance at what you want start working till you drop fucking dead.

Cheers and have a nice life,
hope you take your chance to shine
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
July 06 2014 20:48 GMT
#38
On July 07 2014 00:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 00:07 Sox03 wrote:
Yes thats true but what i wanted to say is that youre not that bad off over here compared to a lot of other countries (from what ive heard)


Yeahhh in America the average tuition has been steadily increasing per year. Now it's something like $20-25K per year on average.
http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=76
http://www.collegedata.com/cs/content/content_payarticle_tmpl.jhtml?articleId=10064

EDIT: Apparently the conversion is that $20,000 equals about 28,665 German marks. Per year for four years >.>



Have you heard about that new international currency called the Euro?
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
July 06 2014 21:03 GMT
#39
On July 07 2014 05:48 SixStrings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 00:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 07 2014 00:07 Sox03 wrote:
Yes thats true but what i wanted to say is that youre not that bad off over here compared to a lot of other countries (from what ive heard)


Yeahhh in America the average tuition has been steadily increasing per year. Now it's something like $20-25K per year on average.
http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=76
http://www.collegedata.com/cs/content/content_payarticle_tmpl.jhtml?articleId=10064

EDIT: Apparently the conversion is that $20,000 equals about 28,665 German marks. Per year for four years >.>



Have you heard about that new international currency called the Euro?


Oh, right. That's the new name for the Deutschmark, right? (I want to kappa so hard right now.)
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
ill_mind
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Canada9 Posts
July 06 2014 21:20 GMT
#40
On July 07 2014 02:26 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 09:35 ill_mind wrote:
I got an around about 2.9 or 3.0 gpa on a 4.0 scale in the IB programme.

GPA in the IB? What?

The IB cares about final/predicted final grades, GPA is for systems without standardized testing.



Hehe sorry for the misconception. In grade 9 and 10, in pre-IB, courses still differ very slightly from the standard level subjects you take in Academic (to non-Canadians, Academic is like "normal" subjects).

So in gr 9 I got a 2.9ish GPA, and then it improved from there on. I ended up doing well in gr 10 and 11, still have first semester of gr 12 to go and I'm done.
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