Also, why not just go to another Top 10 or 15 college (or w/e the range is). As DarkPlasmaBall mentioned, college or university is what you make out of it. Even if you don't get into a top one, you can still have a wonderful experience and gain lots of knowledge from whichever one you end up with. It's all up to you to make the university or college experience the best it is.
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
Also, why not just go to another Top 10 or 15 college (or w/e the range is). As DarkPlasmaBall mentioned, college or university is what you make out of it. Even if you don't get into a top one, you can still have a wonderful experience and gain lots of knowledge from whichever one you end up with. It's all up to you to make the university or college experience the best it is. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44312 Posts
On July 06 2014 13:44 BigFan wrote: wait, in the US, they look at grade 9 marks for entering college or university? Oo; Up here, it's mostly grade 12 marks and some grade 11 ones if the grade 12 ones aren't finalized yet but scholarships etc... are based around grade 12 marks. Why do you think you're completely screwed? Because of that one year? 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th all technically make up your GPA here, although colleges do care more about your later grades than your earlier ones, especially if you demonstrate improvement (and the difficulty of the classes you choose to take, e.g., an honors/ AP class over a regular class). But there are so many other variables to consider during college admissions (standardized test scores, personal essays, recommendations, are you well-rounded with a job and sports and community service, etc.) that doing bad in 9th grade almost certainly has a negligible effect in the grand scheme of things. Also, why not just go to another Top 10 or 15 college (or w/e the range is). As DarkPlasmaBall mentioned, college or university is what you make out of it. Even if you don't get into a top one, you can still have a wonderful experience and gain lots of knowledge from whichever one you end up with. It's all up to you to make the university or college experience the best it is. I would venture to say that the biggest misconception about college (for high schoolers worrying about admissions) is that the university you end up going to matters more than the effort you put into your experience. | ||
zf
231 Posts
School name helps for certain things - entry level jobs, professional schools, etc. - but how you do in university also matters tremendously. | ||
Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
On July 06 2014 11:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: One of the nice things about freshman year of college is that you have time to explore novel courses. Take a coding or graphic design course, but indulge yourself in other interesting classes too ![]() That's the best thing I've ever heard about the American university system. Seriously, in Germany you just pick a subject and you don't have any courses unrelated to it. Picked the wrong one? Okay, you have one more shot. Second one isn't yours either? Well, you won't get any funding after just one year of uni. That's probably one of the reasons why we have like two universities in the international top 50 rating. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44312 Posts
On July 06 2014 22:19 SixStrings wrote: That's the best thing I've ever heard about the American university system. Seriously, in Germany you just pick a subject and you don't have any courses unrelated to it. Picked the wrong one? Okay, you have one more shot. Second one isn't yours either? Well, you won't get any funding after just one year of uni. That's probably one of the reasons why we have like two universities in the international top 50 rating. I know a lot of people aren't too happy about the idea of having general education requirements, but I think it's rather important, considering anywhere from 20-50% of college students enter into university as Undecided/ No Major, and 75% of students change their major at least once before graduating (http://dus.psu.edu/mentor/2013/06/disconnect-choosing-major/). Some people find it to be a hassle if they have to take a few unrelated courses, but I find it to be a convenient way to explore classes you might not otherwise consider, and I also think it makes you more of a well-rounded individual. | ||
SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
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Sox03
Germany55 Posts
Here in Munich you can choose a lot of coursed that are not directly related to your subject and/or even write your thesis at other departments (esp. in physics and engineering) And yes you wont get funding but you wont pay more than 500€ each semester in Germany wich is a joke compared to other countries (afaik). Imo the biggest reason that we have so few top universities is that all Max Planck and Fraunhofer Institutes are pretty much seperated from our universities and that they just have less money to spend... But im not completely sure why exactly they are rated rather poorly... I know some people who went to MIT and stuff but it seems like there is no big difference in whats being taught (at least thats what they say) | ||
SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
Have fun paying for a room in Munich or Heidelberg while studying full time. | ||
Sox03
Germany55 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44312 Posts
On July 07 2014 00:07 Sox03 wrote: Yes thats true but what i wanted to say is that youre not that bad off over here compared to a lot of other countries (from what ive heard) Yeahhh in America the average tuition has been steadily increasing per year. Now it's something like $20-25K per year on average. http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=76 http://www.collegedata.com/cs/content/content_payarticle_tmpl.jhtml?articleId=10064 EDIT: Apparently the conversion is that $20,000 equals about 28,665 German marks. Per year for four years >.> | ||
SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On July 06 2014 09:35 ill_mind wrote: I got an around about 2.9 or 3.0 gpa on a 4.0 scale in the IB programme. GPA in the IB? What? The IB cares about final/predicted final grades, GPA is for systems without standardized testing. | ||
BreAKerTV
Taiwan1658 Posts
On top of that, my education has almost nothing to do with what I do for a living, quite the contrary, it is actually considered an impediment in some situations. I studied Chinese Language and Literature for my undergraduate degree. I teach English in Taiwan and the school that I work for doesn't like hiring teachers that speak Chinese in the classroom because really good English teachers don't need to speak Chinese in order to teach English as a second language (strange concept to someone not familiar with this career line, I know). My advice to you is apply to a school that you really really genuinely like (for whatever reason - being it is ranked #1 in the world for _______ majors, you like the place where it is located, etc. etc.). Focus more on building your social network at said school. If you plan to go on to study a master's degree / Ph D. at another place anywhere in the world, it will help you greatly because you have friends in that place, and they might be able to help you find jobs / internships relative to the career that you choose. Take advantage of study abroad programs to extend social networking. EDIT: Think of it this way - only 200 people can get in to grandmaster's league per server. There will always be at least 200 players better than you (unless you are already in GM like iNControL or Destiny, or Nathanias or MaximusBlack, etc. etc.). Point is, there is almost always going to be someone that's better than you. Do what you can do to make the best of your situation right now, because to be honest your situation is a lot better than mine was at the end of high school. | ||
iamho
United States3347 Posts
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EJK
United States1302 Posts
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HaRuHi
1220 Posts
First off, apply to harvard, to yale, to princeton. It will be a 99.9% no, that is still less than a 100% no for not applying, maybe the admission officer that handles your file will be drunk that day and makes a cross in the wrong box. As for prestige and a fun life and the feeling of being special that television suggest to you as the most normal thing in the world. What you feel right now is how it is slowly taken away from you with age. Most people wisen up, as most people did in this thread. They have ok lifes, nothing that ever is going to be written about or made into a movie, but defnitly a nice life to live, with plenty of money and decency. Most people only really shine once or twice in there life and you better shine bright when your time is comming. It is approaching fast, first off, don't worry, if you miss it, you can still go somewhere okish and get a good job, but if you wanna shine, better go crazy. Be honest to yourself, you don't have to tell anyone, but tell yourself what you really want. Maybe it will feel strange to ask for it, maybe you do not feel qualified and feel like you have no permission to ask, but right now you are young, how would you have all the experiences and qualifications to become if you are not already. So ask for it and keep in mind people will be generous towards your plea since you are young. As for admission, if you have a state championship won, or created a indi movie that won some award or got first place at a science fair with a computer game you programmed, those thing show that you have direction and weight just as much as good grades. Even lead roles in school plays, selfwritten songs on youtube with 10.000+ views...show passion, if your passion really is sc2, better get grandmaster and win some tournament and explain why this is something only 200 people, only 100 people per continent have ever achieved. Honestly, if you want it, you might still not get it, but to even have a chance at what you want start working till you drop fucking dead. Cheers and have a nice life, hope you take your chance to shine | ||
SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
On July 07 2014 00:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Yeahhh in America the average tuition has been steadily increasing per year. Now it's something like $20-25K per year on average. http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=76 http://www.collegedata.com/cs/content/content_payarticle_tmpl.jhtml?articleId=10064 EDIT: Apparently the conversion is that $20,000 equals about 28,665 German marks. Per year for four years >.> Have you heard about that new international currency called the Euro? | ||
Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
On July 07 2014 05:48 SixStrings wrote: Have you heard about that new international currency called the Euro? Oh, right. That's the new name for the Deutschmark, right? (I want to kappa so hard right now.) | ||
ill_mind
Canada9 Posts
On July 07 2014 02:26 Dfgj wrote: GPA in the IB? What? The IB cares about final/predicted final grades, GPA is for systems without standardized testing. Hehe sorry for the misconception. In grade 9 and 10, in pre-IB, courses still differ very slightly from the standard level subjects you take in Academic (to non-Canadians, Academic is like "normal" subjects). So in gr 9 I got a 2.9ish GPA, and then it improved from there on. I ended up doing well in gr 10 and 11, still have first semester of gr 12 to go and I'm done. | ||
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