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Fumanchu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada669 Posts
April 25 2014 10:46 GMT
#1
A couple of nights ago I was working as normal in my room when someone entered my room to talk to me. I had this giant white paddle on my shoulder that I use to stir around chocolate to keep it for sticking and help move along the machines and stuff. Well as I'm walking over to the door to see what this guy wants, I swing the paddle down from shoulder to place it on these boxes. I'm a taller guy, 6'3 (191 cm), and when I dropped the paddle from my shoulder it accidentally hits the fire pipe right at where the nozzle is. Well the whole thing bursts and a shit ton of water comes pouring into the room. And because it's the fire nozzle, the alarm goes off and we have to evacuate the entire building. Not only that but two fire trucks rolled in, because it's mandatory to have them offically clear the zone stating that it's safe to return to work.

So after standing for an hour in the parking lot, all the employees get to return inside and we get a first hand look at the damage. All the product is ruined. We had to box it off, and dump it. And because the water in the pipe was mixed with some chemical to put out fires faster, we have to shut down not only my room, but the two adjacent rooms so that we can wash everything down.
My union rep comes in, asks me what happens and tells me that I'm going to get written up, but overall not to worry too much. The guy that was in the doorway was a firsthand eye witness, and he vouches for me in the accidental nature of my screw up.

I'm immediately called in to the supervisor's office and Bill, a supervisor who I've known for a long time and we both respect each other, gets my statement and the statement of everyone else in the area.
After everyone clears out of the office I say to Bill, "Hey man just tell me straight up, off the record, should I start looking for another job?".
He sticks out one of his hands and slaps me on the shoulder with the other and says,"I know you're freaking out right now, but don't worry, you won't be fired, I promise".
So I head home, extremely shaken, and a little relieved, but still feeling really lousy for screwing up so big.

Well last night, before my shift starts, Bill and a couple of union reps call me into his office.

Oh God, Bill's face looked absolutely miserable. He was a white as a sheet, and looked like he was going to throw up. They tell me that I ended up causing almost 100,000 dollars worth of damage. Not only that, I was suspended for the night and I have a meeting with the CEO and HR the following morning. On my way out of the office, Bill pulls me aside and said, "Forget what I told you before".

Even in my predicament I still felt for Bill there. He's a guy who stands by his word, real old fashioned, and now he has to be in the room while they fire the guy that he shook hands with and promised last night that he wouldn't get fired.

I'm smart with my money, and I've got enough saved up for six months, which is more than enough time for me to find a new job. My lifestyle is gonna take a hit, but I can deal with that. It's just really crummy that this is the way I'm going to be leaving the company. They've always treated me right, and I've always repaid them by doing my job well. Just sucks it has to end up like this.

On my way out some of the older employees were telling me stories of people who screwed up worse, and the continued to keep working. Or they got fired, but then called back at a later date. I'm not holding out for that though.

Man alive, I'm just scrolling through the ads on craigslist. The only thing worse than working is not working.

My meeting is in 6 hours. I'm kind of calm about it now. No not calm, more like resigned. There's nothing else I can do except wait for the axe to fall. Pretty shitty, May was three paycheck month too.


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SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
April 25 2014 10:58 GMT
#2
Man
I was reading your other blog the other day and I'm so sorry. Try to stay strong and push through this. Sometimes we grow a lot when we go through emotionally draining times.
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puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3126 Posts
April 25 2014 11:15 GMT
#3
Damn that is so lame.
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Cauld
Profile Joined February 2010
United States350 Posts
April 25 2014 11:35 GMT
#4
Man, that sucks. Everybody makes mistakes, so don't be too hard on yourself. If they don't feel they can get past a simple accident that's on them and not you. Don't let this define you. I know it's hard to imagine now, but one day you'll look back and laugh about this. Move on and best of luck!
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
April 25 2014 11:43 GMT
#5
I'm guessing you work at some kind of chocolate factory ?
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
April 25 2014 11:44 GMT
#6
Not much else to say that hasn't been said. Shitty situation, hope you find a new job quickly.
rpddropshot
Profile Joined March 2011
United States82 Posts
April 25 2014 11:46 GMT
#7
Do they ever give people 5 days off or something there? If this is your first major incident maybe they'll do that? Its good that you understand Bill's situation, I did the same exact thing just the other day. Told an employee their mistake would be ok then found out the next day it wasn't. It was really embarrassing to have to go back and tell them they were in trouble.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
April 25 2014 11:51 GMT
#8
I know this is terrible, but for some reason I found the story hilarious. The big white paddle for stirring chocolate hit a nozzle and flooded the whole factory and ruined all the chocolate xDDDD

I mean, obviously, shutting down production for a whole day is really bad for any factory, but that sounds like something out of a movie. I wish my screw-ups could be as epic as this. It'll make for a fun story to tell at social gatherings and whatnot. Unless you end up getting in serious trouble.

Then that will suck ass.

I'm crossing my fingers that all that will come of this is that you only get fired. I would imagine they would have some kind of insurance to cover the financial damage though. If they try to make you pay for it, you should probably just bury your money in a treasure chest. Also, I wouldn't put this particular company's phone number down as a reference for future employment, but I think that almost goes without saying.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
April 25 2014 12:47 GMT
#9
Ouch!
hoping for the best for you (although you never know what that actually is...) GL man.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4988 Posts
April 25 2014 13:09 GMT
#10
Having read your previous blog about struggling with nightshift I'm not too surprised about this story.
Mistakes are much more likely to happen when you're on lack of sleep.
I'm sorry for your misfortune and best of luck finding a new job.
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Epishade
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2267 Posts
April 25 2014 13:27 GMT
#11
Holy shit. What a situation!
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lantz
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States762 Posts
April 25 2014 13:36 GMT
#12
what company was this?

I thought all chocolate factories were semi automated (at least for the stiring part)

Anyway, come to Hershey, PA !~
KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 14:05:37
April 25 2014 14:03 GMT
#13
"I am bad and that is good, I will never be good and that's not bad, there's no one I'd rather be than me" Wreck-It Ralph 2012

flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 25 2014 14:23 GMT
#14
I'm sorry for you man. Stay strong.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
April 25 2014 14:38 GMT
#15
Wow what a joke
I too read your blog the other day and was intrguied by it to then this happen. God dammit, live sucks sometimes.

HOWEVER, imo you fight this, unless in your contract it states that if you cause x amount of damage you will be fired surely they cannot fire you on the spot for it? It was a pure accident, not being stupid or neglect or whatever. Just a pure freak accident?
If i was you id reject them firing you and seek some free legal advice to see if you can fight it. By the sounds of it your a good employee with no track record of any bullshit before and this 1 mistake, which might be a huge one but it was a sheer accident, who people can vouch for it was.
I work in payroll/hr department into one at my office for about 500 employee's of the top 3 biggest tyre company in the UK and well we have people claim against us for wrongful dismissal for 10000000x worst than this. Aka a guy wrote of a van 3 times, we sacked him. Then he filled a claim he was disabled and we dismissed him for being disabled LOL.
Anyway back to the point, i personally think you would have a case for wrongful dismissal if you challenged it and would seek legal advice (free of course).

GL though, hope you find a new job if you choose to do that.
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
April 25 2014 15:14 GMT
#16
On April 25 2014 23:38 Pandemona wrote:
Wow what a joke
I too read your blog the other day and was intrguied by it to then this happen. God dammit, live sucks sometimes.

HOWEVER, imo you fight this, unless in your contract it states that if you cause x amount of damage you will be fired surely they cannot fire you on the spot for it? It was a pure accident, not being stupid or neglect or whatever. Just a pure freak accident?
If i was you id reject them firing you and seek some free legal advice to see if you can fight it. By the sounds of it your a good employee with no track record of any bullshit before and this 1 mistake, which might be a huge one but it was a sheer accident, who people can vouch for it was.
I work in payroll/hr department into one at my office for about 500 employee's of the top 3 biggest tyre company in the UK and well we have people claim against us for wrongful dismissal for 10000000x worst than this. Aka a guy wrote of a van 3 times, we sacked him. Then he filled a claim he was disabled and we dismissed him for being disabled LOL.
Anyway back to the point, i personally think you would have a case for wrongful dismissal if you challenged it and would seek legal advice (free of course).

GL though, hope you find a new job if you choose to do that.

I doubt you can claim wrongful dismissal for being tall. It just seems like 100k damage is a lot and they'd rather not take the risk of something similar happening (as unlikely as that would be), that or they need a scapegoat. Really sucks for both parties. Anyway, you seem to have a good attitude, hope you get a better job asap. Hopefully that manager can give you a good reference (omitting the incident) to make up for the broken promise.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
April 25 2014 16:14 GMT
#17
Why exactly does that thing break apart when you accidentally hit it? You weren't swinging a hammer, were you?
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r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1056 Posts
April 25 2014 16:50 GMT
#18
They should have let you work out. You would have been more focused.

Joking aside, don't be too sad about it, it was a nights job and i came to the conclusion, that the extra money isn't worth it. It would have taken its toll over time. It sure did for me.

Wish you the best for your future! Keep us up, your blogs are a good read.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
April 25 2014 16:55 GMT
#19
Think he's in his meeting now by the timestamps, maybe things won't turn out as bad as it sounds? :O
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r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1056 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 17:39:04
April 25 2014 17:26 GMT
#20
Yeah, but the HR person being there is a big sign. Hopefully they don't try to fuck him. Scapegoating with monetary consequences or shit like that... I got no clue of Canadian laws in that matter.

Got my fingers crossed for you Fu!
wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
April 25 2014 17:35 GMT
#21
On April 25 2014 23:38 Pandemona wrote:
Wow what a joke
I too read your blog the other day and was intrguied by it to then this happen. God dammit, live sucks sometimes.

HOWEVER, imo you fight this, unless in your contract it states that if you cause x amount of damage you will be fired surely they cannot fire you on the spot for it? It was a pure accident, not being stupid or neglect or whatever. Just a pure freak accident?
If i was you id reject them firing you and seek some free legal advice to see if you can fight it. By the sounds of it your a good employee with no track record of any bullshit before and this 1 mistake, which might be a huge one but it was a sheer accident, who people can vouch for it was.
I work in payroll/hr department into one at my office for about 500 employee's of the top 3 biggest tyre company in the UK and well we have people claim against us for wrongful dismissal for 10000000x worst than this. Aka a guy wrote of a van 3 times, we sacked him. Then he filled a claim he was disabled and we dismissed him for being disabled LOL.
Anyway back to the point, i personally think you would have a case for wrongful dismissal if you challenged it and would seek legal advice (free of course).

GL though, hope you find a new job if you choose to do that.

I never liked the idea of challenging a corporation that generates billions of dollars in revenue. I just can't imagine that it'll ever turn out good for a plaintiff who chooses to do so. Their lawyers will find something wrong with what he was doing that night and say that the damages he caused were a direct result of said negligent behavior.
lantz
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States762 Posts
April 25 2014 18:00 GMT
#22
if it's a big company, just bend over and take it ??

or you can grow a pair of balls and try anyway
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
April 25 2014 18:23 GMT
#23
On April 26 2014 03:00 lantz wrote:
if it's a big company, just bend over and take it ??

or you can grow a pair of balls and try anyway


A pair of balls + a shitton of cash for legal fees/attorney costs/etc.
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Fumanchu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada669 Posts
April 25 2014 18:31 GMT
#24
So I just got back home from getting fired. I have to say I feel a lot worse than I did previously. I guess there was still a small part of me that was hoping it wasn't going to happen.

They brought me in and sat me down, and got me to tell my side of what happened. And when I finished, they said that my story collaborated with what my co-workers had said. Then they asked me to leave the room so they could deliberate and come to a decision. As I was leaving the room, my boss, my head boss, says to me, "Don't worry, I know you're a good guy".

So I went outside and sat down, and waited while they talked in hush whispers for about 20 minutes. I started adding things up in my head. My story made sense with what others were saying, he called me a "good guy". Surely he wouldn't have said that if he was planning on firing me.

And then all of a sudden I heard this roaring laughter coming from the room. I could see through the narrow window that often accompanies doors, that my boss was holding his side from laughing so hard. I felt like an inch tall.

As they call me back in the HR rep is still wiping a grin off his face, and in very brief terms they tell me that although they concede it was an accident, it was also 100% caused because of me. Basically, 100,000 bucks of damage was caused and they needed someone to take the heat. Or at least that's the way it felt like to me.

As I stand up to leave the HR rep says, "Well, you've probably been fired like this before, so this shouldn't be too much for you".

Seriously? I'm already fired, and you feel like you have to give me some sort of parting shot?

And then, with this smirky small little smile he asks me if I have anything I wanted to add. I was absolutely fuming at this point, both with the laughter and his demeanor. I wanted to rip into him so badly, but all I ended up saying was, "Ya, I just wanted to say thanks for giving me this job, I think you guys are running a fantastic company and it was a real privilege working for you".

The union rep, who stayed silent during the whole thing, met me outside afterwards and told me he was going to file a grievance on my behalf, stating that I should get my job back but he didn't sound very optimistic.

So that's it then, I got fired today from the best job I've had to date. I sent out 12 e-mails scouring on craigslist, but I stopped when I got depressed after reading their job descriptions and their starting wages.
Easy doesnt fit into grownup life.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
April 25 2014 18:37 GMT
#25
That sucks man.

I claim no knowledge or expertise on who these things work, but if your union rep sounded like he was actually going to file a grievance and stuff and not just doing lip service you can maybe try working with him. Maybe if you won't get a job back but maybe you can get compensated in some other ways? Knowing nothing about you/your union, unions can sometimes be very influential and companies are more likely to take union complaints seriously.

Good luck :o
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 25 2014 19:05 GMT
#26
I'm so sorry to hear that. I saw the thread title but then read that you were going into a meeting and figured it was anticipation only to hear that you got fired The HR guy shouldn't have been laughing or making that comment, very distasteful considering what was going on. I'm sure you'll find another job in no time. How long have you been working there? Also, I agree with sheep. I would cooperate with the union rep since it may at least provide some closure (or at best get you the job back or some compensation). Best of luck and don't give up in the job hunt!
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
April 25 2014 19:09 GMT
#27
sorry man
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tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
April 25 2014 19:12 GMT
#28
I would of assumed the union would of been able to work with the company in order to keep your job. Essentially that's what they are there for. Accidents happen and even if it's huge the union should of been able to do something for you other than just filing a grievance. Still, I do feel bad and that is some shit luck.
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
April 25 2014 19:18 GMT
#29
If there was a water nozzle that was ready to blow by casual contact with a wooden paddle, it seems like it's the company's fault. You can't leave unsafe shit lying around and then blame the person who happened to spring the trap.
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ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
April 25 2014 19:47 GMT
#30
On April 26 2014 04:18 Jerubaal wrote:
If there was a water nozzle that was ready to blow by casual contact with a wooden paddle, it seems like it's the company's fault. You can't leave unsafe shit lying around and then blame the person who happened to spring the trap.


Ya, this is the part that I don't really get at all lol You just dropped something and pretty much ruined the whole place?
WTF kind of facility is this lol

This story sucks btw, feel really sh*tty for you... hope all goes well
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 25 2014 20:05 GMT
#31
As I stand up to leave the HR rep says, "Well, you've probably been fired like this before, so this shouldn't be too much for you".

Fucking dick. I would have been inclined to tell him to go fuck himself. I mean you're already fired. :/ ...that's the biggest piss-off of all.

I read your other blog as well, sorry dude. Freak accident, but by the sounds of it your supervisor is a nice guy and will hopefully still give you a personal reference. Best of luck with the hunt.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
April 25 2014 21:13 GMT
#32
UGHHHHHHHHHHH that sucks!

They didn't have to be a bunch of assholes, even that's what HR is basically, but laughing at you and saying you've probably been fired in a similar manner before is a bunch of bullshit.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
April 25 2014 21:45 GMT
#33
damn man sorry. sounds like the HR guy was a jackass.

gl in the job hunt!!
salito
Profile Joined May 2010
1647 Posts
April 25 2014 21:53 GMT
#34
are u srs

wow that sucks. good luck with the next one
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Pathology
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 22:03:13
April 25 2014 21:54 GMT
#35
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 26 2014 03:31 Fumanchu wrote:
So I just got back home from getting fired. I have to say I feel a lot worse than I did previously. I guess there was still a small part of me that was hoping it wasn't going to happen.

They brought me in and sat me down, and got me to tell my side of what happened. And when I finished, they said that my story collaborated with what my co-workers had said. Then they asked me to leave the room so they could deliberate and come to a decision. As I was leaving the room, my boss, my head boss, says to me, "Don't worry, I know you're a good guy".

So I went outside and sat down, and waited while they talked in hush whispers for about 20 minutes. I started adding things up in my head. My story made sense with what others were saying, he called me a "good guy". Surely he wouldn't have said that if he was planning on firing me.

And then all of a sudden I heard this roaring laughter coming from the room. I could see through the narrow window that often accompanies doors, that my boss was holding his side from laughing so hard. I felt like an inch tall.

As they call me back in the HR rep is still wiping a grin off his face, and in very brief terms they tell me that although they concede it was an accident, it was also 100% caused because of me. Basically, 100,000 bucks of damage was caused and they needed someone to take the heat. Or at least that's the way it felt like to me.

As I stand up to leave the HR rep says, "Well, you've probably been fired like this before, so this shouldn't be too much for you".

Seriously? I'm already fired, and you feel like you have to give me some sort of parting shot?



And then, with this smirky small little smile he asks me if I have anything I wanted to add. I was absolutely fuming at this point, both with the laughter and his demeanor. I wanted to rip into him so badly, but all I ended up saying was, "Ya, I just wanted to say thanks for giving me this job, I think you guys are running a fantastic company and it was a real privilege working for you".

The union rep, who stayed silent during the whole thing, met me outside afterwards and told me he was going to file a grievance on my behalf, stating that I should get my job back but he didn't sound very optimistic.

So that's it then, I got fired today from the best job I've had to date. I sent out 12 e-mails scouring on craigslist, but I stopped when I got depressed after reading their job descriptions and their starting wages.


I work for a union in Canada. We deal with all kinds of employers and members. We do not file grievances unless the member will get something out of it or it's a very important case in regards to legal precedence and it's do or die. If you're telling the truth about your positive work history there as well as the nature of the incident, an outside glance would say that you would have the chance at a cash settlement as a negative outcome and your job back as the best (and most likely) outcome. That's just at a glance. Also it depends on how far the case goes. If it goes to arbitration things can get spicy depending on the arbitrator. Don't give up hope yet... What Union/Local are you a part of?

P.S. the cash settlement is in relation to wages you could have been making since the date of your dismissal up until the date of settlement and/or arbitration.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
April 25 2014 22:20 GMT
#36
On April 26 2014 06:54 Pathology wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 26 2014 03:31 Fumanchu wrote:
So I just got back home from getting fired. I have to say I feel a lot worse than I did previously. I guess there was still a small part of me that was hoping it wasn't going to happen.

They brought me in and sat me down, and got me to tell my side of what happened. And when I finished, they said that my story collaborated with what my co-workers had said. Then they asked me to leave the room so they could deliberate and come to a decision. As I was leaving the room, my boss, my head boss, says to me, "Don't worry, I know you're a good guy".

So I went outside and sat down, and waited while they talked in hush whispers for about 20 minutes. I started adding things up in my head. My story made sense with what others were saying, he called me a "good guy". Surely he wouldn't have said that if he was planning on firing me.

And then all of a sudden I heard this roaring laughter coming from the room. I could see through the narrow window that often accompanies doors, that my boss was holding his side from laughing so hard. I felt like an inch tall.

As they call me back in the HR rep is still wiping a grin off his face, and in very brief terms they tell me that although they concede it was an accident, it was also 100% caused because of me. Basically, 100,000 bucks of damage was caused and they needed someone to take the heat. Or at least that's the way it felt like to me.

As I stand up to leave the HR rep says, "Well, you've probably been fired like this before, so this shouldn't be too much for you".

Seriously? I'm already fired, and you feel like you have to give me some sort of parting shot?



And then, with this smirky small little smile he asks me if I have anything I wanted to add. I was absolutely fuming at this point, both with the laughter and his demeanor. I wanted to rip into him so badly, but all I ended up saying was, "Ya, I just wanted to say thanks for giving me this job, I think you guys are running a fantastic company and it was a real privilege working for you".

The union rep, who stayed silent during the whole thing, met me outside afterwards and told me he was going to file a grievance on my behalf, stating that I should get my job back but he didn't sound very optimistic.

So that's it then, I got fired today from the best job I've had to date. I sent out 12 e-mails scouring on craigslist, but I stopped when I got depressed after reading their job descriptions and their starting wages.


I work for a union in Canada. We deal with all kinds of employers and members. We do not file grievances unless the member will get something out of it or it's a very important case in regards to legal precedence and it's do or die. If you're telling the truth about your positive work history there as well as the nature of the incident, an outside glance would say that you would have the chance at a cash settlement as a negative outcome and your job back as the best (and most likely) outcome. That's just at a glance. Also it depends on how far the case goes. If it goes to arbitration things can get spicy depending on the arbitrator. Don't give up hope yet... What Union/Local are you a part of?

P.S. the cash settlement is in relation to wages you could have been making since the date of your dismissal up until the date of settlement and/or arbitration.


Yes, listen to this guy. Hell i'd even push this. You got your line managers number, ring him/text him and make sure you keep up to date with what the fuck is going on. The way they treated you is like you were some child and acted like a bunch of cocks. I meet with these kinds of people in bank meetings for my company all the time, oh god they are a bunch of cocks. All sat their looking like Michael Douglas without a clue how anything works in the real world and just think out the basics. How will this make me money, how much will it cost me and how long does it take. Not anything else. When things go wrong they point the blame to everyone but themselves.
This is a freak accident, the boss of that factory for the company would have to just do a bit of, yeah sorry about that $100,000 order we fucked up on, i'll make it up by doing a double load (or something to windle the way out of it).
God this stuff winds me up so badly
All those people laughing are sat on probably $40-50k a year jobs or more and the real worker in the factory is getting fucked ;_;

/rant

Seriousness, try and persue this, you get money out of it if you win if not you get your job. Good luck in whatever you do, i'll keep an eye on your blogs. You might want to skip my posts as im just so angry for you.
What you said after they laughed at you also shows a lot of courage, im sure 90% of people when asked if anything you wanted to say after them laughing at you would of went ape shit. I would of played the sob story card probably and went, you guy think this is funny, i have a mortgage to pay for, a family to feed and your their laughing thinking this is a big joke? etcetc.
Oh well i need to stop. GL !!!
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Pathology
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 22:33:51
April 25 2014 22:32 GMT
#37
I wanted to wait for your response but instead I'm just going throw another note out there.

If you're currently working for Purdy's under an agreement with CEP

http://www.bcbargaining.ca/content/912/Purdys-Chocolates-2012-2016.pdf

you have a 7 day expiry date on filing for a grievance from the date of the event itself. You need to insure that your business rep files that grievance or at least lets the company know of their intention to file before 7 calendar days pass. After that you are screwed.

The golden rule of avoiding grievances as an employer is "follow progressive discipline".

The rules differ depending on who you're talking to but it usually consists of :

Verbal warning (documented on paper)
Written Warning
Suspension
Termination

There are usually stipulations on how far apart each of these steps must be but that's all fine print stuff. You were not given any of these presumably and unless there are extenuating clauses in the contract I linked above then you have every right to back-pay as well as your job back. If your rep tries to avoid the issue to keep his relationship with the company there are steps for that too...
No rest for the wicked
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
April 25 2014 22:47 GMT
#38
shitty union you got there.
There is no gradation of sanctions??
things shouldnt go from ''dude youre da bomb'' to ''you fucked up son, youre fired''


hope it sorts itself out and that you get a better job next week.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
April 25 2014 23:11 GMT
#39
wow... Im so sorry man.
I read your earlier blog and you sounded like you took your responsibility for the value of the material very seriously and it really sucks to hear that your fears about an accident came true

Im sure things will pick up for you, its good to see you have an optimistic attitude. Hang in there man!
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rpddropshot
Profile Joined March 2011
United States82 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 23:19:32
April 25 2014 23:15 GMT
#40
You definitely have to give the union rep a chance. People where I work have caused way more damage multiple times due to complete negligence and got their jobs back. Hopefully your union doesn't suck that bad. That being said I hope your looking for jobs on more than just craigslist..if you were able to work your way to a good job you should be able to find another one.
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11349 Posts
April 26 2014 00:11 GMT
#41
That really sucks. I got laid off recently and looking for work sucks.
On the other hand, after reading your other blog... maybe it's for the best? That job would drive me nuts, only being allowed a pen and knife... is there a danger for self-harm if that's all you are allowed? Blah. Maybe that union rep will pull through, but maybe something better will come up. Also- 27 and 25 companies. That's a lot of different jobs, nearly one per year if you started working at the age of 2...
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Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-26 02:44:40
April 26 2014 02:39 GMT
#42
I can't believe a company would arrange things in a way that someone dropping a box would cause 100k worth in losses.

You did fuck up and while it was an honest mistake I'd feel terrible about it, but you shouldn't feel much guilty I think, it's one of those sitations that everyone's at fault and sucks for everyone involved.

Still, I would point at the company that designing wathever u operated in such a way has a huge design flaw they might want to fix (while repeteadly apologizing for causing them 100k in loses :p), and that they might want to look in other parts of the company that could produce those liabilities in the future.

Edit: That said, I disagree with what The Union Guy and some other people with what they saying on this thread. I'd feel ashamed to "demand" some sort of cash compensation or threatening them to sue them for the dissmisal. I believe as a man you should own your mistakes and assume your responsabilities, and as you seem to feel guilty I think that's what you believe aswell.

Seek that you recieve fair terms for your depart (in case they want to fire you), but do not try to take advantage of the situation as some people here seem to suggest (i.e you can't be fired, etc)
Fumanchu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada669 Posts
April 26 2014 09:43 GMT
#43
Thanks guys for all your kind words and encouragement. I did end up getting in contact with my union rep, and I agreed to fight it somewhat. I really don't want to try to take any sort of civil action though. I managed to get Bill as a reference and when I phoned in, the big boss that called me a, "good guy", offered to give me a reference as well. I'm not too sure what to think of that.

It's been a roller coaster of emotions. I came home after getting fired with this really positive attitude. I was going to take what I learned from there and use it to make myself a better employee at my next job. I mean, I was miserable working there, my health was taking a brutal hit, and my social life was nil.

So I kept all of these things at the forefront of my mind as I started up networking again. And I was going along fine until a co-worker texted me, "Hey just heard what happened, that sucks, I'll miss you". And all of a sudden I felt super depressed. I don't know how to explain it. Maybe people who suffer from depression would be familiar with it. The only thing I can liken it to, is when I found out that this girl I once dated had been cheating on me. And this feeling lasted all day. I couldn't shake it no matter what.

And now I feel a little bit better. Not as great as I did when I got fired, not as lousy as I did when I heard from that co-worker. You know it's weird, I was making more money there then I ever made before, but I wasn't using that money for anything that useful.

I bought myself a giant plasma tv when my old one was just fine. I bought new furniture, new artwork, a new computer, thousands and thousands of dollars from Ikea, new sound system for my car, a TON of new clothes, suits and cologne and high tech gadgets, like a robot vacuum cleaner. I'm not saying that it's wrong to be buying these things in general, I'm just saying for me personally I got caught up in material things and lost sight of what was truly important to me.

Almost two years ago to date, I made a blog about how I was going to try and be an actor no matter what. Well, when I was poorer, every time I managed to scrape together a couple hundred bucks I would take some workshop class. Or an improv class. I was spending time at the library and going to open auditions at local universities. I was taking active steps to realizing a dream.

But when I was making a lot more money, there was always one more thing I wanted to get first. I always had "plans" to return to the theatrical world, but I really wasn't doing anything about it. So if there's one positive thing that derives from all of this, hopefully it means the return of the pursuit of my dream.

On April 26 2014 09:11 Falling wrote:
That really sucks. I got laid off recently and looking for work sucks.
On the other hand, after reading your other blog... maybe it's for the best? That job would drive me nuts, only being allowed a pen and knife... is there a danger for self-harm if that's all you are allowed? Blah. Maybe that union rep will pull through, but maybe something better will come up. Also- 27 and 25 companies. That's a lot of different jobs, nearly one per year if you started working at the age of 2...


Ya before working at Hershey, my longest job I held for six months. That was just one job. Other than that my average stay was around 3-4 months. I always had another job lined up before I quit though. Except this one job where my boss called me a piece of shit. I quit immediately then. I have two great references already from working construction a couple of summers while I was going to school, so I don't have to worry about that. But I job hopped around a lot because I felt there was no real reason to stay at these dreary jobs.
Easy doesnt fit into grownup life.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
April 26 2014 12:38 GMT
#44
Oh god, this exact story is mit absolute nightmare.

I was close to accidentally ripping off one of those fire sprinkler nozzles a couple of times already at the hotel where I work... That'd be an utter disaster...
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19346 Posts
April 26 2014 14:07 GMT
#45
Oh man. hope you get better. It really sucks how the universe just fucks you up.

And you were just two days from retirement.
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r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1056 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-26 18:01:24
April 26 2014 17:58 GMT
#46
You seem to take the best out of it and got the right attitude. Good luck to you!

I always start to get depressed when i'm applying for new jobs too. Was job hopping a bit as well for quite a while with some months of unemployment in between and when i see my CV, i can't but start to think "i sure wouldn't hire that guy!" The longest job i held was 3 years, so it's not as bad.
But what can i say, same as you: I don't like to take shit and i don't have to. In hospitality, from guests I can deal with it just fine, it's part of the job, though it basically never happened for me. I'm pro. From "superiors" on the other hand... Too many guys take too much shit and then asshole supervisors or whatever think they can do it to everybody. Well i'm always more than glad to teach them a lesson.

+ Show Spoiler +
I had a manager call me an idiot once, screaming in front of guests, without a real reason trust me. There was a girl involved, he wanted but i got. Well and over was time in England. I asked him to talk to me in the backoffice for a second (whatever dude, never in front of guests!), where I lost my temper a bit and it went something like "call me an idiot ever again and i'm gonna break your fucking nose, before i take the next plane home and you can do that shit job job yourself, do we understand each other!?". Really had to draw a line, I'm no ones trash can. And when i returned to the front desk, guests were smiling and nodding at me in silent agreement. He was a dick.
End of Story: I wasn't fired and he never complained about me. Quit a couple of weeks after that myself...
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
April 26 2014 19:33 GMT
#47
Its really nice how you realized all those things about focusing too much on material things in your latest post; maybe in some strange way this was actually a positive wake up call for you? Maybe years from now you will be acting and loving your life, and be thankful for this bizarre accident that occurred. At least I hope so. Also good call on not getting angry with that manager when she insulted you, it never leads to anything good. I hope you make it as an actor!! Team liquid will watch your stuff
Fumanchu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada669 Posts
April 26 2014 20:30 GMT
#48
I got a job interview on Monday for a landscaping apprentice. It's about half of what I used to make, but it seems like it could be interesting work. At least it will keep me afloat if I get it.
Easy doesnt fit into grownup life.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
April 26 2014 21:07 GMT
#49
Dude that sucks, keep your head up!
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
April 26 2014 22:15 GMT
#50
I'm sorry to hear about this story, especially in light of the previous blog where I saw you were someone who really wanted to keep the job even though nightshift is a tiring experience. Now hearing about an honest mistake not directly caused by you, friends who clearly cared for you and some asshole boss who joked about it just makes things even worse. I hope all the best to you in this situation.
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