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enord
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
France258 Posts
March 09 2014 21:54 GMT
#21
On March 10 2014 05:44 pebble444 wrote:
Make sure he playes terran. No but seriously, what about starting playing a musical instrument too

he tries piano and harmonica :D
and goes to a singing class :D
make / have a good tl .. ohhh and i want my icon back :°D
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 09 2014 22:03 GMT
#22
I started SC at age 4 and came out perfectly fine, no reason a 5-year-old couldnt!
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enord
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
France258 Posts
March 09 2014 22:25 GMT
#23
On March 10 2014 02:52 Liquid`Drone wrote:
playing challenging games from a young age is good. I think you're best off restricting it to single player with a 5 year old though. I also think first person shooter games should be avoided when you're that young, imo they should pretty much all be avoided until kids are ~10. but starcraft is great, it's very challenging and not really that much more violent than chess. Most grindy games should be avoided too I think, cuz they're just too much of a timesink compared to the reward - you prolly develop more by doing practically anything than you do from 500 hours of single player diablo 3.

Like, I really don't think there's any point in forcing your kid to go play in the sandbox instead of playing minecraft, but you must be cautious that minecraft doesn't make your kid play 10 hours straight in the sandbox - which he normally would find boring.

he is very much eager to stay in front of the screen, that s what prompted my post

i set quake at 7 year old am i right?

as for number of hours ...?
mmm, he is allowed 2/3 hours (in "less than an hour" cessions) a week
(he actually gets more because of course i cheat, more like 4/5 in 1 to 1h1/2 to ("high score") 2 hours max)
and i don't know what to think of "how much is too much" ???

" challenging games"
sc is challenging and i think it is good that he be challenged <3

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ty for drone approval
make / have a good tl .. ohhh and i want my icon back :°D
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
March 09 2014 22:26 GMT
#24
On March 10 2014 05:52 enord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 05:01 Deleuze wrote:
If you hold down shift and press a letter key it types a thing called a capital letter. They go at the start of sentences, proper nouns and when using the first personal pronoun 'I', as well as other places. Hopefully you won't try to teach your son to type.

o
... now lets see.. shhift ... mmkay ... mmmmkay

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to be be absolutely clear:

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i HATE capital letters

i hate that one must capitalize one s self in the "i" "I" tradition

so i dont.. thank you for your encouragements and please

you go sheep somewhere useful, my lawn is fine ty

ps: j'adores deleuze, mais c'est un pleutre et tu es bien peu utile
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ps : i love deleuze but he is a coward and you are less than useful


Deleuze is no coward!
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
enord
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
France258 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-09 23:24:10
March 09 2014 23:00 GMT
#25
prove it
edit:
did he tackle issues pertaining to difficult subjects? ... mmm yes

did he change the world.. ? mmm a small elitist part maybe

did he tackle children vs violence of the world (mmmm can't remember if he did lol !! sh t!!! hahahahahhaa sorry)

i brought it up because of your interest in my calligraphy, was it nott sort of pompous a line (your post), how would gilles have rated it?
make / have a good tl .. ohhh and i want my icon back :°D
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
March 09 2014 23:15 GMT
#26
On March 10 2014 08:00 enord wrote:
prove it
edit:
did he tackle issues pertaining to difficult subjects? ... mmm yes

did he change the world.. ? mmm a small elitist part maybe

did he tackle children vs violence of the world (mmmm can't remember if he did lol !! sh t!!! hahahahahhaa sorry)

i brought it up becuse of your interest in my caligraphy

isn't sort of pompous a line (your post), how would gilles have rated it?


i wouldn't worry about the long term ramifications, just compare it to what else he would be doing with his time: watching cartoons? watching tv? which do you think is preferable? starcraft teaches extreme motor control, economic optimization, abstract thinking, distancing yourself from the "here and now," forward thinking, etc, i wouldn't be worried about it leading your son astray
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
enord
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
France258 Posts
March 09 2014 23:23 GMT
#27
we have no tv


he could be drawing acting singing gardening etc more (he is already doing all those)

the fact remains that he could be "worst off" or "better off" in 10 to 15 years, that's the puzzle
(not because video games are bad, but because kids know no limit, they can't be rationalized into "investing for their future" s hit)
make / have a good tl .. ohhh and i want my icon back :°D
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
March 09 2014 23:46 GMT
#28
right, and your opinion if he's worse off or better off is your call as a father, i'm just saying that it's not a bad way to spend time.. that said you're going to find biased results because you're on tl, but i dont see how acting singing or gardening is better for him as an economic entity (or a philosophical entity) 10 or 15 years down the road.. if you're looking for return on your investment, starcraft is a great way to go for your son
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-10 00:23:51
March 10 2014 00:23 GMT
#29
If a child starts playing games when he's young I think there's a high chance he'll become a gamer when he's older. Possibly he will be heavily invested in games. Games are addicting, they're designed to be.

Personal experience. But it sounds like you are taking strides to raise him well.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10347 Posts
March 10 2014 02:06 GMT
#30
you should teach your kid magic the gathering. if he can understand the complex triggers, priorities, and stack, it would be awesome :D
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 10 2014 10:01 GMT
#31
i started playing sc:bw at a young age too even played other games before that. around high school i started playing football (soccer) and was kind of hooked into sports, if im not playing sports right now im gaming. i kind of regretted i didnt start sports at an earlier age, it really helped me physically and socially. i hope you also get him into sports!
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enord
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
France258 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-10 22:47:36
March 10 2014 13:32 GMT
#32
On March 10 2014 09:23 obesechicken13 wrote:
If a child starts playing games when he's young I think there's a high chance he'll become a gamer when he's older. Possibly he will be heavily invested in games. Games are addicting, they're designed to be.

Personal experience. But it sounds like you are taking strides to raise him well.

i agree, i have been a muti product addict most of my life (25/30 years of it) and i am quite concerned with the addictive-ness of video games
my only solution has always been to make too many things available for him, so that he is not tempted to wallow too much on only one thing.. but that is a short term thing ...

On March 10 2014 08:46 Endymion wrote:
right, and your opinion if he's worse off or better off is your call as a father, i'm just saying that it's not a bad way to spend time.. that said you're going to find biased results because you're on tl, but i dont see how acting singing or gardening is better for him as an economic entity (or a philosophical entity) 10 or 15 years down the road.. if you're looking for return on your investment, starcraft is a great way to go for your son

"return on investment" hahahahahaha, no that is not what i'm concerned about, although ty for the thought


On March 10 2014 19:01 icystorage wrote:
i started playing sc:bw at a young age too even played other games before that. around high school i started playing football (soccer) and was kind of hooked into sports, if im not playing sports right now im gaming. i kind of regretted i didnt start sports at an earlier age, it really helped me physically and socially. i hope you also get him into sports!

he s practicing acrobatics in a circus class

i am rather against most visions that coaches try to impose on kids..
at such an age, one is discovering one's place in the world in space.. competition or indeed results are not important or even warranted perspectives/issues...
not to say that i would do anything to prevent him for partaking in competition, but i feel its a secondary issue, something a 7 or 8 year old would profit more from i think
at 5 the body is not even an issue for kids, sports are suppose to enlighten them, not confront them to their own limits/wishes

edit: f ck typos
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
March 10 2014 19:36 GMT
#33
I first experienced computer games when I was 3 years old. I can tell you that I was clueless as fuck in Civ 1 and the Butcher at lvl 2 scared the fuck out of me into my dreams.

I played SC and Red Alert 1 when I was 4.

Where am I now? 19 years old, pretty fit and about to enter university at september.

So it shouldnt be too bad for your kid.

Keep in mind that the kid might develop social connections online, which I had noone of till I was 9 and what kicked me out of shape for the first and only time in my life was when I had a very poor social life at school and I primarily found my social "needs" online. Untill it comes to that and your kid still does other stuff, I wouldn't be worried.
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-10 21:14:06
March 10 2014 21:10 GMT
#34
i can recommend something like transport tycoon.
It connects rational decisions and nnumbers with the fun of building a modelrailroad.





you can not know how people will turn out, you can give them a good start, but thats it ^^
How the brain forms all thse connections and makes them into a personality is completely unkown to everyone, even in scientific (as much as they can be in that field ) psychology, they often have a "black box" model. Stuff goes in and then other stuff comes out. How? No idea.
enord
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
France258 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 00:14:51
March 10 2014 22:55 GMT
#35
On March 11 2014 04:36 Iplaythings wrote:
I first experienced computer games when I was 3 years old. I can tell you that I was clueless as fuck in Civ 1 and the Butcher at lvl 2 scared the fuck out of me into my dreams .

I played SC and Red Alert 1 when I was 4 .
Where am I now? 19 years old, pretty fit and about to enter university at september.
So it shouldn't be too bad for your kid.
Keep in mind that the kid might develop social connections online, which I had no one of till I was 9 and what kicked me out of shape for the first and only time in my life was when I had a very poor social life at school and I primarily found my social "needs" online. Until it comes to that and your kid still does other stuff, I wouldn't be worried.

yeah, i dunno.. why i'm asking myself and somewhat tl what we think
ty for your post


On March 11 2014 06:10 LaNague wrote:
i can recommend something like transport tycoon.
It connects rational decisions and numbers with the fun of building a model railroad.
you can not know how people will turn out, you can give them a good start, but that's it ^^
How the brain forms all those connections and makes them into a personality is completely unknown to everyone, even in scientific (as much as they can be in that field ) psychology, they often have a "black box" model. Stuff goes in and then other stuff comes out. How? No idea.

no idea .. i completely agree
lets discuss it
hahahahahahahahahahaha

by the way i love simlikes
i only played the first railroadtyke though
ty for your post

edit: fixxin fr gg ing typos
make / have a good tl .. ohhh and i want my icon back :°D
enord
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
France258 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 00:33:01
March 11 2014 00:09 GMT
#36
On March 10 2014 00:44 vOdToasT wrote:
I played Command & Conquer and StarCraft when I was six, and I turned out fine. It's only one person, I know, but I felt like telling you anyway.

Just make damn sure you help him in school. Help him with his homework, ask him how he's doing (in a nice way so that he isn't scared to tell you), and if he is struggling, help him out. And talk to him about things he is going to encounter in life so that he can deal with them, like girls hitting on him , bad teachers, the school workload, and so on.

thank you vOdToasT
"girls": can't wait
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So.. a little bit of info:

he doesn't specifically want to attack ai opponents

he has pleasure in defeating them (he sends em one by one, wants to repair them and heal them.. )

likes to spread creep and pylon fields (who doesn't)

loves storming opponents

is very disappointed that not all zerg units can go through the creep like the roaches and infestors

he is nowhere near having finished starting this glorious part i relish in my memory of it happening to me four times his age span ago

funny is life

edit: he looks sort of like this:+ Show Spoiler +

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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 11 2014 01:25 GMT
#37
enord's son next bonjwa
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