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hi
my monster is experiencing sc for the first time and loving it
i wonder if i'm being a bad grufalo allowing him.. my better half seems adamant that i am ruining chances of him doing "other" stuff.. possibly ruining his life really
i waited "patiently" 2 years to get "talk/sense" out of his speech, i waited 4 before he was allowed "angry birds" .. now i feel a little better for being "free"er and i am (possibly wrongfully) relieved that from now on i will never have to refrain him anymore, ever
there is no such thing as "experience", it is a lantern enlightening only the past, never what the future holds for us or indeed our kin
i have the "honesty" to declare that i don't know how my kid will deal with stuff from video games
i know i play ball, karting, bricks, drawing learning to read/write .. acrobats and rougher fights etc too
with him, making him discover everything is important, no conflict there
so.. why try and refrain his access.. indeed, to anything (+ Show Spoiler +no! no p rn of course u minger, s.. the thoughts in some people...
i was already teaching him the credit/banking system when he was 1..
"see here i'm giving the nice lady a bit of plastic .. so she can asks the bank to give her money i have there" (credit card)
everyone (since i started with this "kids are smart, never dumb stuff down for them")
has always rolled their eyes sideways or been supportive
there is no doubt in my mind that the 7 year old mark is important
by 7 the kid must be ready
he must know about important stuff, he must be cognitive and know that he is capable of things, incapable of other things
sc is good for that, no?
maybe the whole "killing/destroying comes a bit early.. mmmkay or does it not come late already?
fun:
he likes all three races .. or was that the result of my heavy handed lobbying ? i'll never know
his favorite dialog: "butter my biscuit!"
  
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I played Command & Conquer and StarCraft when I was six, and I turned out fine. It's only one person, I know, but I felt like telling you anyway.
Just make damn sure you help him in school. Help him with his homework, ask him how he's doing (in a nice way so that he isn't scared to tell you), and if he is struggling, help him out. And talk to him about things he is going to encounter in life so that he can deal with them, like girls hitting on him, bad teachers, the school workload, and so on.
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Started SC when I was 6, other games even before that. My dad encouraged my hobby by buying a computer for me and some of the games that I ended up playing.
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You're not being a bad grufalo, but just make sure you take care of your monster.
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I started playing quake 3 when I was 8 years old, that may be too soon, just saying
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Norway28804 Posts
playing challenging games from a young age is good. I think you're best off restricting it to single player with a 5 year old though.  I also think first person shooter games should be avoided when you're that young, imo they should pretty much all be avoided until kids are ~10. but starcraft is great, it's very challenging and not really that much more violent than chess. Most grindy games should be avoided too I think, cuz they're just too much of a timesink compared to the reward - you prolly develop more by doing practically anything than you do from 500 hours of single player diablo 3.
Like, I really don't think there's any point in forcing your kid to go play in the sandbox instead of playing minecraft, but you must be cautious that minecraft doesn't make your kid play 10 hours straight in the sandbox - which he normally would find boring.
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If anything a mentally challenging game like SC will help him develop and improve a multitude of things. It will quite literally make him smarter provided he isnt just randomly clicking shit.
All good things in moderation, however.
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On March 10 2014 00:02 enord wrote:hi my monster is experiencing sc for the first time and loving it i wonder if i'm being a bad grufalo allowing him.. my better half seems adamant that i am ruining chances of him doing "other" stuff.. possibly ruining his life really i waited "patiently" 2 years to get "talk/sense" out of his speech, i waited 4 before he was allowed "angry birds" .. now i feel a little better for being "free"er and i am (possibly wrongfully) relieved that from now on i will never have to refrain him anymore, ever there is no such thing as "experience", it is a lantern enlightening only the past, never what the future holds for us or indeed our kin i have the "honesty" to declare that i don't know how my kid will deal with stuff from video games i know i play ball, karting, bricks, drawing learning to read/write .. acrobats and rougher fights etc too with him, making him discover everything is important, no conflict there so.. why try and refrain his access.. indeed, to anything ( + Show Spoiler +no! no p rn of course u minger, s.. the thoughts in some people... ) i was already teaching him the credit/banking system when he was 1.. "see here i'm giving the nice lady a bit of plastic .. so she can asks the bank to give her money i have there" (credit card) everyone (since i started with this "kids are smart, never dumb stuff down for them") has always rolled their eyes sideways or been supportive there is no doubt in my mind that the 7 year old mark is important by 7 the kid must be ready he must know about important stuff, he must be cognitive and know that he is capable of things, incapable of other things sc is good for that, no? maybe the whole "killing/destroying comes a bit early.. mmmkay or does it not come late already? fun: he likes all three races .. or was that the result of my heavy handed lobbying ? i'll never know his favorite dialog: "butter my biscuit!"
I would say let your kid play if he is keen for it.
As other poster have mentioned as well, I was playing similarly themed games, and I was 9 when original SC came out. At the end of the day you can just turn off the extra gore and mute the chat/stay offline if you want to avoid stuff that is maybe a little bit too mature for a 5 year old. Worst case he is just not going to be interested as I don't really see the harm in exposing kids to as much as you can(as I can tell you believe in as well).
Also a kudos for the whole "dont dumb down life" thing, it will deffo pay off in the long run. I know my parents told me so many stupid fucking lies as a kid I spent my teenage years undoing some of the basics of life and relearning it all again.
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Just make sure he is socializing with kids his age, too. I got sucked into videogames when I was about 10 or so and stopped spending time with friends very much, and my social skills suffered. I can't imagine the consequences of that happening at the age of 5-7. Of course, I am not a father, so what do I know
But I think SC could be a great experience. I recommend chess as well, especially if you live in a city of more than a few hundred thousand. He will be able to meet kids his age that play chess, and if you spend a lot of time playing with him he could get really, really good (I know two people who were rated like 1200 USCF at the age of 7...). And chess teaches and hones all kinds of skills: memory, problem solving, planning, etc. Of course it is not as reflexive as SC, but I do think that in general the human-to-human contact it allows is quite beneficial.
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How to train your Monster, good script.
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On March 10 2014 03:50 Bunn wrote:
dont ruin his eyes
Don't spread misinformation or maybe you'll tell us how it will ruin his eyes?
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If you hold down shift and press a letter key it types a thing called a capital letter. They go at the start of sentences, proper nouns and when using the first personal pronoun 'I', as well as other places. Hopefully you won't try to teach your son to type.
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ty for your general support 
(for reals, i need it)
On March 10 2014 04:16 Saechiis wrote:
How to train your Monster, good script.
i know right 
On March 10 2014 03:50 Bunn wrote:
dont ruin his eyes
yes, that is something i'm scared about, like walkmans for ears (in my day), i make him stop regularly and i make him drink
hell, i even make him consciously stop looking at the screen regularly
On March 10 2014 03:14 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:I would say let your kid play if he is keen for it. ... + Show Spoiler +As other poster have mentioned as well, I was playing similarly themed games, and I was 9 when original SC came out. At the end of the day you can just turn off the extra gore and mute the chat/stay offline if you want to avoid stuff that is maybe a little bit too mature for a 5 year old. Worst case he is just not going to be interested as I don't really see the harm in exposing kids to as much as you can(as I can tell you believe in as well). ... Also a kudos for the whole "dont dumb down life" thing, it will deffo pay off in the long run. I know my parents told me so many stupid fucking lies as a kid I spent my teenage years undoing some of the basics of life and relearning it all again.
"if he is keen for it."
is he keen because he saw me do it. or that i have it available in the first place..? that is the real issue (monkey see monkey do) .. or is he keen because this rtsg type of game sucks you right in for long ???
or because the gameplay of the game is "giving orders" all the time (remember that such is the life of a 5 year old: following orders)
or
just because it is challenging his very core? (which could be good or bad)
"pay off in the long run"
yeah, i humbly admit that i'm ready to f ck up a part of his childhood to make him ready for the rest of his life (presumably with less help/presence from me (me me me hubris yes i know and i stand by it)
ps:
i wish i will see you again (here or elesewhere) on the same subject, when you guys start debating these issues with your wife/life partner (mother of said kid :D ) ... i'll be able to share that too, with you
i always am labelled as difficult to understand.. so..
YES
i am looking for anything this issue (5 and video games) brings out in you all
ty for all who have posted and to those with kids (or kids themselves) that will come forward to participate on this glorious sc forum for this "debate"
edit: f ck typos / f ck blizz no lan
make/have a good tl
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Make sure he playes terran. No but seriously, what about starting playing a musical instrument too
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You are completely overthinking it.
Ask yourself these questions.
Does the game have too much violence (of any type) for your child in your opinion?
If yes, dont let him play.
If no, let him play.
Is your child playing too much?
If yes, remove him from game / limit playtime
If no, let him carry on.
Its that simple.
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On March 10 2014 05:01 Deleuze wrote:
If you hold down shift and press a letter key it types a thing called a capital letter. They go at the start of sentences, proper nouns and when using the first personal pronoun 'I', as well as other places. Hopefully you won't try to teach your son to type.
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... now lets see.. shhift ... mmkay ... mmmmkay
+ Show Spoiler +to be be absolutely clear: + Show Spoiler +i HATE capital letters i hate that one must capitalize one s self in the "i" "I" tradition so i dont.. thank you for your encouragements and please you go sheep somewhere useful, my lawn is fine ty ps: j'adores deleuze, mais c'est un pleutre et tu es bien peu utile + Show Spoiler +ps : i love deleuze but he is a coward and you are less than useful
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On March 10 2014 04:01 Chocolate wrote:
Just make sure he is socializing with kids his age, too. I got sucked into videogames when I was about 10 or so and stopped spending time with friends very much, and my social skills suffered. I can't imagine the consequences of that happening at the age of 5-7. Of course, I am not a father, so what do I know
But I think SC could be a great experience. I recommend chess as well, especially if you live in a city of more than a few hundred thousand. He will be able to meet kids his age that play chess, and if you spend a lot of time playing with him he could get really, really good (I know two people who were rated like 1200 USCF at the age of 7...). And chess teaches and hones all kinds of skills: memory, problem solving, planning, etc. Of course it is not as reflexive as SC, but I do think that in general the human-to-human contact it allows is quite beneficial.
"the human-to-human contact"
yes that is the linchpin of my wife s argument
and i agree
playing with others is nowhere in sight in sc, in any rtsg
this dissociativeness some kids get from gaming is what i'm most scared of..
on the other hand he just started, i'm buying simcity and a steering wheel for a car game soon .. so as to show him other games.. games that you can share with friends his age and take turns or "collaborate"
just, i'm quite sure that the "cowboy and indians" (or cops and robbers) syndrome is really high at that age (pretending to beat others into submission and "killing" them is a necessary phase/point)
not to worry thank you, he socializes good good good (invites friends from school or other and gets invited galore)
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On March 10 2014 05:45 Omnishroud wrote:
You are completely overthinking it.
Ask yourself these questions.
Does the game have too much violence (of any type) for your child in your opinion?
If yes, dont let him play.
If no, let him play.
Is your child playing too much?
If yes, remove him from game / limit playtime
If no, let him carry on.
Its that simple.
"overthinking"
sorry .. never
overthinking stuff is not thinking as much as you can, which is what i do
i realize that kids will be.. whatever they will be (que sera sera and all that jazz)
and that whatever i do, i'm always mucking about, stuff is already there boiling and i steer just as much as i f ck up
(i'm not a good role model but i always show him how important he is to me and how much i love him and hold his future dear)
he will be me, i will do all i can, then he will be himself and i do hope some of what i could pass on will help
he is
i'm just here for the ride
ps: as to your points.. how do you fantasize it happening.. you think i do what i want...
a child is usually the product of two people s decision making (not to mention school/friends of his etc)
lets just take 1: "Does the game have too much violence "
who decides? once done, how do you see if it is or not? can you ever "come back rom it"? etc
no such thing as overthinking
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