starting sc at 5 year old

On March 10 2014 00:02 enord wrote:
hi

my monster is experiencing sc for the first time and loving it

i wonder if i'm being a bad grufalo allowing him.. my better half seems adamant that i am ruining chances of him doing "other" stuff.. possibly ruining his life really

i waited "patiently" 2 years to get "talk/sense" out of his speech, i waited 4 before he was allowed "angry birds" .. now i feel a little better for being "free"er and i am (possibly wrongfully) relieved that from now on i will never have to refrain him anymore, ever

there is no such thing as "experience", it is a lantern enlightening only the past, never what the future holds for us or indeed our kin

i have the "honesty" to declare that i don't know how my kid will deal with stuff from video games

i know i play ball, karting, bricks, drawing learning to read/write .. acrobats and rougher fights etc too
with him, making him discover everything is important, no conflict there

so.. why try and refrain his access.. indeed, to anything (+ Show Spoiler +)

i was already teaching him the credit/banking system when he was 1..
"see here i'm giving the nice lady a bit of plastic .. so she can asks the bank to give her money i have there" (credit card)

everyone (since i started with this "kids are smart, never dumb stuff down for them")
has always rolled their eyes sideways or been supportive

there is no doubt in my mind that the 7 year old mark is important

by 7 the kid must be ready

he must know about important stuff, he must be cognitive and know that he is capable of things, incapable of other things

sc is good for that, no?

maybe the whole "killing/destroying comes a bit early.. mmmkay or does it not come late already?

fun:
he likes all three races .. or was that the result of my heavy handed lobbying ? i'll never know
his favorite dialog: "butter my biscuit!"

On March 10 2014 03:50 Bunn wrote:
dont ruin his eyes

On March 10 2014 04:16 Saechiis wrote:
How to train your Monster, good script.

On March 10 2014 03:50 Bunn wrote:
dont ruin his eyes

On March 10 2014 03:14 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:

I would say let your kid play if he is keen for it.
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Also a kudos for the whole "dont dumb down life" thing, it will deffo pay off in the long run. I know my parents told me so many stupid fucking lies as a kid I spent my teenage years undoing some of the basics of life and relearning it all again.

On March 10 2014 05:01 Deleuze wrote:
If you hold down shift and press a letter key it types a thing called a capital letter. They go at the start of sentences, proper nouns and when using the first personal pronoun 'I', as well as other places. Hopefully you won't try to teach your son to type.

On March 10 2014 04:01 Chocolate wrote:
Just make sure he is socializing with kids his age, too. I got sucked into videogames when I was about 10 or so and stopped spending time with friends very much, and my social skills suffered. I can't imagine the consequences of that happening at the age of 5-7. Of course, I am not a father, so what do I know

But I think SC could be a great experience. I recommend chess as well, especially if you live in a city of more than a few hundred thousand. He will be able to meet kids his age that play chess, and if you spend a lot of time playing with him he could get really, really good (I know two people who were rated like 1200 USCF at the age of 7...). And chess teaches and hones all kinds of skills: memory, problem solving, planning, etc. Of course it is not as reflexive as SC, but I do think that in general the human-to-human contact it allows is quite beneficial.

On March 10 2014 05:45 Omnishroud wrote:
You are completely overthinking it.

Ask yourself these questions.

Does the game have too much violence (of any type) for your child in your opinion?

If yes, dont let him play.

If no, let him play.

Is your child playing too much?

If yes, remove him from game / limit playtime

If no, let him carry on.

Its that simple.

On March 10 2014 05:44 pebble444 wrote:
Make sure he playes terran. No but seriously, what about starting playing a musical instrument too

On March 10 2014 02:52 Liquid`Drone wrote:
playing challenging games from a young age is good. I think you're best off restricting it to single player with a 5 year old though. I also think first person shooter games should be avoided when you're that young, imo they should pretty much all be avoided until kids are ~10. but starcraft is great, it's very challenging and not really that much more violent than chess. Most grindy games should be avoided too I think, cuz they're just too much of a timesink compared to the reward - you prolly develop more by doing practically anything than you do from 500 hours of single player diablo 3.

Like, I really don't think there's any point in forcing your kid to go play in the sandbox instead of playing minecraft, but you must be cautious that minecraft doesn't make your kid play 10 hours straight in the sandbox - which he normally would find boring.

On March 10 2014 05:52 enord wrote:

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... now lets see.. shhift ... mmkay ... mmmmkay

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On March 10 2014 08:00 enord wrote:
prove it
edit:
did he tackle issues pertaining to difficult subjects? ... mmm yes

did he change the world.. ? mmm a small elitist part maybe

did he tackle children vs violence of the world (mmmm can't remember if he did lol !! sh t!!! hahahahahhaa sorry)

i brought it up becuse of your interest in my caligraphy

isn't sort of pompous a line (your post), how would gilles have rated it?

On March 10 2014 09:23 obesechicken13 wrote:
If a child starts playing games when he's young I think there's a high chance he'll become a gamer when he's older. Possibly he will be heavily invested in games. Games are addicting, they're designed to be.

Personal experience. But it sounds like you are taking strides to raise him well.

On March 10 2014 08:46 Endymion wrote:
right, and your opinion if he's worse off or better off is your call as a father, i'm just saying that it's not a bad way to spend time.. that said you're going to find biased results because you're on tl, but i dont see how acting singing or gardening is better for him as an economic entity (or a philosophical entity) 10 or 15 years down the road.. if you're looking for return on your investment, starcraft is a great way to go for your son

On March 10 2014 19:01 icystorage wrote:
i started playing sc:bw at a young age too even played other games before that. around high school i started playing football (soccer) and was kind of hooked into sports, if im not playing sports right now im gaming. i kind of regretted i didnt start sports at an earlier age, it really helped me physically and socially. i hope you also get him into sports!

On March 11 2014 04:36 Iplaythings wrote:
I first experienced computer games when I was 3 years old. I can tell you that I was clueless as fuck in Civ 1 and the Butcher at lvl 2 scared the fuck out of me into my dreams .

I played SC and Red Alert 1 when I was 4 .
Where am I now? 19 years old, pretty fit and about to enter university at september.
So it shouldn't be too bad for your kid.
Keep in mind that the kid might develop social connections online, which I had no one of till I was 9 and what kicked me out of shape for the first and only time in my life was when I had a very poor social life at school and I primarily found my social "needs" online. Until it comes to that and your kid still does other stuff, I wouldn't be worried.

On March 11 2014 06:10 LaNague wrote:
i can recommend something like transport tycoon.
It connects rational decisions and numbers with the fun of building a model railroad.
you can not know how people will turn out, you can give them a good start, but that's it ^^
How the brain forms all those connections and makes them into a personality is completely unknown to everyone, even in scientific (as much as they can be in that field ) psychology, they often have a "black box" model. Stuff goes in and then other stuff comes out. How? No idea.

On March 10 2014 00:44 vOdToasT wrote:
I played Command & Conquer and StarCraft when I was six, and I turned out fine. It's only one person, I know, but I felt like telling you anyway.

Just make damn sure you help him in school. Help him with his homework, ask him how he's doing (in a nice way so that he isn't scared to tell you), and if he is struggling, help him out. And talk to him about things he is going to encounter in life so that he can deal with them, like girls hitting on him , bad teachers, the school workload, and so on.