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Why does this debate get me so heated?

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climax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1088 Posts
February 19 2014 19:36 GMT
#1
[image loading]

Blue = Myself | Black = Friend

I'm not sure what it is, but this stuff always gets me heated. I should've just let it go, but I'm not exactly sure why I get so heated about these kinds of topics. I've played both games for over 1000+ hours and still, it bothers me. Trying to figure out how to walk away and not let it get to my head.

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Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
February 19 2014 20:34 GMT
#2
I only see an [image loading] tag, maybe you could describe the disagreement in words instead? Alternatively try fixing the pic =)
Souone
Profile Joined July 2012
Brazil470 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 20:55:06
February 19 2014 20:54 GMT
#3
moba games are designed to replicate the whole dueling/guild aspect of MMORPGs ...


I'm not sure how this can be true. There wasn't that much around when AoS was made.

And arguments like LoL vs Dota or PC vs Consoles and such are pretty pointless, most people make their opinions and never budge, you just need to realize when it's not worth the fight.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
February 19 2014 21:15 GMT
#4
I'm just glad it wasn't about anything important or else I'd get all riled up as well.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
[MD]Frostbite
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada292 Posts
February 19 2014 21:22 GMT
#5
Maybe its because you're at the "climax" of the argument. x)
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 22:46:29
February 19 2014 22:40 GMT
#6
[image loading]

the image extension/ tag needs to be in the link to view on TL. gotta click view image on the imgur link and link that.

that being said, fuck mobas.
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
February 19 2014 23:47 GMT
#7
No good discussion can stem from the opening statement "But dota sucks...". You should have avoided it altogether.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20282 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 03:20:03
February 20 2014 03:17 GMT
#8
On February 20 2014 08:47 Chairman Ray wrote:
No good discussion can stem from the opening statement "But dota sucks...". You should have avoided it altogether.


Agreed

doomed from the third word

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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
February 20 2014 03:58 GMT
#9
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12348 Posts
February 20 2014 03:59 GMT
#10
I like both games in their own ways.
I like the fact that spell casters don't lose their usefulness in LoL due to AP scaling.
but I also like how a hero's role changes according to how the game is going in dota.

I think LoL did a great job in cutting down some unnecessary/less interesting part to make the game goes faster but I also like how Dota has more interesting mechanics like day/night cycle with vision change and juking path.

there is no way to argue which game is better though, personally I am playing whatever my friends are playing and this is coming from a dota player who played like 6 years of dota.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 16:07:42
February 20 2014 16:02 GMT
#11
You shouldn't bother arguing specifics like that. If you can't help yourself argue on the initial faulty premise: AoS/DotA are not based strictly on MMORPG fighting, in fact AoS' release occurred at about the same time as the common model of MMORPG fighting actually started to take shape with EQ, UO, and other near 1st gen MMORPG. There may be some similarities, but the games are based in no small part a merge of existing RTS fundamentals as well. If anything it's more that they carry some common ancestors (Diablo and other Action RPGs).

Besides, from everything I've seen the preferences usually come down pretty simply to if you prefer more of a team brawling style (LoL) or if you'd rather a style more about control & efficiency (DotA). Most of the design choices fall out from those two styles. It seems like Lol wants heroes to be hitting each other as much as possible (and requiring good teamwork while doing so) while DotA is more content to make the game a contest over efficiency and map control with the explosive and often brief hero fighting being one expression of that. With the preference being so fundamental to the philosophies of the games you'll never convince anyone of your side and neither side is really right. They're different sides of the same genre really. It's like arguing if Quake or CS is the better competitive FPS; they're two different audiences.

(Though really you probably get mad because your friend is wrong lol, not because of his preference, but his reasoning isn't accurate)
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 16:15:53
February 20 2014 16:15 GMT
#12
I doubt you'll change his mind tbh. This conversation would go on forever and you two will likely keep on arguing back and forth with no end in sight. I would've just said that I prefer x and moved on. As for walking away, write the following: "to each his own ".
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 20 2014 21:04 GMT
#13
I don't play either anymore because of their communities and the fact that I get bored of playing on the same goddamn map over and over, although I prefer DotA's more intricate one in this regard.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
February 21 2014 00:40 GMT
#14
well said, noob down, lol sucks.
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