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Top 50 GM as protoss in one month

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intense555
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States474 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-25 01:30:21
December 16 2013 04:49 GMT
#1
Update: Well I think I I will not be able to do this in the 31 days because I did not plan for season ladder lock and will not have enough time to get into grandmaster before it. Therefore, I give because of this. I also did not enjoy playing protoss very much (compared to terran). My thoughts from my week 1 update blog still apply though.
Hello, I am intense, a terran player that has been in the grandmaster league on NA server for the past 6 seasons, and a few other times long ago in WoL. Earlier today I made a bet with some ROOT/SEED members that I could achieve top 50 GM on NA server in 1 month. I know sjow tried to do this but he failed quite horribly, but I feel that I am capable of pulling this off. I just want to show that protoss is less mechanically and strategically challenging than the other two races. I will be writing my progress in this blog. I will write my first day progress, but after that will only update weekly.


Day 1 (so far):
I went over DH Winter replays of Patience and Naniwa in order to find openings that I liked, I opted for SG openings in all 3 matchups. Here are my BO notes:
+ Show Spoiler +
Protoss builds
PvP
9 pylon
12 gate ( scout )
15 double gas ( then use 3rd chrono, saturate 2 ea then rally 3rds )
17 pylon
18 core
19 zlot
When core finishes start WG and get stargate ( should already have 50 chrono when core finishes )
Next 100 gas msc ( 1 chrono on this )
next 50 stalker ( no chrono )
next 150 oracle ( double chrono )
add gates 2 & 3 right now if facing aggresion or drop nexus ( around when oracle is finishing , add gates 2 & 3 after if you get nexus )
1 phoenix ( unless you scout no sg or suspect dts then 2 oracle--->1 phoenix , 1st oracle will confirm whether or not you should move out with 2nd )
if you 3 gate and opponent is expanding, pressure ( with nexus behind this )
after nexus, add robo and forge, tech up to twilight then archons when +1 is halfway done
take 3rd and 4th gases if playing defensive on nexus when it is finishing
go up to 5 gates then take third, if opponent is greedy then go up to 8 gateways and attack w/ zlot archon reinforcments ( collosus, early 3rd, stupid )
warp prism after 2 immortals to hurass, cannon in each mineral line, make sure to have full base vision
TvP
9 pylon
13 gate
16 double gas (rally 15th probe to build both )
2 on each
19 core
start zlot ( do not let finish if no ebay block )
21 msc
23 nexus
23 pylon
after this go sg-->double forge--->5gate---->twilight--->templar & storm
2 base 8 gate greedy terrans or take third and start robo whilist maintaining constant unit production
tech up to collosus, hit 3 base 3/3 timing
make sure to get cannon in each mineral line
PvZ
9 pylon at main
13 gateway
15 double gas
17 pylon
18 core
18 zealot
21 msc
23 nexus
23 wg
23 pylon at nat ( to get wall off )
25 sentry
27 stargate ( 5 phoenix or oracle into 5 phoenix )
3rd and 4th gases at nat around 6:30
add gates 2 & 3 at nat + pylon to get wall w/ sentry & msc
robo --->Forge and +1 -----> 4 more gates
2 immortals----> warp prism -----> obs
push out when 2nd immortal finshes and rally other stuff, make sure to have chrono'd +1 attack to finishing
you should have alot of sentries that were built early on
win

I will be doing this on my main account
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3310952/1/intense/

For updates follow me on twitter @SEEDintense or check this blog weekly, next update will be next Sunday night.
Stream for this starts 12/20 (Friday) http://www.twitch.tv/intensesc


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Aspiring Starcraft 2 pro for @mYinsanityEU, follow me on twitter @mYintenseSC
-JoKeR-
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada387 Posts
December 16 2013 04:58 GMT
#2
May the strength of the protoss all ins guide you and the msc keep you safe.

You can probably get GM with protoss since you are really good but top 50 would be hard.
( bush
Profile Joined April 2011
321 Posts
December 16 2013 04:59 GMT
#3
Good, I also plan on trying this soon, will aim for GM as toss.
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Rickyvalle21
Profile Joined July 2012
United States320 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 05:03:58
December 16 2013 05:02 GMT
#4
I don't think anybody can get top 50 in 1 month with their offrace. Good luck to you though but I can assure you that Pvp will make you not want to play the race.
people say practice is perfect but if nothing is perfect whats the point in practicing?
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
December 16 2013 05:20 GMT
#5
damn I thought this was a statement like it was actually done already...what a disappointment.

good luck with PvP lol.
intense555
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States474 Posts
December 16 2013 05:27 GMT
#6
On December 16 2013 14:20 LuckyFool wrote:
damn I thought this was a statement like it was actually done already...what a disappointment.

good luck with PvP lol.

Don't count me out just yet, I'm doing better than anticipated, I expect to be GM by the end of the week probably.
Aspiring Starcraft 2 pro for @mYinsanityEU, follow me on twitter @mYintenseSC
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
December 16 2013 05:31 GMT
#7
have fun pvp'ing :3
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Rickyvalle21
Profile Joined July 2012
United States320 Posts
December 16 2013 05:43 GMT
#8
I know you stream but you never mentioned it. Can you stream your progress? I'm sure that there will be quite a few people, like me, wanting to see this.
people say practice is perfect but if nothing is perfect whats the point in practicing?
intense555
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States474 Posts
December 16 2013 05:45 GMT
#9
On December 16 2013 14:43 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
I know you stream but you never mentioned it. Can you stream your progress? I'm sure that there will be quite a few people, like me, wanting to see this.

Will probably start streaming this coming friday, this week is finals so I wont have much time.
Aspiring Starcraft 2 pro for @mYinsanityEU, follow me on twitter @mYintenseSC
Heiwa
Profile Joined June 2013
United States10 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 05:51:48
December 16 2013 05:49 GMT
#10
i don't know why everyone says protoss is so much easier then terran, Terran is just A-move race with little to no multitasking
Anyway GL i guess, i hope you fail harcore.


[Fedora]Heiwa~
"If you love life, don't waste time, for time is what life is made up of." - Bruce Lee
Ero-Sennin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States756 Posts
December 16 2013 05:53 GMT
#11
gl bro
Luck makes talent look like genius.
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
December 16 2013 05:59 GMT
#12
as painful as TvP is, you'll have to face the monster that is PvP
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
December 16 2013 06:15 GMT
#13
You traitor!
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
SEEDPrebs
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway30 Posts
December 16 2013 06:22 GMT
#14
#nosoul
Snute>Carlsen
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
December 16 2013 06:40 GMT
#15
On December 16 2013 13:49 intense555 wrote:
I just want to show that protoss is less mechanically and strategically challenging than the other two races.


I'm getting real sick of people spouting BS like this. I hope you end up realizing this is absolutely not true.
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 07:11:22
December 16 2013 07:11 GMT
#16
Good luck in breaking in top 50! Can't wait to see you stream.

I just want to show that protoss is less mechanically and strategically challenging than the other two races


I also can't wait to hear you retract this. It will happen. You simply don't know what you are talking about, and it's surprising seeing how good you are with Terran.
Midday
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada59 Posts
December 16 2013 07:34 GMT
#17
good luck dude I know you can do it ez
So, let's go!
hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
December 16 2013 07:40 GMT
#18
You are a brave/foolish soul to attempt such a feat when you still have finals.
People are imbeciles, lucky thing god made cats.
tar
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 07:52:29
December 16 2013 07:50 GMT
#19
I found sjow's toss journey rather entertaining andI hope you will stream yours regularly so we can follow your progress.

I think top 50 will be quite hard but sjow showed that as a GM player you should be able to hit at least high masters soley bases on your mechanics and understanding of sc2 in general (the latter inculdes applying strategies and BOs one has analysed before).
whoever I pick for my anti team turns gosu
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
December 16 2013 08:14 GMT
#20
Good luck! You can do it!
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