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Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
September 24 2013 00:07 GMT
#21
On September 23 2013 10:53 Salv wrote:
Why is Hearthstone so popular despite a superior game having been in existence for years?


Why is SC2 so popular despite a superior game having been in existence for years?

Because it's new, easier accessible and trendy. Watch Hearthstones popularity shrink within the next 1-2 months. Then it won't even be on the front page of twitch anymore.
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
September 24 2013 00:43 GMT
#22
On September 23 2013 22:30 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 15:34 MarlieChurphy wrote:
I would say it is popular for a couple of variables:
1. Its easy to learn and play (unlike mtg which is daunting with their game of rules that override other rules)
2. Its online an easily accessable via free beta
3. Its got a huge userbase via blizzard fanboys
4. There is a bit of a lull in the fantasy/rpg/nerd roll genre in gaming right now.
5. A lot of Youtubers and popular figures (like some you mentioned) are doing a lot of coverage of it right now. And the reason for this is because of the other reasons above.


regarding number 1 .. MTG actually has a easier rules of the game .. its one of the easiest card games i tried .. and has the most entertaining deck building


ever tried YugiOh ? every card has a rule of its own and sometimes overlaps the rules sometimes other card sometimes it doesnt .. not to mention its rules change almost every month



In repsonse to NarutO, and you. The game is harder to learn and play than Hearthstone. That's my point. It takes longer, the rules are more convoluted and specific with phases and modifers to base rules etc. Every new set that comes out also changes how the card text is read or adds some new rules or card types or whatever. It is essentially a game of rules and rule changes. Whether you think this is hard or not, it's still a fuckton more to learn and is essentially harder on that basis.
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Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
September 24 2013 01:14 GMT
#23
A lot of people play WoW and Hearthstone is set in the same universe, go figure.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
September 24 2013 02:26 GMT
#24
After all the craze I tuned into some streams recently and...I wasn't really impressed. Would much rather watch MtG. Seemed like less depth and less strategy tbh.

I guess it really does appeal to casuals, I still don't get how/why beta keys are going for 200-300+ on ebay though. Seems absurd.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
September 24 2013 06:51 GMT
#25
Complexity does not necessarily create popularity. Maybe a contributing factor to MTG not being more popular is that it's a bit more complex than a certain casual gamer appreciates or wants
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
September 24 2013 07:28 GMT
#26
MTG has a huge card base. If you as a potential player want to play against others, you have to familiarize yourself with what potential cards/decks they might throw at you. There are more than 10000 different cards in the game, and for people wanting to learn MTG that's pretty daunting.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
September 24 2013 18:31 GMT
#27
Because the MtG:O client is awful and makes the game painful to watch onstream and Blizzard did a marketing blitz.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 24 2013 20:16 GMT
#28
On September 24 2013 16:28 moopie wrote:
MTG has a huge card base. If you as a potential player want to play against others, you have to familiarize yourself with what potential cards/decks they might throw at you. There are more than 10000 different cards in the game, and for people wanting to learn MTG that's pretty daunting.

That's not really a compelling argument because given how cards are divided into formats, you're pretty rarely going to be exposed to more cards than you can handle unless you willingly choose to do so.
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
September 24 2013 21:06 GMT
#29
I feel that Magic is actually a victim of it's own success. I played it during Revised edition; that was 15 years ago (yes I'm old / played it when I was quite young). I actually forget the game exists from time to time. It's just something "I used to play" or something I associate with my childhood.

I'm sure a lot of people have the same mentality of writing off Magic unintentionally.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
September 24 2013 21:58 GMT
#30
MtG handles mana & mulligan in really shitty ways.

MODO client is not accessible to new players.

Blizzard > WotC
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
September 26 2013 05:37 GMT
#31
On September 25 2013 06:58 Thrill wrote:
MtG handles mana & mulligan in really shitty ways.

MODO client is not accessible to new players.

Blizzard > WotC

That probably the one thing that I didn't fully understand. How does that work exactly? I see people select a few cards and then it randomly draws ones you don't choose? But then you start with 7 cards right?
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
September 26 2013 06:31 GMT
#32
On September 23 2013 10:53 Salv wrote:
Why is Hearthstone so popular despite a superior game having been in existence for years?


I've been wondering that since 2010.
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prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
October 23 2013 06:04 GMT
#33
In this age when there are so many good games out there, people just don't have the time to invest into getting good at something too deep like magic. This is why brood war never would've seen the same success as StarCraft II. Personally I'm really enjoying Hearthstone and it's because I can sit there and click shit while browsing the internet or whatever. I suspect it's similar for most others.
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Tal
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United Kingdom1017 Posts
October 23 2013 09:41 GMT
#34
As a big Magic fan, I think it really suffers from not being able to patch cards, with the exception of occasional bans. A lot of problem cards just need minor tweaks.

I also feel like it's too damn complicated, but not actually that deep. Once you understand some of the more tricky interactions, the best play is often obvious. I still really enjoy playing, but am glad we're seeing people try to do better, as there's a lot of room for improvement. Still didn't get a hearthstone beta key, but I'll try it when it comes out.
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