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This is a heated issue, but please keep the debate civil.
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On August 16 2013 16:44 ptbl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 16:38 TheButtonmen wrote:On August 16 2013 16:36 ptbl wrote:On August 16 2013 16:31 lolnice wrote:
Wow, I can't believe this shit.
Genna posting private stuff, and Dennis rightfully gets mad.
Then she posts his reaction online again?!
W-T-F
You owe TaKe an apology! This is what I am saying. Not only does Genna post the private conversation once, but she does it again the SECOND time when Dennis already told her his misgivings about the first one. We could call the first reveal if the private conversation a mistake/error in judgement, but then she does it again. Wtf??? Likely because after he brought up legal action she stopped giving a shit about what he wanted, rather then just addressing the issue and asking she refrain from doing it in the future or even asking for an apology he escalated it drastically. Take has the right to be angry. He is the injured party here. Take isn't the one who posted the private conversations. Can you ever imagine Nazgul posting private conversations to the public? Hell no. Actually, when is the last time a team owner posted private business related conversation to the public without notification and consent. NEVER. Genna is just plainly in the wrong here.
EDIT: You know what? fuck it. I think I'm done in this thread.
I totally agree 100% man.
EDIT #2: From this post on I'm gonna try and be more positive and not get frustrated with posters who... I disagree with, or whatever.
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On August 16 2013 16:46 OblivionMage wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 16:40 Advantageous wrote:
why is TaKe doing this... i thought TaKe was a cool guy until now... All he did was privately write "I wonder if there is legal action against this?" referring to Genna posting private conversation logs that he felt poorly represented Acer. And then Genna posted that publicly as well, with a negative slant towards Take, and TB went around on twitter, reddit, and TL posting "Fuck Take".
Everyone should get this before poking Take with the pitchforks.
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Without talking about legality. Don't you think its sheer common decency to not post private statements publicly if the person who made the statement did not give you permission?
People constantly make off the record comments or have private conversations that are just that PRIVATE because they talk about things that are not appropriate in some way.
If you can not grasp that simple idea, then you cannot function in this world.
Imagine people speaking their minds about everybody all the time. The world would be a very harsh place i will tell you that.
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On August 16 2013 16:45 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 16:41 TheButtonmen wrote:On August 16 2013 16:39 namste wrote:On August 16 2013 16:38 TheButtonmen wrote:On August 16 2013 16:36 ptbl wrote:On August 16 2013 16:31 lolnice wrote:
Wow, I can't believe this shit.
Genna posting private stuff, and Dennis rightfully gets mad.
Then she posts his reaction online again?!
W-T-F
You owe TaKe an apology! This is what I am saying. Not only does Genna post the private conversation once, but she does it again the SECOND time when Dennis already told her his misgivings about the first one. We could call the first reveal if the private conversation a mistake/error in judgement, but then she does it again. Wtf??? Likely because after he brought up legal action she stopped giving a shit about what he wanted, rather then just addressing the issue and asking she refrain from doing it in the future or even asking for an apology he escalated it drastically. In which case the team is much better without her and this whole thing turned out great. If you actually believe the team and the scene are better off without her then I'm really not sure what to say to you because you're completely and utterly wrong. No, I'm saying that the team is better off without a person in charge who starts to "not give a shit" about what a popular tournament organizer and community pillar (for the lack of better word, you have to admit that for the European scene Take is huge) wants, and just goes and posts all kind of information that could be really harmful for all of the three parties involved.
If his first reaction is to threaten legal action I'd say the reverse applies and we're better off without him?
Saying things are better off with some of the largest contributers to the scene is a dangerous combination of ignorance and spite.
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I don't know which is more upsetting to me:the fact there are 17 pages of comments on this already or that anyone at all seems to give a shit about this.
See ya, bye.
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On August 16 2013 16:44 ptbl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 16:38 TheButtonmen wrote:On August 16 2013 16:36 ptbl wrote:On August 16 2013 16:31 lolnice wrote:
Wow, I can't believe this shit.
Genna posting private stuff, and Dennis rightfully gets mad.
Then she posts his reaction online again?!
W-T-F
You owe TaKe an apology! This is what I am saying. Not only does Genna post the private conversation once, but she does it again the SECOND time when Dennis already told her his misgivings about the first one. We could call the first reveal if the private conversation a mistake/error in judgement, but then she does it again. Wtf??? Likely because after he brought up legal action she stopped giving a shit about what he wanted, rather then just addressing the issue and asking she refrain from doing it in the future or even asking for an apology he escalated it drastically. Take has the right to be angry. He is the injured party here. Take isn't the one who posted the private conversations. Can you ever imagine Nazgul posting private conversations to the public? Hell no. Actually, when is the last time a sc2 team owner posted private business related conversation to the public without notification and consent. NEVER. Genna is just plainly in the wrong here.
Rubbish. Here's a private letter being discussed:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19470866
Here's another public conversation being discussed:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19329140
Here's another private message posted:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19267795
I could look past more than a few weeks but the bottom line is, you're talking out of your ass.
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On August 16 2013 16:47 Shebuha wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 16:44 ptbl wrote:On August 16 2013 16:38 TheButtonmen wrote:On August 16 2013 16:36 ptbl wrote:On August 16 2013 16:31 lolnice wrote:
Wow, I can't believe this shit.
Genna posting private stuff, and Dennis rightfully gets mad.
Then she posts his reaction online again?!
W-T-F
You owe TaKe an apology! This is what I am saying. Not only does Genna post the private conversation once, but she does it again the SECOND time when Dennis already told her his misgivings about the first one. We could call the first reveal if the private conversation a mistake/error in judgement, but then she does it again. Wtf??? Likely because after he brought up legal action she stopped giving a shit about what he wanted, rather then just addressing the issue and asking she refrain from doing it in the future or even asking for an apology he escalated it drastically. Take has the right to be angry. He is the injured party here. Take isn't the one who posted the private conversations. Can you ever imagine Nazgul posting private conversations to the public? Hell no. Actually, when is the last time a team owner posted private business related conversation to the public without notification and consent. NEVER. Genna is just plainly in the wrong here. Except he wasn't injured until Genna posted the log of him threatening her with legal action. Until that point he had no reason to be angry because Genna's blog where she posted the original logs painted both TaKe and Acer in a very very very very positive light................
He is injured from the breach in professional courtesy. The act of posting private conversations alone, no matter the content of what is inside is a faux pas. This is why you don't see major figures like mr.chae post private conversations he had with kespa to the public, etc. It's a matter of etiquette.
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On August 16 2013 16:49 TheButtonmen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 16:45 namste wrote:On August 16 2013 16:41 TheButtonmen wrote:On August 16 2013 16:39 namste wrote:On August 16 2013 16:38 TheButtonmen wrote:On August 16 2013 16:36 ptbl wrote:On August 16 2013 16:31 lolnice wrote:
Wow, I can't believe this shit.
Genna posting private stuff, and Dennis rightfully gets mad.
Then she posts his reaction online again?!
W-T-F
You owe TaKe an apology! This is what I am saying. Not only does Genna post the private conversation once, but she does it again the SECOND time when Dennis already told her his misgivings about the first one. We could call the first reveal if the private conversation a mistake/error in judgement, but then she does it again. Wtf??? Likely because after he brought up legal action she stopped giving a shit about what he wanted, rather then just addressing the issue and asking she refrain from doing it in the future or even asking for an apology he escalated it drastically. In which case the team is much better without her and this whole thing turned out great. If you actually believe the team and the scene are better off without her then I'm really not sure what to say to you because you're completely and utterly wrong. No, I'm saying that the team is better off without a person in charge who starts to "not give a shit" about what a popular tournament organizer and community pillar (for the lack of better word, you have to admit that for the European scene Take is huge) wants, and just goes and posts all kind of information that could be really harmful for all of the three parties involved. If his first reaction is to threaten legal action I'd say the reverse applies and we're better off without him? Saying things are better off with some of the largest contributers to the scene is a dangerous combination of ignorance and spite.
I'm sure TB (who studied Law) was very scared by these dire and obviously serious legal threats. The question mark really seals the deal:
[6:51:25 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: this is crazy
[6:51:33 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: actually i hope that by law
[6:51:40 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: this is something you can get punnished for?
[6:51:49 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: i guess if acer gonna read this they will get mad
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Personally think this makes TaKe look worse than post #1, but only because he's saying he might bring you to court or some crap..
Really depressing to hear you step down from Axiom. I'm new to the scene and don't know much but I know that it's one of the more passionate teams from what I see and hear (read). Hoping for the best to come to you, Axiom in general and also that TB can fit in time for Axiom, or find someone who can (not sure how but yeah..).
Anyway, time to BibleThump my heart out. Too much 'bad' news for SC2 lately. :/
Edit: Rereading the bit about the 'law' bit by TaKe, and the post above me (thank you for posting btw), I realize that he is just spiteful.
"[6:51:33 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: actually i hope that by law
[6:51:40 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: this is something you can get punnished for?"
Maybe he just worded it terribly, but he seemed to be questioning whether or not he could sue Axiom, or Genna specifically, for posting that stuff.
I don't believe he can anyway, but this makes me a whole lot happier than I was when I first posted this.
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On August 16 2013 16:40 Advantageous wrote:
why is TaKe doing this... i thought TaKe was a cool guy until now...
His reaction might seem a bit extreme but he if anyone knows how difficult it is to get sponsors in e-sports. Hes so invested in the scene that he turned his own home into a freaking studio. I can totally understand why he wouldn't want to take risks with anything that might make the organization/sponsors look bad.
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you'll be missed, genna. you're pretty awesome. i hope you change your mind and come back. you bring a lot to esport.
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On August 16 2013 16:50 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 16:44 ptbl wrote:On August 16 2013 16:38 TheButtonmen wrote:On August 16 2013 16:36 ptbl wrote:On August 16 2013 16:31 lolnice wrote:
Wow, I can't believe this shit.
Genna posting private stuff, and Dennis rightfully gets mad.
Then she posts his reaction online again?!
W-T-F
You owe TaKe an apology! This is what I am saying. Not only does Genna post the private conversation once, but she does it again the SECOND time when Dennis already told her his misgivings about the first one. We could call the first reveal if the private conversation a mistake/error in judgement, but then she does it again. Wtf??? Likely because after he brought up legal action she stopped giving a shit about what he wanted, rather then just addressing the issue and asking she refrain from doing it in the future or even asking for an apology he escalated it drastically. Take has the right to be angry. He is the injured party here. Take isn't the one who posted the private conversations. Can you ever imagine Nazgul posting private conversations to the public? Hell no. Actually, when is the last time a sc2 team owner posted private business related conversation to the public without notification and consent. NEVER. Genna is just plainly in the wrong here. Rubbish. Here's a private letter being discussed: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19470866Here's another public conversation being discussed: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19329140Here's another private message posted: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19267795I could look past more than a few weeks but the bottom line is, you're talking out of your ass.
ok I shouldn't have said never. It was overly dramatic, but that doesn't lessen my point about professional courtesy
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On August 16 2013 16:50 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 16:44 ptbl wrote:On August 16 2013 16:38 TheButtonmen wrote:On August 16 2013 16:36 ptbl wrote:On August 16 2013 16:31 lolnice wrote:
Wow, I can't believe this shit.
Genna posting private stuff, and Dennis rightfully gets mad.
Then she posts his reaction online again?!
W-T-F
You owe TaKe an apology! This is what I am saying. Not only does Genna post the private conversation once, but she does it again the SECOND time when Dennis already told her his misgivings about the first one. We could call the first reveal if the private conversation a mistake/error in judgement, but then she does it again. Wtf??? Likely because after he brought up legal action she stopped giving a shit about what he wanted, rather then just addressing the issue and asking she refrain from doing it in the future or even asking for an apology he escalated it drastically. Take has the right to be angry. He is the injured party here. Take isn't the one who posted the private conversations. Can you ever imagine Nazgul posting private conversations to the public? Hell no. Actually, when is the last time a sc2 team owner posted private business related conversation to the public without notification and consent. NEVER. Genna is just plainly in the wrong here. Rubbish. Here's a private letter being discussed: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19470866Here's another public conversation being discussed: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19329140Here's another private message posted: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19267795I could look past more than a few weeks but the bottom line is, you're talking out of your ass.
LOL
Yeah those "private letters" are totally comparable to the situation we have here...... /sarcasm
The first two links are about one party trying to scam the other......how is that in any way relateable to the whole Take/Genna situation.....
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On August 16 2013 16:49 TheButtonmen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 16:45 namste wrote:On August 16 2013 16:41 TheButtonmen wrote:On August 16 2013 16:39 namste wrote:On August 16 2013 16:38 TheButtonmen wrote:On August 16 2013 16:36 ptbl wrote:On August 16 2013 16:31 lolnice wrote:
Wow, I can't believe this shit.
Genna posting private stuff, and Dennis rightfully gets mad.
Then she posts his reaction online again?!
W-T-F
You owe TaKe an apology! This is what I am saying. Not only does Genna post the private conversation once, but she does it again the SECOND time when Dennis already told her his misgivings about the first one. We could call the first reveal if the private conversation a mistake/error in judgement, but then she does it again. Wtf??? Likely because after he brought up legal action she stopped giving a shit about what he wanted, rather then just addressing the issue and asking she refrain from doing it in the future or even asking for an apology he escalated it drastically. In which case the team is much better without her and this whole thing turned out great. If you actually believe the team and the scene are better off without her then I'm really not sure what to say to you because you're completely and utterly wrong. No, I'm saying that the team is better off without a person in charge who starts to "not give a shit" about what a popular tournament organizer and community pillar (for the lack of better word, you have to admit that for the European scene Take is huge) wants, and just goes and posts all kind of information that could be really harmful for all of the three parties involved. If his first reaction is to threaten legal action I'd say the reverse applies and we're better off without him? Saying things are better off with some of the largest contributers to the scene is a dangerous combination of ignorance and spite.
Well we can go and have a contributer battle between Take and the Bains and pretty sure Take wins it. But that's beside the point. All I was saying is that if someone gets stressed/emotional enough to start posting private email/skype logs without the permission of the other party, then perhaps he or she is not fit for the job to represent a team with actual big time sponsors.
Just to clear the air here, I am not in anyway a hater of the Bains. Infact I'm a subscriber of the Biscuit on youtube, twitch and generally enjoy every form of content he does, and I sincerely hope that Genna is alright and I wish her good luck in whatever she does.
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On August 16 2013 16:28 ptbl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 16:22 CarbonTwelve wrote:On August 16 2013 16:11 OblivionMage wrote:On August 16 2013 16:09 Shebuha wrote:On August 16 2013 16:04 OblivionMage wrote:[6:51:49 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: i guess if acer gonna read this they will get mad
[6:51:54 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: that you posted it online
[6:51:55 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: 10 times
[6:52:02 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: more than u can ever imagine
[6:52:14 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: cause there you let acer look very bad So let me get this straight: Misc. issues cause Axiom to not be able to attend an event. Genna posts announcement. Minor (MINOR) disgruntlement from community. Genna seeks to defend herself and her team, posting private chats of her and TaKe. TaKe sees these, and realizes it could make Acer look bad, and in this money-starved business, that's the worst thing you could do. TaKe gets mad, writes angrily to Genna. Genna again posts a private conversation and calls it quits. At the end of the day, TaKe was just paranoid about making a sponsor look bad, I don't think that's at all problematic. Yeah, the legal threats were dumb, but Genna's posting them publicily to try to crucify TaKe seems worse. 1. lol. 2. No, he thought it could make Acer look bad, which it in no way could. 3. That was not her intention. 4. The more I read from Genna and TB the more I love the both of them. I will support them both, as well as Axiom itself, until the end. So you think it was a good idea to post private business conversations to make you and your organization look good in the communities eyes at the expense of another individual and at the expense of a sponsor? You support that, right? That's totally cool with you? It wasn't at the expense of another individual or the expense of a sponsor. Did you actually read the blog? Genna mentioned several times that she thought TaKe was awesome and that he was going out of his way to help out their team, and that in no way was it Acer's fault. No matter her intent, she should have afforded take the professional courtesy to notify and receive his consent to post the private conversations to the public. It's like Nazgul let's TB know in private that he received 50k from a sponsor. That's good news right? But that doesn't give TB the right to tell the public about the content of the conversation he had with nazgul without notification and consent. It's a matter of professional courtesy
Yeah, I can agree that professionally courtesy would suggest you should get permission first, but I don't agree with TaKe's response that he hopes someone can get punished by law for that.
On August 16 2013 16:30 namste wrote:
At times like these (about every other day, right?) makes you really realize what a joke this eSports business really is. We should all just call it quits and be done with this shit. Let's pick a sport that has actual professionals working in it.
The problem is that people who are 'actual professionals' don't hang around in an industry that has no money to pay.
Feels like most of the people in here didn't even read the posts and are blaming Take for everything, it's just silly.
I could've said the same thing about people making TaKe out to be completely innocent of blame.
Partial blame goes to everyone involved.
Agreed.
On August 16 2013 16:31 DusTerr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 16:23 SaWse wrote:On August 16 2013 13:58 steff wrote:
Dennis : okay i see but lets be honest thier chances doing pretty okay at the finale are there if we cant find a deal at all it would be the worst solution right? the point is i dont have big budgets that i can pay from my own pocket 3-4-5 flights
Genna : Worst case scenario, we forfeit and Millenium takes our slot.
Dennis : but before a team is not coming i really wanna help and even willing to pay some of my money into it thats why i ask i just try to find options
Genna : I'll have to talk to John about it to see if we have anything leftover from our sponsor pool for the month.
Dennis : okay and i will talk to acer about it if they would cover another 1500+ i think i am willing to help to on top
I take it all back its clear Take is the real evil person in this situation. Guy acts as reasonably as someone can > gets upset about private conversations being made public > gets jumped on by fans of the most toxic duo in e-sports. Couldn't agree more, he offers to help out in any way he can, and then he gets stabbed in the back. (maybe that's overly dramatic) He gets upset and posts PRIVATELY MESSAGES something that vaguely hints to legal action and suddenly it's all as if he was suing them already. Don't do anything that can make sponsors look bad in this industry because it is simply too fragile for pulling shit like that. It's like someone said a while back on whatever talk show I was watching, we can't just say no papa johns we don't want your sponsorship until you are better to your employees. Also, TaKe's comment about legal action could simply be questioning if it was legal for Genna to use his private messages publicly without his permission.
No it couldn't. You don't say "I hope by law it's something you can be punished for" if you're just questioning it.
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Axiom is one team, Acer is one of the biggest Esports sponsors there is, get a grip on reality please...
had everything been done correctly from the get-go (informationwise from BOTH sides) there would have been no issues.
had a statement been prepared together, showing good will from both sides, there would have been no issues.
As it stands for me, you overreacted and put Take in a bad spot, and now you are doing it again only because you have lost your temper, are overly aggressive and unprofessional, always this Jessica-like crash and burn mentality... if you go cant you go in peace? i certainly hope you will when things have cooled down a bit, and please dont attack Take for being concerned about his business partners and his PRIVACY, i know you dont think it is that precious, but he does, i do, germans do.
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Lesson to learn: seal everything with a NDA.
Sad that this has to be done, but all of this would have been avoided. In Addition: why dont you deal with this shit behind closed doors completely? Going public when you are disapointed does not help here. Tbh genna should have thought about legal actions herself.
Anyways, thanks for your Engagement.
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I just don't understand the reason to post private chat logs, what did that actually accomplish? Proving your point that he forgot to mention the offline part? Well you could've written that in one sentence and if he denied it then you could've proved him wrong with the logs. But instead they decided to share a lot of info for no reason.
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On August 16 2013 16:57 CarbonTwelve wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 16:28 ptbl wrote:On August 16 2013 16:22 CarbonTwelve wrote:On August 16 2013 16:11 OblivionMage wrote:On August 16 2013 16:09 Shebuha wrote:On August 16 2013 16:04 OblivionMage wrote:[6:51:49 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: i guess if acer gonna read this they will get mad
[6:51:54 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: that you posted it online
[6:51:55 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: 10 times
[6:52:02 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: more than u can ever imagine
[6:52:14 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: cause there you let acer look very bad So let me get this straight: Misc. issues cause Axiom to not be able to attend an event. Genna posts announcement. Minor (MINOR) disgruntlement from community. Genna seeks to defend herself and her team, posting private chats of her and TaKe. TaKe sees these, and realizes it could make Acer look bad, and in this money-starved business, that's the worst thing you could do. TaKe gets mad, writes angrily to Genna. Genna again posts a private conversation and calls it quits. At the end of the day, TaKe was just paranoid about making a sponsor look bad, I don't think that's at all problematic. Yeah, the legal threats were dumb, but Genna's posting them publicily to try to crucify TaKe seems worse. 1. lol. 2. No, he thought it could make Acer look bad, which it in no way could. 3. That was not her intention. 4. The more I read from Genna and TB the more I love the both of them. I will support them both, as well as Axiom itself, until the end. So you think it was a good idea to post private business conversations to make you and your organization look good in the communities eyes at the expense of another individual and at the expense of a sponsor? You support that, right? That's totally cool with you? It wasn't at the expense of another individual or the expense of a sponsor. Did you actually read the blog? Genna mentioned several times that she thought TaKe was awesome and that he was going out of his way to help out their team, and that in no way was it Acer's fault. No matter her intent, she should have afforded take the professional courtesy to notify and receive his consent to post the private conversations to the public. It's like Nazgul let's TB know in private that he received 50k from a sponsor. That's good news right? But that doesn't give TB the right to tell the public about the content of the conversation he had with nazgul without notification and consent. It's a matter of professional courtesy Yeah, I can agree that professionally courtesy would suggest you should get permission first, but I don't agree with TaKe's response that he hopes someone can get punished by law for that.
If this was actual business world and not eSports business world, there could and most likely would be legal consequences. But I'm not a lawyer of any sorts so I'm just guessing. You just don't go and post private stuff without the permission of the other party, that's the point that got Take angry, I assume.
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On August 16 2013 16:46 OblivionMage wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 16:40 Advantageous wrote:
why is TaKe doing this... i thought TaKe was a cool guy until now... All he did was privately write "I wonder if there is legal action against this?" referring to Genna posting private conversation logs that he felt poorly represented Acer.
He didn't say "I wonder", he said "I hope". Very different.
On August 16 2013 17:01 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 16:57 CarbonTwelve wrote:On August 16 2013 16:28 ptbl wrote:On August 16 2013 16:22 CarbonTwelve wrote:On August 16 2013 16:11 OblivionMage wrote:On August 16 2013 16:09 Shebuha wrote:On August 16 2013 16:04 OblivionMage wrote:[6:51:49 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: i guess if acer gonna read this they will get mad
[6:51:54 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: that you posted it online
[6:51:55 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: 10 times
[6:52:02 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: more than u can ever imagine
[6:52:14 AM] Dennis.Gehlen: cause there you let acer look very bad So let me get this straight: Misc. issues cause Axiom to not be able to attend an event. Genna posts announcement. Minor (MINOR) disgruntlement from community. Genna seeks to defend herself and her team, posting private chats of her and TaKe. TaKe sees these, and realizes it could make Acer look bad, and in this money-starved business, that's the worst thing you could do. TaKe gets mad, writes angrily to Genna. Genna again posts a private conversation and calls it quits. At the end of the day, TaKe was just paranoid about making a sponsor look bad, I don't think that's at all problematic. Yeah, the legal threats were dumb, but Genna's posting them publicily to try to crucify TaKe seems worse. 1. lol. 2. No, he thought it could make Acer look bad, which it in no way could. 3. That was not her intention. 4. The more I read from Genna and TB the more I love the both of them. I will support them both, as well as Axiom itself, until the end. So you think it was a good idea to post private business conversations to make you and your organization look good in the communities eyes at the expense of another individual and at the expense of a sponsor? You support that, right? That's totally cool with you? It wasn't at the expense of another individual or the expense of a sponsor. Did you actually read the blog? Genna mentioned several times that she thought TaKe was awesome and that he was going out of his way to help out their team, and that in no way was it Acer's fault. No matter her intent, she should have afforded take the professional courtesy to notify and receive his consent to post the private conversations to the public. It's like Nazgul let's TB know in private that he received 50k from a sponsor. That's good news right? But that doesn't give TB the right to tell the public about the content of the conversation he had with nazgul without notification and consent. It's a matter of professional courtesy Yeah, I can agree that professionally courtesy would suggest you should get permission first, but I don't agree with TaKe's response that he hopes someone can get punished by law for that. If this was actual business world and not eSports business world, there could and most likely would be legal consequences. But I'm not a lawyer of any sorts so I'm just guessing.
For the first post, no, there couldn't, and there wouldn't, and I have studied law. The second post is a bit more possible, but still unlikely.
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