• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:11
CEST 19:11
KST 02:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers14Maestros of the Game 2 announced82026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid24
StarCraft 2
General
2026 GSL Tour plans announced Maestros of the Game 2 announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions Pros React To: ASL S21, Ro.16 Group C Data needed
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV Dawn of War IV Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1502 users

Why can't I just pick a game to play :(

Blogs > Esoterikk
Post a Reply
Normal
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
July 12 2013 09:21 GMT
#1
Bouncing back and forth between Dota 2 and Sc2 and constantly being mediocre at both because I can't focus on just one. I don't have time for both because I play other games like WoW with friends and have time to get good at one game but I just CANNOT decide.

I love Dota 2 but I never feel like I have any feedback on improving or nothing to work towards like I do in Sc2. I miss the ladder. I love the cosmetics and what Valve does for the game and the game itself is very fun. But, there are a few problems from the get go. I want to stream a game and Dota doesn't have many people watching player streams, plus with no "GM" I can't use that as a draw in to my stream. In the end i always fine myself coming back to Dota.

Sc2 is an awesome game and I have a lot of fun playing it. I can't play as many games in a row as Dota but I love the ladder and I like being able to work towards something. The ladder is fun, weekley tournaments are fun, the game itself is okay but will probably be more fun when I get timings down. Overall I feel there is more room for player advancement in sc2.

But there also the fact that it's been this long and I just can't focus on one game which seems pretty stupid that an adult such as myself can't make the simple decision to play one game or the other and it has surprisingly been bothering me enough that my RL suffers.

I don't know, this blog sucks but I had to get it off my chest, im sick of not knowing w.hat to play

**
ktimekiller
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States690 Posts
July 12 2013 09:37 GMT
#2
Just pick one, roll dice if you have to.
Antifate
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States415 Posts
July 12 2013 09:48 GMT
#3
You should play whichever one offers you funner gameplay. From your descriptions I feel like you enjoy Dota2 more. Unless streaming is very important for you, I don't think that's something you should be worried about. In addition, Dota2 is less taxing and is probably going to get a lot of attention now that it has been officially released. There's also plenty of room for competitive play in it.

Lastly, though you seem to want to be a competitive player, there's nothing wrong with playing both games for fun.
No one is taller than the last man standing.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
July 12 2013 09:48 GMT
#4
On July 12 2013 18:37 ktimekiller wrote:
Just pick one, roll dice if you have to.


Yea I probably should just suck it up and pick one, it's tough though I am pretty much the most indecisive person on the planet.
PineapplePizza
Profile Joined June 2010
United States749 Posts
July 12 2013 10:37 GMT
#5
Just those two?

If it has to be one or the other, pick SC2...unless your friends want to play DotA with you or something.

Solo-queue dota sounds like hell
"There should be no tying a sharp, hard object to your cock like it has a mechanical arm and hitting it with the object or using your cockring to crack the egg. No cyborg penises allowed. 100% flesh only." - semioldguy
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
July 12 2013 11:00 GMT
#6
Why pick one? Do you want to become a progamer? Are you absolutely determined to make a living from this?
Cause if not than gaming is just a means of having fun and relaxing for you, and you are not obliged to choose just one game. I am the same way, though i have longer periods of playing one game. Like 2 months dota, 4 weeks cs2, than 1 month wow. But who cares, as long as I am enjoying myself?

Of course it may be that you enjoy feeling the improvement in your play, which is understandable, and I feel the same way. Thats why I play longer periods of dota2. So you can focus on one game, while not completely commiting to it, and dropping everything else. I mean its great to have friends to play with no matter what the game is.
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
July 12 2013 13:28 GMT
#7
Why do you feel the need to stream? Just play whatever and switch if you get bored. If this is the most pressing concern for you atm you must have a pretty sweet life.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 14:34:25
July 12 2013 14:29 GMT
#8
Dota easily has the larger viewer base on an average day (for instance right now on twitch there are around 25k viewers for dota and only around 11k for SC2), and the fact that you can play more dota than sc2 speaks pretty loudly. I'm no Dota fan but to me it sounds like a pretty easy choice.

Also, Dota only now is coming out of Beta, lots of room for growth.
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
July 12 2013 15:16 GMT
#9
Is it really that important for you to be good at the game? Can't you just pick a game based on what you enjoy most?

In regards to streaming, Dota 2 viewer numbers seem to dwarf SC2 on twitch, even when no tournaments are going on. So if streaming's an important point for you, then go with Dota 2, otherwise pick what you think is most fun (or even better, play both based on what you feel like at the moment)
What a player
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
July 12 2013 15:33 GMT
#10
Play SC2 and you'll never have to rage at teammates.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
July 12 2013 16:48 GMT
#11
Play Dota. Trust me. SC2 just isn't worth it.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
July 12 2013 17:42 GMT
#12
On July 13 2013 00:16 MentalGNT wrote:
Is it really that important for you to be good at the game? Can't you just pick a game based on what you enjoy most?

In regards to streaming, Dota 2 viewer numbers seem to dwarf SC2 on twitch, even when no tournaments are going on. So if streaming's an important point for you, then go with Dota 2, otherwise pick what you think is most fun (or even better, play both based on what you feel like at the moment)


The reason I want to pick one game to be good at is I only have time for one, the rest is work, gym and school and playing wow with friends. The reason I want to be good at a game instead of playing for fun is having is my hobby and I really enjoy competition, I also lack achievements in real life use gaming to fill that void in the mean time as it gives me something I enjoy to work towards.

As far as streaming its not extremely important, I want to stream but it's not make or break. I want to compete at a amateur level at a game more to be honest. I would likely stream either way.
Split.
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland234 Posts
July 12 2013 18:27 GMT
#13
On July 13 2013 02:42 Esoterikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 00:16 MentalGNT wrote:
Is it really that important for you to be good at the game? Can't you just pick a game based on what you enjoy most?

In regards to streaming, Dota 2 viewer numbers seem to dwarf SC2 on twitch, even when no tournaments are going on. So if streaming's an important point for you, then go with Dota 2, otherwise pick what you think is most fun (or even better, play both based on what you feel like at the moment)


The reason I want to pick one game to be good at is I only have time for one, the rest is work, gym and school and playing wow with friends. The reason I want to be good at a game instead of playing for fun is having is my hobby and I really enjoy competition, I also lack achievements in real life use gaming to fill that void in the mean time as it gives me something I enjoy to work towards.

As far as streaming its not extremely important, I want to stream but it's not make or break. I want to compete at a amateur level at a game more to be honest. I would likely stream either way.

Then play Starcraft. You rely entirely on yourself and there is a pretty good league system. Both make it easy to track your progress. In Dota you can literally play hundreds of hours and still think you have no grasp on the game. Of course Starcraft needs the same amount of hours, but there is an actually progress-route and you can more precisely figure out what you need to work on
Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
July 12 2013 19:31 GMT
#14
I'm confused as to why you NEED to only pick one. If you enjoy both why can't you play both?

I don't see any problems here.
Chameleons Cast No Shadows
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 19:41:30
July 12 2013 19:36 GMT
#15
Dota is fun if you have friends. It's basically limitless fun with a good group of buddies. Try to get people playing with you, make some friends.

I stopped playing Sc2 2 years ago when I realized how much of a lonely, isolated, and stressing experience it was. All alone against an opponent, with no communication in between, clicking like a madman whole game doing all sorts of stuff. It just wasn't for me anymore, I really tried.

Dota though, still feels fun after 1400 hours because every game can go wildly different due to item/hero combos and also FRIENDS. Make friends man. If you do have friends, make more ^^

Sc2 is not a game that you play to have fun. It's simply not designed to be. It's only fun if you really enjoy its competitive aspect.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
July 12 2013 21:35 GMT
#16
On July 13 2013 04:31 Butterednuts wrote:
I'm confused as to why you NEED to only pick one. If you enjoy both why can't you play both?

I don't see any problems here.


I don't NEED to pick one and will obviously continue to play both however I want to pick one to focus on and use the other for a side game that I play casually once or twice a week, however I feel like I wouldn't play Sc2 unless I was focusing on it because it seems pointless to play it without the intent of improving which casual play wouldn't really do. I could play Dota casually fairly easily though.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
July 12 2013 23:01 GMT
#17
Come on pick sc there no other feeling quite like it when you make a good play/play good games
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
July 13 2013 01:40 GMT
#18
On July 13 2013 08:01 igay wrote:
Come on pick sc there no other feeling quite like it when you make a good play/play good games


I'm actually leaning towards Sc2 atm just because as said before there is really no skill metric in Dota unless you are extremely self marketable.
doner0
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States233 Posts
July 13 2013 02:24 GMT
#19
ask yourself which one you enjoy playing more. I came to the very same crossroads with the same exact two games, I still play sc2 here or there but not a day goes by where i regret my decision to play dota more because frankly i have more furn while playing it. Now this isn't a statement on whether or not dota or sc2 is better, just which one i enjoy more. hopefully this helped somehow :D
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
July 13 2013 02:45 GMT
#20
On July 13 2013 11:24 doner0 wrote:
ask yourself which one you enjoy playing more. I came to the very same crossroads with the same exact two games, I still play sc2 here or there but not a day goes by where i regret my decision to play dota more because frankly i have more furn while playing it. Now this isn't a statement on whether or not dota or sc2 is better, just which one i enjoy more. hopefully this helped somehow :D


I'm not sure how to quantify enjoy more, let me just say if I had to go to a deserted island and had to pick one of the two games it would be Dota. I can also play Dota for longer in a row before being exhausted.

Otherwise I am extremely bad at knowing what I actually enjoy more.
doner0
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States233 Posts
July 13 2013 05:48 GMT
#21
On July 13 2013 11:45 Esoterikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 11:24 doner0 wrote:
ask yourself which one you enjoy playing more. I came to the very same crossroads with the same exact two games, I still play sc2 here or there but not a day goes by where i regret my decision to play dota more because frankly i have more furn while playing it. Now this isn't a statement on whether or not dota or sc2 is better, just which one i enjoy more. hopefully this helped somehow :D


I'm not sure how to quantify enjoy more, let me just say if I had to go to a deserted island and had to pick one of the two games it would be Dota. I can also play Dota for longer in a row before being exhausted.

Otherwise I am extremely bad at knowing what I actually enjoy more.

to me it sounds like you enjoy dota more then. Granted if you get really good at sc2 you'll have a way to quantify it and the self-gratification will probably be higher. But to me it doesn't sound like you want to play a game obssesively everyday. You just want to have that game where you can log on whenever you want and feel competent. Sc2 makes it difficult to do this while in dota 2 its a lot easier to pick up once you know the game well enough.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12703 Posts
July 13 2013 06:58 GMT
#22
once you run out of time to play both, you will get stucked into one.
I am sticking with LoL because my GF is playing it also

it's a shame because I almost completely stopped playing and watching SC2 now
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Meow-Meow
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany451 Posts
July 13 2013 10:37 GMT
#23
Get a real hobby. Unless you absolutely love gaming, it's a pretty pointless thing to do for that many hours...
| (• ◡•)|╯ ╰(❍ᴥ❍ʋ) Like all techno, it's hard to tell if it's good music played horribly or horrible music played well.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
July 13 2013 18:44 GMT
#24
On July 13 2013 19:37 Meow-Meow wrote:
Get a real hobby. Unless you absolutely love gaming, it's a pretty pointless thing to do for that many hours...


I do absolutely love gaming, had other hobbies, no interest in not gaming. I also workout 4 times a week, bike every day and spend time with GF, this is a main reason why I can only focus on playing one game because of time.
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
July 14 2013 03:08 GMT
#25
Talk to a family member or friend, someone that really knows you[and is willing to listen and understand], and if that someone totally knows what you are talking about, so much the better! People that know you better than you know yourself are a lot of help in these sorts of situations.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
FrogsAreDogs
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada181 Posts
July 14 2013 04:28 GMT
#26
Sc2. Do it.
YO
dGHaiL
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States177 Posts
July 14 2013 05:04 GMT
#27
If you can't make up your mind, flip a coin.

Heads SC2, Tails DoTA. Being forced to make a decision that way will help you determine what you actually want to do.

Something like:

*Flip*

Heads. Okay, SC2! Well, shit, you know, I really wanted to play DOTA..
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 05:11:14
July 14 2013 05:08 GMT
#28
On July 14 2013 14:04 dGHaiL wrote:
If you can't make up your mind, flip a coin.

Heads SC2, Tails DoTA. Being forced to make a decision that way will help you determine what you actually want to do.

Something like:

*Flip*

Heads. Okay, SC2! Well, shit, you know, I really wanted to play DOTA..


Haha, yea, this was my first thought too but all it revealed is I really am unable to make a decision, I think at this point I am going to focus on practicing Sc2 and see where that takes me for the next few months and play Dota casually when I don't feel like playing Sc2.

Likely hoping this helps me make a final decision based on how quickly I improve at Sc2.

Or I might just change my mind completely and focus on Dota 2 since Valve has made that game so awesome.
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
July 14 2013 06:31 GMT
#29
I think you just need to really decide on whether or not you want to decide which game to play. Once said decision has been made, you have already decided that you will decide on which game to play, and then all that is left is to make the decision. Being undecided on deciding about something is pretty indecisive if you ask me, but I dont want to decide this for you.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
July 14 2013 08:21 GMT
#30
On July 14 2013 15:31 MaxField wrote:
I think you just need to really decide on whether or not you want to decide which game to play. Once said decision has been made, you have already decided that you will decide on which game to play, and then all that is left is to make the decision. Being undecided on deciding about something is pretty indecisive if you ask me, but I dont want to decide this for you.


Welcome to my hell, my life is plagued by indecision
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
July 18 2013 19:51 GMT
#31
Happy Birthday! So, what did you pick?
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
15:00
King of the Hill #245
SteadfastSC137
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Reynor 635
SteadfastSC 137
Hui .118
UpATreeSC 112
BRAT_OK 17
StarCraft: Brood War
EffOrt 1267
Mini 628
Stork 549
ZerO 260
Soma 255
firebathero 236
Leta 181
Soulkey 138
JYJ 79
Sharp 72
[ Show more ]
Hyun 60
Sea.KH 41
Aegong 39
Barracks 35
ProTech25
HiyA 23
Sexy 22
Rock 21
Terrorterran 14
IntoTheRainbow 12
Shine 7
GoRush 7
Dota 2
Gorgc6210
qojqva1996
Counter-Strike
fl0m2023
byalli873
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King103
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK8
Other Games
Grubby2635
FrodaN1434
B2W.Neo693
DeMusliM409
ceh9375
ArmadaUGS270
KnowMe168
QueenE143
XaKoH 120
crisheroes86
RotterdaM86
Trikslyr59
ZerO(Twitch)23
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream13486
Other Games
BasetradeTV296
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 36
• LUISG 29
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki17
• HerbMon 11
• Michael_bg 4
• FirePhoenix2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV384
Counter-Strike
• Nemesis2077
Other Games
• Shiphtur215
• imaqtpie19
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
6h 49m
Escore
16h 49m
RSL Revival
23h 49m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 17h
Universe Titan Cup
1d 17h
Rogue vs Percival
Ladder Legends
1d 21h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 21h
BSL
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
Ladder Legends
2 days
BSL
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Soma vs hero
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Leta vs YSC
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-22
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.