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Challenge: Run to Grandmaster in 2,5 Months
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Ler
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Ureth_RA
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m0nt
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On July 02 2013 23:32 Ureth_RA wrote: Not gonna happen bro Depends on how much work he puts in bro | ||
StreetWise
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DusTerr
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On July 02 2013 23:32 Ureth_RA wrote: Not gonna happen bro he could play on SEA... | ||
Lorch
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Duggibobo
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EVERYTHING, literally EVERYTHING is possible if you are willing, and striving after your goal. Make sure not to '' take water over your head'' or whatever it's called in English! Good luck! | ||
Acrofales
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![]() Other than that... good luck. | ||
Rhaegal
United States678 Posts
He's only dianond 1v1 right? Yea, I don't think any amount of work is going to get him GM in 2-5 months. Even now, if you look at his stream he's playing team games. The work required for Diamond - GM in 2-5 months would probably be constant 8-12 hour days of efficient practice. Very few people have the dedication or the lack of responsibilities for such a training schedule. | ||
Railgan
Switzerland1507 Posts
Then again maybe i am wrong and you are talented. However you should probably speedrun the campaign and not the ladder. Does anyone want to make a bet on this? | ||
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MaxQT
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Aelfric
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On July 02 2013 23:53 Duggibobo wrote: I started to play June 2011. Back then I was low silver, and three months later, I was 1800 points master on EU ladder. I played 8-10h/day and hit GM a while after that. 1800 points master = EU GM pretty much back then. EVERYTHING, literally EVERYTHING is possible if you are willing, and striving after your goal. Make sure not to '' take water over your head'' or whatever it's called in English! Good luck! Everything is possible if you are willing + have time and moneys to carry within that time. | ||
alpenrahm
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Bunn
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robih
Austria1086 Posts
on EU? no best of luck though | ||
Meatex
Australia285 Posts
![]() Jokes aside if OP has the time to spare each day then he can make GM level in 2.5 months | ||
Sevre
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xsnac
Barbados1365 Posts
starcraft from scratch to gm is not gonna happen in 2 months . you can even try polyphasic sleep stuff and still wont do it you cant get gm level in 2 months . or atlast not in eu | ||
playa
United States1284 Posts
Think about it, if it were truly that simple and only took that amount of dedication (from someone that hasn't exactly shown rare SC 2 talent), then pretty much everyone in Masters would have been GM at one point or another. | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On July 03 2013 00:58 kldfg wrote: If it were possible to become GM within a couple of months, that would not shed a good light on StarCraft. It's supposed to be hard, and becoming a pro (and yes, I know that's not the same as GM) should not be possible for casuals. I hate to burst your bubble, but there are lots of casual players who are very high master/GM. Depending on what race he plays and the manner in which he wishes to reach GM I think this is entirely possible. | ||
Nerchio
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Scarlett`
Canada2385 Posts
On July 03 2013 01:12 Nerchio wrote: Play protoss And all in every game | ||
phipsL
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SupLilSon
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Abstinence
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gaymon
Germany1023 Posts
Given the fact though that the OP already has 1.7k games played and is still in diamond i dont think he will be able to do it. | ||
TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
On July 03 2013 01:02 SupLilSon wrote: I hate to burst your bubble, but there are lots of casual players who are very high master/GM. Depending on what race he plays and the manner in which he wishes to reach GM I think this is entirely possible. not from diamond. If you're not at least low master with playing only here and there, it will definately not be possible! | ||
Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
Edit: Actually you won't reach GM level play, but if you perfect Protoss 2 base play and all-in every game you might make the cut? | ||
KiWiKaKi
Canada691 Posts
run to grandmaster | ||
JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
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MaxViktory
Sweden136 Posts
Find some high master players that you can practice with every day, analyze your replays see to it that every time you encounter something new that you find a way to beat it with your practice partners. Take notes. Keeping track of what mistakes you make most often is also good. With discipline you will get to GM. | ||
Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
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StateAlchemist
France1946 Posts
Oh noes the big secret strat is out. hf, dont get your expectations too high tho | ||
KingofGods
Canada1218 Posts
(I have 1000+ wins as protoss and 1000+ wins as terran and I am no where near GM). | ||
RaiZ
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On July 03 2013 00:00 Rhaegal wrote: He's only dianond 1v1 right? Yea, I don't think any amount of work is going to get him GM in 2-5 months. Even now, if you look at his stream he's playing team games. The work required for Diamond - GM in 2-5 months would probably be constant 8-12 hour days of efficient practice. Very few people have the dedication or the lack of responsibilities for such a training schedule. More like 8 to 12 months before getting gm... Oh well. Like everybody said, allins with protoss are really strong and so gay. But hey, at least, your challenge might finally be realistic. | ||
StrinterN
Denmark531 Posts
Anyways GLHF. Prepare for 10hours dedicated hours of practice a day if you want to make it. | ||
Jade
Poland289 Posts
On July 03 2013 01:33 KiWiKaKi wrote: One does not simply run to grandmaster This. Gl bro. Not impossible, but you prob wont make it. | ||
mikumegurine
Canada3145 Posts
might work some people in the MLG Spring championship were in GM in these "easier regions" and they got demolished by players from other regions so getting GM there is going to be easier than trying for GM in the other regions... also you have to be serious about it, dedicate your entire life to SC2 (these 2.5 months you have allotted yourself) 10 hours is not enough 18 hours a day would be only decent like play 16 hours a day, and have 2 hours to just watch replays and figure out what you did wrong when I played Warcraft 3, and was rank 2 on the ladder, I played 16+ hours a day, just to be able to stay up there in ladder points wise (was first to get 500 win random race icon) | ||
rEalGuapo
Germany832 Posts
0% chance to get GM by his own in 2.5 Months is my estimate and I am pretty damn certain it is accurate. | ||
lessQQmorePEWPEW
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Ronski
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Nice plug for stream but not going to get you any viewers in the long run. | ||
NarutO
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intense555
United States474 Posts
On July 02 2013 23:43 Lorch wrote: Unless you pick na/sea server or you literally play 10+ hours a day, this should not be possible. But have fun trying, it is still a way superior game compared to what you apparently played before, and 1 v 1 is about 500 times better than the silly team crap they put in. lol? NA/EU are about the same, Ive been GM on both before...... | ||
NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On July 03 2013 02:11 intense555 wrote: lol? NA/EU are about the same, Ive been GM on both before...... Not it really is not the same.. | ||
Scarlett`
Canada2385 Posts
On July 03 2013 02:11 NarutO wrote: Impossible, good luck. It's not impossible | ||
rEalGuapo
Germany832 Posts
Well 4Gating in 2v2s won't get him there, pretty sure of it. (That's what he does on stream . . .) Also from Diamond to GM is such a huuuge step, especially without a good coach, by rights it should take him a year to get there unless he just does some stupid all-in every game, and even then I doubt it will work. | ||
ImperialFist
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I play 7-8 ladder games a week now which is nothing. I think you need 30 games a day or something? | ||
KingofGods
Canada1218 Posts
On July 03 2013 02:05 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote: nice plug for ur stream But as soon as someone tunes in and sees that they have been duped, they will immediately turn it off. Soooooooooo, not exactly sure what this accomplishes. | ||
MaxQT
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On July 03 2013 02:00 mikumegurine wrote: pick the easiest server and try to get GM there might work some people in the MLG Spring championship were in GM in these "easier regions" and they got demolished by players from other regions so getting GM there is going to be easier than trying for GM in the other regions... also you have to be serious about it, dedicate your entire life to SC2 (these 2.5 months you have allotted yourself) 10 hours is not enough 18 hours a day would be only decent like play 16 hours a day, and have 2 hours to just watch replays and figure out what you did wrong when I played Warcraft 3, and was rank 2 on the ladder, I played 16+ hours a day, just to be able to stay up there in ladder points wise (was first to get 500 win random race icon) you high bro? 18 hours a day is impossible even for pro koreans, let alone a casual gamer. you must let your mind rest.. or you will tilt so hard. only mindless ladder grind will not get your far. | ||
vahgar.r24
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willstertben
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it is very similar on non high end mmr. i am/was high masters on both servers and i noticed more play style difference than difficulty wise. na players (especially protosses) seemed MUCH more gamble gamble kind of play style to me though and i'm bad against that........ particular way of playing the game....... so maybe my perception isn't 100% right. on high gm level it's simple logic that na is a lot easier though, as eu top players are much better than na and there are a lot more of them. | ||
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Cele
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Shantastic
United States435 Posts
I won't be aiming for GM, but definitely for mid-master. I am a high-plat/low-diamond Zerg (though massive under-activity has put all my accounts in Gold). I will set up my computer and start a practice regime immediately, and see if I can get Masters post-purge. If I can do that in the next 2.5 months, maybe I can continue an equally efficient practice schedule to be in a good place for the next MLG. Good luck!! | ||
Ler
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StarMoon
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GL tho. | ||
willstertben
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On July 03 2013 02:22 Cele wrote: I'd be more impressed if u made C on ICCUP in the same amount of time. ![]() i made c- in a month in 200.....6 i think? with no real competitive RTS experience except i played wc3 at decent level, but that's more like a moba than like a RTS. | ||
eXwOn
Canada351 Posts
On July 02 2013 23:28 Ler wrote: I appreciate some help, but its not mandatory to achieve my goal. You should consider playing 1v1 | ||
fezvez
France3021 Posts
In all honesty, you will probably just start facing low GM players at most. But that would still be cool! | ||
Mongoose
United Kingdom190 Posts
But will this guy do it? I doubt it. Seems a bit bizzare to post this in SC2 general especially since he has no previous pro gaming experience. If you had been already trying for 2.5 months and made it to top 8 masters before challenging yourself to reach grandmasters in 2 months, it would have been something worth watching. PS: Reaching grandmaster level and actually being placed in grandmaster are two different things. For example look at streamers like Painuser - a top masters player, MaximusBlack, currently rank 30 in masters, and a bunch of others, and they've all been playing for a long time. | ||
Ler
Germany543 Posts
On July 03 2013 02:31 Mongoose wrote: I would say possible - Flash came over to SC2 and was easily GM within a month or two. But will this guy do it? I doubt it. Seems a bit bizzare to post this in SC2 general especially since he has no previous pro gaming experience. If you had been already trying for 2.5 months and made it to top 8 masters before challenging yourself to reach grandmasters in 2 months, it would have been something worth watching. I have plenty of "pro gaming experience" - Just in other games, I also was 1k games 80% N811 in Wc3 ;D As I read through the comments, the odds seem kinda bad. This gonna be interesting. | ||
FosTA
Canada154 Posts
I feel getting top X master's would be a much more realistic goal. http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/all/master Currently the top place is ~1500 points. Aim for that! GL HF! | ||
IPA
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
From diamond with no experience beforehand as how to professionally train, yes, it is absolutely impossible right now. Especially midseason. If your only goal is to reach grandmaster aka you don't really care about being "good" , you could allin with a strong 2 base timing every game but as I understood, his goal is really being grandmaster as in actually good. | ||
Berceno
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Eatme
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Also those 1700k games better be spread out since release or so. | ||
Eggi
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people debate whether he can or cant. throw some flamage here and there, and he+thread disappear into the depth of the internet 98% chance you won make it. Youd have to get your MMR up before season ends. The easiest time to "level" up is between seasons. At that point your behind on games etc and have to make up the other 2 months you werent playing. Whats the 2% you ask? Find a very cheeky/cheesy P or T build and learn it and do it every match(honestly dont think you can pick up zerg right now and win with some bad all ins, theyre not as strong as P and T cant be) Something that will let you finish a game fast so you can play X amount of games in a day with a decent win ratio. Thats your only shot. Cheers | ||
Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
On July 03 2013 02:26 Ler wrote: I didnt started 1on1 yet since i got exams in the next week. Ill start right after I m done so I can focus on my goal. loll this is like quitting smoking or getting in shape. get your shit going before you start telling everyone about it. I wish you the best but a little reality check wouldnt hurt either. glhf | ||
blade55555
United States17423 Posts
No really it is. At the very very top of gm it might be a little harder but even then not by much. | ||
SniXSniPe
United States1938 Posts
On July 03 2013 02:54 NarutO wrote: From diamond with no experience beforehand as how to professionally train, yes, it is absolutely impossible right now. Especially midseason. If your only goal is to reach grandmaster aka you don't really care about being "good" , you could allin with a strong 2 base timing every game but as I understood, his goal is really being grandmaster as in actually good. It really depends. He has 1.7k games total, but the important question is how many of these are 1v1s? There's a lot of people who could be good who never put in time nor effort. If he can put in 8 hours a day and possibly even grab a coach (might not even need a coach, if he has like 50 1v1 games since the release of sc2 he could possibly have some talent), I can see it happening. | ||
ApocAlypsE007
Israel1007 Posts
I think that your best chance is to find extremely abusive builds which give you quick victories, I doubt that in macro games you will be able to learn fast enough to reach GM in 75 days, even if you just play, eat and sleep. Or you could be a some kind of a prodigy and we will be hearing from you in few months taking games off Korean pros. | ||
Chrono000
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ZenithM
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nAnO!
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But gl | ||
Ler
Germany543 Posts
On July 03 2013 05:21 nAnO! wrote: i doubt that 4hours ladder / day will be enough to get gm mechanics within 2.5 months. But gl its 4x 2h ... | ||
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spalding
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On July 03 2013 03:27 SoOJuuu wrote: Whats the 2% you ask? Find a very cheeky/cheesy P or T build and learn it and do it every match(honestly dont think you can pick up zerg right now and win with some bad all ins, theyre not as strong as P and T cant be) Which cheesy T build gets you into GM on EU? | ||
jyuj
Australia103 Posts
On July 02 2013 23:43 Lorch wrote: Unless you pick na/sea server or you literally play 10+ hours a day, this should not be possible. But have fun trying, it is still a way superior game compared to what you apparently played before, and 1 v 1 is about 500 times better than the silly team crap they put in. EU is much easier than NA, Korean > North America > Europe > South East Asia | ||
YouthSC
United Kingdom355 Posts
On July 03 2013 06:12 jyuj wrote: EU is much easier than NA, Korean > North America > Europe > South East Asia I think you are the only one who thinks that. | ||
JamesArk
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On July 03 2013 06:10 spalding wrote: Which cheesy T build gets you into GM on EU? Hellbat drop/ hellbat all in/ hellbat pressure/ 3 cc hellbat opening/ 1 base hellbat/ 2 base hellbat / double hellbat drop/ 2 fact hellbat | ||
Godwrath
Spain10126 Posts
On July 03 2013 06:12 jyuj wrote: EU is much easier than NA, Korean > Korea 2 > Europe > South East Asia I fixed it for you. | ||
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BisuDagger
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Kashll
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On July 03 2013 02:22 Cele wrote: I'd be more impressed if u made C on ICCUP in the same amount of time. ![]() As much of a broodwar elitist as I am I think GM in SC2 is much much much harder than C in ICCup (I say this as someone who was low C in ICCup at my peak but will never be GM in my life). | ||
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Manifesto7
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tymt
Sweden293 Posts
Good luck OP! I'm looking forward to the rage. | ||
Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On July 03 2013 06:29 BisuDagger wrote: To all you haters who read the OP instead of just the title like all good forum posters know to do. He said Run to grandmasters. I think I've said enough for now. Yeah, he's talking about a run to the best dojo in town, amirite? GL OP | ||
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BisuDagger
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On July 03 2013 06:51 CecilSunkure wrote: You need to eat well, have physical exercise, and have a very open mind in order to Fixed | ||
{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
but all serious talk aside...its gonna be tough but at least u got a goal. | ||
Straylight
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CecilSunkure
United States2829 Posts
lol, your version would also be true! | ||
Nibbler89
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On July 03 2013 01:02 SupLilSon wrote: I hate to burst your bubble, but there are lots of casual players who are very high master/GM. Depending on what race he plays and the manner in which he wishes to reach GM I think this is entirely possible. On July 03 2013 01:12 Nerchio wrote: Play protoss These 3 back to back posts made the blog for me. | ||
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BisuDagger
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On July 03 2013 08:20 Nibbler89 wrote: These 3 back to back posts made the blog for me. I didn't make the cut ![]() | ||
Jan1997
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I wish you the best of luck man gl. | ||
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Ler
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PassiveAce
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rEalGuapo
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
I don't think anyone has done that in less than a year. But if you think speedrunning relatively trivial games makes you proficient in SC2... Good luck? | ||
biology]major
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Requiem-
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Chairman Ray
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Ler
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NarutO
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Ler
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virpi
Germany3598 Posts
All-inning should take you pretty far into master league, but you'll hit a wall soon, unless your control is godlike. (which I doubt from what I've read here) Anyway, good luck. | ||
Ler
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Ler
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Ler
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Kalingingsong
Canada633 Posts
if you keep it up for 2.5 months it would be an achievement in itself even if you don't get to GM. gl | ||
scypio
Poland2127 Posts
I'm sure you can find some advice vs Zerg in the Strategy forum... | ||
Ler
Germany543 Posts
And yes, I am still up to this. Actually my PvZ is gett8ing better every game I play since I learned how to put preassue / denie an early third and get up my own third. | ||
Ler
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Laddering NA Live Now | ||
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