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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
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felisconcolori
United States6169 Posts
Honestly, in large corporate environments, most of the HR people write listings which essentially require you to already do the exact job wanted for some period of time beforehand, even for positions which you can literally not have ever held outside of their company. (There are also humorous examples of tech positions requiring things like 5 years of experience in programming languages and/or technologies that have not existed that long.) I've brought it up elsewhere in a different blog, that there is less of a skill gap or education gap in the world and more of an expectations gap. I've spent the past 10 years working in a security related field that, while sometimes tedious and obnoxious, has been fairly good. You want to know my "prior security experience"? I was a systems administrator, so of course I knew about computer security. (The type of physical security work I do now is completely different, but it does help being the guy that knows computers even when I'm disallowed to actually install printers.) + Show Spoiler + It's not really just physical security, but that's the best generalization I can get. When in doubt, apply anyways. If the process involves an "application form", you get pretty quick filling them in as most are almost identical. Resumes, cover letters, they take a little more work and time, but you should also be learning more about what you've done and how it fits the buzzword oriented hiring cultures as you do it. One of the better points in my many attempts to get a better job is that not getting the job rarely bothers me (except when there's stupidity, but that's neither here nor there) but I view each opening as a challenge in finding how I can fit what I have done to what they are looking for as best as I can, without lying. And yeah, some jobs I know I don't qualify for in the least, but if I don't apply I won't know what could happen. And I've gotten at least one very lovely rejection letter for a position I knew I wasn't going to get (can you say "representing the country at a Cabinet level overseas"?) that at least puts my name somewhere in the vicinity of the radar. (Also had some good suggestions.) Most applications are put into the system, and you never hear about it again. But if you don't put them in, you deny yourself the chance of even hearing about how you didn't fit (which gives you a way to address that in the future). And of course, you'll never get hired without applying to start with. TL;dr - Apply anyway. The worst thing that could happen is nothing - and that's exactly what will happen if you don't. But you might be surprised and hear back. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
I know with my 9 months of volunteer work (during training) in a school i was able to land a job in a montessori because of it. | ||
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Meow-Meow
Germany451 Posts
When I was about to work full-time, I wrote 7 applications and got 7 job offers, now that I want to work part time during college I wrote 7 applications again and didn't get a single reply, not even a negative one. I even applied to a chain grocery store as a cashier and didn't hear back, despite having 2 years experience in sales, 3 years experience in customer care and really good grades in school. I must be doing something very wrong. | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6169 Posts
On May 26 2013 17:51 Meow-Meow wrote: Is it customary to get negative replies for applications in the US? When I was about to work full-time, I wrote 7 applications and got 7 job offers, now that I want to work part time during college I wrote 7 applications again and didn't get a single reply, not even a negative one. I even applied to a chain grocery store as a cashier and didn't hear back, despite having 2 years experience in sales, 3 years experience in customer care and really good grades in school. I must be doing something very wrong. In the US, you will generally not receive any reply unless you're hired for a wide swath of positions. Most especially for any large chains. There are also other things that can pop up. A follow up phone call or visit can be worthwhile. | ||
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Eben
United States769 Posts
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Meow-Meow
Germany451 Posts
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Race is Terran
United States382 Posts
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Meow-Meow
Germany451 Posts
I got three replies now that basically say: "We won't give you what you want, which is a part-time job, but we'd love to have you as a full-time employee." Which is basically the job-equivalent of getting friendzoned... | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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Race is Terran
United States382 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On May 27 2013 23:12 Meow-Meow wrote: Rejection isn't the worst that can happen. I got three replies now that basically say: "We won't give you what you want, which is a part-time job, but we'd love to have you as a full-time employee." Which is basically the job-equivalent of getting friendzoned... That's more like "No I'm not looking for a fuck buddy, but I'll certainly date". | ||
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Rimstalker
Germany734 Posts
I have seen interns get 'needs 3+ years experience in corporate compliance' jobs. edit: On May 27 2013 04:44 felisconcolori wrote: In the US, you will generally not receive any reply unless you're hired for a wide swath of positions. Most especially for any large chains. There are also other things that can pop up. A follow up phone call or visit can be worthwhile. it is quite common in the US to do a follow up call. Hiring culture there is quite different, as the timeframes involved in the US are way shorter. In Germany, you are quite often looking at being able to leave your job around 4 months after giving your notice. In the US, this can be as little as minutes, so people shop for jobs a lot more. It is also way more acceptable to change jobs for reasons like 'shorter commute'. | ||
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