EPT3 Pokemon Challenge HELP
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rYnes
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On April 16 2013 11:12 rYnes wrote: I am playing leaf green from the start. My brother is playing fire red. We are doing 3 man teams. No legendary pokemon. What is the best teams and combos! And if you can.. Add an explanation of why. I am not very educated on combos. I just know that they are out there. THANKS! :D When I beat the game i used Vaporeon and it pretty much swept everyone by itself tbh. I'd say like Charizard/Vaporeon/random electric maybe? here | ||
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PedroBlanco
Canada65 Posts
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Epishade
United States2267 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
Now that you have a Grass-type, you need a Fire- and Water-type to round out your team. Gyarados is a fantastic option for a Water-type, since his Attack is through the roof, and his defenses are surprisingly good for a Pokemon with a 4x weakness to Electric. Another great choice is Starmie, who possesses great all-around stats and a really nice movepool. Either one is a superb option, but you have plenty of other choices, like Vaporeon or Lapras. Choose what you'd rather have more: a solid defensive Pokemon or a hard-hitting Pokemon. Fire is more difficult to choose, since there are very few available when compared to Grass- and Water-types. Your best shot would have probably been Arcanine, who is similar to Gyarados with his great bulk and attacking stats. The problem with Arcanine is that despite his attacking stats, he simply doesn't have too many moves to take advantage of them with. On top of that, you can't even get Arcanine in LeafGreen. Therefore, a more support-oriented Pokemon like Ninetales is a good choice; her lack of defenses is made up for by her above-average Special Attack and Speed, along with her access to Will-O-Wisp. This obviously isn't set in stone, so feel free to mix and match depending upon your desires. Happy hunting! | ||
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Witten
United States2094 Posts
If you want to challenge yourself choose some crappy pokemon to make it more difficult, like an unevolved Magikarp, unevolved Kakuna/Metapod, unevolved Ratata or vanilla eevee or any baby pokemon, shouldnt be too much. | ||
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SoulTakerz
Canada353 Posts
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Horo
United States351 Posts
Earthquake Rock Slide Aerial Ace Slash | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
On April 16 2013 11:41 Witten wrote: Honestly you can just use one Pokemon and beat the whole game in most occasions. I've beat those games with a team consisting of only Pidgeot, only Lickitung, only (insert starter pokemon), only raticate, only nidoking, etc. etc. If you want to challenge yourself choose some crappy pokemon to make it more difficult, like an unevolved Magikarp, unevolved Kakuna/Metapod, unevolved Ratata or vanilla eevee or any baby pokemon, shouldnt be too much. Same lol. Beat everything with a single Pidgeot. | ||
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Steelo_Rivers
United States1968 Posts
Fly Flamethrower Cut Earthquake Alakazam Psychic Psybeam Flash Seismic Toss Gyarados Waterfall Surf Thunderbolt Strength | ||
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CeriseCherries
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id go charizard/gyrados/gengar. you can get gyrados by the time you can fish which is vermillion and gastly/haunters are catchable at lavender town which is pretty much right after that. that gives you the time to train your charmander up until you get magikarp, and gives you space for magikarp to level up. gengar is liek one of the sickest special sweepers in the game, give it shadow ball, thunderbolt, and whatever the fuck else. charizard to cover for typign and because its your starter, and venasaur is shit in like every generation except right now and blastoise gets outclassed by gyrados gyrados is strong physical sweeper with great stats and albeit a mediocre learned movepool, you can get dragon dance->waterfall going | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On April 16 2013 12:11 CeriseCherries wrote: well since play from start, shit like tyranitar is gonna be like oh fuck the game is almost over. id go charizard/gyrados/gengar. you can get gyrados by the time you can fish which is vermillion and gastly/haunters are catchable at lavender town which is pretty much right after that. that gives you the time to train your charmander up until you get magikarp, and gives you space for magikarp to level up. gengar is liek one of the sickest special sweepers in the game, give it shadow ball, thunderbolt, and whatever the fuck else. charizard to cover for typign and because its your starter, and venasaur is shit in like every generation except right now and blastoise gets outclassed by gyrados gyrados is strong physical sweeper with great stats and albeit a mediocre learned movepool, you can get dragon dance->waterfall going This is LeafGreen, so Waterfall is a special attack. Dragon Dance isn't too helpful with that move. Shadow Ball is also physical in LG, so Gengar can't really use that. | ||
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wptlzkwjd
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rYnes
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Archas
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
On April 16 2013 12:20 rYnes wrote: Here.. Let me reiterate. This is not a speed run. This is a 3 pokemon battle in 2 weeks from now. We are allowed to have HM slaves or anything we want. We just get to pick 3 pokemon on battle day. So I can get tons of pokemon and train them. Get a Snorlax with leftovers, Lapras/Jynx with blizzard or ice beam to counter almost everything, and Primeape to do fast fighting damage. Open with the Snorlax. | ||
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Steelo_Rivers
United States1968 Posts
On April 16 2013 12:20 rYnes wrote: Here.. Let me reiterate. This is not a speed run. This is a 3 pokemon battle in 2 weeks from now. We are allowed to have HM slaves or anything we want. We just get to pick 3 pokemon on battle day. So I can get tons of pokemon and train them. Ah, see I didnt know you could have HM slaves. In that case: Charizard Earthquake Flamethrower Fly Fire Blast? (maybe something else in place of this) Alakazam Psychic Psybeam Thunderpunch ?? (Insert another special move) Gyarados Surf Thunderbolt Hyper Beam Ice Beam | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37015 Posts
On April 16 2013 12:20 rYnes wrote: Here.. Let me reiterate. This is not a speed run. This is a 3 pokemon battle in 2 weeks from now. We are allowed to have HM slaves or anything we want. We just get to pick 3 pokemon on battle day. So I can get tons of pokemon and train them. You need 2 weeks to prepare 3 Pokemon? | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
Starmie with Psychic/Thunderbolt (depends on jolteon/alakazam use), Surf, Ice Beam and Recover is the most overpowered regular pokemon Alakazam's STAB'd psychic and recover along with his speed is pretty nuts too Gengar with hypnosis, giga drain, thunderbold and elemental punch is an extremely well rounded pokemon Snorlax is a fantastic physical powerhouse and tank to round out your team as all the above are weak to a special wall Pick any three of the above. Don't use alakazam and gengar. I've done it with just starmie and alakazam myself, I'd pick jolteon as third for going through the game in blazing speed. Not sure how this does with HM, I allowed replacing one pokemon with HM slaves when going through mazes EDIT: wait, this isn't beating the game with 3 pokemon? You just need 3 pokemon for a battle? In that case there are countless strategies... Impossible to say best three, only starmie from above is obvious choice. Starmie with thunderbolt, Gengar with above moves, and a curse Snorlax would be my choices | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
Gyarados/Starmie - starmie is probably easier to train in-game since a legit pre-physical/special split gyara takes some work to make Snorlax - google curselax and use that, this shit was so OP in gen 2. curse/rest/body slam or return/sleep talk iirc Alakazam - psychic + 3x elemental punches edit: honestly you can probably roll with whatever because your opponent is likely to have a charizard with 4 fire moves lol | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
Freaking, Pidgeot, Ratticate, Blastoise. That'll do it. If you want to be OP, get a psychic pokemon. FR/LG has sooooo many poison type pokemon. The only "counter" in the entire first gen list is the retconned steel type magneton. Otherwise there are 0 resistances. Starter, Alakazam, Mewtwo. Beat the game with 2 pokemon. Catch mewtwo. 3 man team. EDIT: Ooohhhhh competitive-ish teams? Check out smogon or something. I've lost many hours just browsing builds and stuff there. | ||
Heyoka
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babylon
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& then get another Pokemon that you can use to transfer a speed boost to Marowak. One of the hardest hitters in the game if set up correctly. | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
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InfernoStarcraft
Australia136 Posts
On April 16 2013 13:41 Kraznaya wrote: most of the advice in this thread is horrible, use smogon to search for RSE (3rd generation builds) and see which ones you can actually obtain, and then go with that. Thank you. Also lol at people suggesting 2 turn moves. Its easy to counter something that you know is coming. Also protect is good i hear. also charizard sucks vs stealth rocks. | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
On April 16 2013 13:48 InfernoStarcraft wrote: Thank you. Also lol at people suggesting 2 turn moves. Its easy to counter something that you know is coming. Also protect is good i hear. also charizard sucks vs stealth rocks. speaking of horrible advice, preparing for stealth rocks in FR/LG is one | ||
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MinscandBoo
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On April 16 2013 13:48 InfernoStarcraft wrote: Thank you. Also lol at people suggesting 2 turn moves. Its easy to counter something that you know is coming. Also protect is good i hear. also charizard sucks vs stealth rocks. stealth rock was introduced in Gen IV. ^^ As the earlier guy mentioned, Curselax is good, but you have to breed Curse into it. =/ Breeding... *sigh* Body Slam on Snorlax is awesome (its STAB and paralysis is great). Rest is essential to remove any conditions he puts on you and also to recover HP. Body Slam Earthquake / Flamethrower / Fire Blast (Accuracy vs Power) / Shadow Ball / Brick Break Curse (Breeding Snorlax with Curse really isn't that bad.) Rest Fire/Shadow Ball hits Ghosts which Snorlax will greatly appreciates but you already have Shadow Ball on Crobat. Nevertheless Shadow Ball can still be viable if he has Gengar. Earthquake won't touch Gengar and Flamethrower with Snorlax's poor Special Attack stat wont hit it especially hard. Gengar is a big issue because if you spend a lot of time bulking up with Curse and he brings in Gengar and you don't have Shadow Ball you are going to cry very manly tears. At this point your Fire doesn't add too much to your type coverage. Grass is already covered with Ice, Bug is uncommon and often share Flying meaning Electric covers you there, and Steel is covered by Ground(Earthquake) if you get that. Your other option is Brick Break to hit Normal, Ice and Dark. But that doesn't add much either, only really Normal types are likely to be seen. OR Rest Sleep Talk Body Slam Earthquake Starmie is great, and since your on Leaf you can get him w/out trading! Its also pretty accessible. Level your Staryu to level 15 to get Recover then evolve it ASAP for the better stats from its evolution. Of course if you want Hydro Pump then you have to get it higher but I always prefer Surf for the accuracy and its also a HM(which isnt a concern here I guess but whatever) Surf/Hydro Pump (Again, Accuracy vs Power) Thunderbolt Ice Beam Recover Then... Crobat! Crobat is DOUBLY resistant to those Fighting types that we still don't hit effectively and can get Aerial Ace to hit them hard back! yay! Sludge Bomb Shadow Ball Giga Drain (Consider other options here. I put it here to help Crobat against Rock types but you could get Confuse Ray to troll hard or Safeguard/Taunt if he has a condition heavy team.) Aerial Ace Or maybe Weezing for Fighting resistance. Sludge Bomb Haze / Flamethower (Haze removes Stat boosts like if he starts using Swords Dance, etc. But he might not be using any, so it could end up being a dud! Dovie'andi se tovya sagain - It's time to toss the dice!) Explosion Pain Split / Rest Last option I can think of is a pokemon to set up Spikes and/or Sleep/Poison/Paralyze things. Cloyster: Spikes Rapid Spin (If he has any guys setting up Spikes on his team) Surf/Ice Beam Explosion / Ice Beam / Rest Exeggutor: Psychic Sleep Powder Leech Seed / Giga Drain Explosion Using the Team: Snorlax absorbs conditions by Rest'ing them off, powers up with Curse and hits hard with Body Slam and Earthquake. If he tries to bring in a Fighting, its Crobat to the rescue! Crobat also saves Starmie from those Grass types too! Starmie is great all around and can stick around a long time with Recover while shutting down his Flying, Dragon, Rock, Ground, and Water types. Try to predict him switching in a Grass type to threaten your Starmie and hit it with an Ice Beam! Shamelessly took alot of this from Smogon (http://www.smogon.com/rs/tiers/) and got immense help from Bulbapedia (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page) I subbed out Hidden Powers for other stuff because breeding the correct hidden power makes me a saaad panda. 3x5 notecards ftw. | ||
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affinity
United States266 Posts
I don't know if setting up spikes will be worth it, since it's a 3v3 battle. In my opinion, having a tank + 2 sweepers (or vice versa) might be more effective. I'm not sure, though. Make sure to train your EVs though. If your opponent has no idea about that, and you have properly EV'd pokemon, this should be a walk in the park. | ||
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Arceus
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MinscandBoo
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On April 16 2013 16:14 affinity wrote: A belly drum/extreme speed set for linoone will probably 1hko everything if he isn't prepared for it. Belly drum is learned via leveling up; I'm not sure how extremespeed is learned, but apparently it's by putting 100 pokemon in a box? (source: http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/263.shtml) I don't know if setting up spikes will be worth it, since it's a 3v3 battle. In my opinion, having a tank + 2 sweepers (or vice versa) might be more effective. I'm not sure, though. Make sure to train your EVs though. If your opponent has no idea about that, and you have properly EV'd pokemon, this should be a walk in the park. He can't get Linoone unless he trades from Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald though. Yeah EV's are good not sure how effectively he can train them since he only has 2 weeks to presumably beat the game, hunt down whatever pokemon, level them up and acquire what TM's he needs. | ||
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affinity
United States266 Posts
I guess another thing that you could do is abuse spore (no sleep clause, i think!). Might be too lame, though. | ||
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
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TOCHMY
Sweden1692 Posts
Hey man some people can't play every hour every day. We have jobs T_T | ||
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salehonasi
United States87 Posts
If you have time for breeding, definitely run Curselax, that thing is monstrous in Gen 3, and your alakazam can eliminate any problematic fighting types. Curse, Body Slam, Rest, and Shadow Ball is probably best; I say shadow ball over earthquake because the only steel you should be facing is magneton. Those are actually the only two you should need, considering how powerful they are in a Gen 3, Gen 1 only pokemon battle. For the hell of it though, I'd recommend the oft-overlooked Tauros. Though not as OP as it was in the first gen, 3rd Gen Tauros has Choice Band. Return and Double Edge are your primary moves, depending on whether you want longevity or raw power. Earthquake will take out any rock-types that aren't Aerodactyl (Who Curselax should be able to easily outstall) and the last move is fairly irrelevant, so I'd go with Toxic, just in case your opponent manages to set something up that you need to force to switch out. So: Alakazam w/ Leftovers(or whatever) Max Speed, Sp, Attack EVs Calm mind Psychic Fire Punch Thunderpunch/Ice Punch* I'd advise Ice Punch to hit Dragonite, but Thunderpunch let's you hit Starmie more reliably Snorlax w/ Leftovers Max HP, Attack Evs Curse Body Slam Shadow Ball Earthquake Tauros w/ Choice Band Max Attack, Speed EVs Return Double Edge Earthquake Toxic I assume you don't want to spend time with natures (just try to not get crappy ones) but it's definitely worth the time to breed Curse onto snorlax, and get the right EVs. If you don't understand either one, look it up; pokemon is a much deeper RPG than most people realize. Final note: Gengar. At first glance, he seems extremely powerful against this team, but unless your friend is savvy enough to run Focus Punch on his gengar, Snorlax will laugh off anything Gengar does, and if he does know to run focus punch, he'll know enough to not use a ghost move, and alakazam can switch in freely and outrun him for a quick Psychic kill. | ||
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yokohama
United States1116 Posts
On April 16 2013 12:37 Kyuukyuu wrote: Oh he's talking about just a 3v3 battle, not which 3 pokes to use to beat the game with. In which case I would go with Gyarados/Starmie - starmie is probably easier to train in-game since a legit pre-physical/special split gyara takes some work to make Snorlax - google curselax and use that, this shit was so OP in gen 2. curse/rest/body slam or return/sleep talk iirc Alakazam - psychic + 3x elemental punches edit: honestly you can probably roll with whatever because your opponent is likely to have a charizard with 4 fire moves lol I'd say the most successful Pokemon I ever had was a Starmie with max EVs in Speed and Sp. Attack with the leftovers in Sp. Def, with Psychic, Thunder, Surf, and Ice Beam. Unless I was playing against a Blissey with max HP evs, I pretty much tore through anyone that ever came at me. I would 100% say make one of the 3 monsters Starmie. You could even switch out Ice Beam for Rapid Spin to get rid of spikes. | ||
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HereBeDragons
1429 Posts
They're a competitive pokemon community and have a huge database of properly refined strategies and combos. It would most likely always be better than random things people come up with. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On April 16 2013 16:18 MinscandBoo wrote: He can't get Linoone unless he trades from Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald though. Yeah EV's are good not sure how effectively he can train them since he only has 2 weeks to presumably beat the game, hunt down whatever pokemon, level them up and acquire what TM's he needs. You can beat the game in a day or two and get started on the other stuff tbh. | ||
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