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Nikoras
United States115 Posts
A full adult human being has: A professional life or interest A love life Music preferences Art preferences (I lump in movies, plays, and books in here) Friends Family (not necessarily by blood) Traveled Something to look forward to Something fond to look back on A space to call their own   | ||
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Tommie
China658 Posts
Sure Are escort girls a love life? | ||
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Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
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Tommie
China658 Posts
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FryBender
United States290 Posts
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FatNikE
United Kingdom52 Posts
On April 12 2013 05:44 Kasaraki wrote: I understand your list, and these are very typical things we use to measure people by. But, I think, perhaps these are merely means to an end? Friends for the sake of friendship makes no sense. What is the real reason to want these things? If you find the real reason, you'll find that there are many paths to that goal, each legitimate in it's own right. Or so I think anyway. Yeah, this. This list seems very weird, I'm not really sure what the "meaning" behind it is. "Somehow forgot my name, She blew out the flame, A means to an end... Can't even be friends, it's a song about a friend." I mean, for a lot of people "music" isn't important at all. Hence, modern pop music. To me, music is poetry and emotions and would not only be in the "art" part of your list, but comprise most of it. but to a lot of people it is meaningless. | ||
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Kalingingsong
Canada633 Posts
On April 12 2013 05:35 Nikoras wrote: Have you ever met that one person? The wierdo who you feel kinda bad for because they're half a person? This got me thinking of what it means to be a full person, experiencing the full range of everything a person should. So I started making a little mental list of what it means to be a full human being. This is what I came up with. A full adult human being has: A professional life or interest A love life Music preferences Art preferences (I lump in movies, plays, and books in here) Friends Family (not necessarily by blood) Traveled Something to look forward to Something fond to look back on A space to call their own we only talking about North America or Europe here? Lots of people in the third world can't have anything of the bolded things. Do you consider them to be half persons? (if the answer is yes, then you are spoiled) | ||
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matiK23
United States963 Posts
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Bommes
Germany1226 Posts
On April 12 2013 05:35 Nikoras wrote: Have you ever met that one person? The wierdo who you feel kinda bad for because they're half a person? [...] If you think of other people that way, I think you are the weirdo. I feel bad for you. | ||
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Nikoras
United States115 Posts
we only talking about North America or Europe here? Lots of people in the third world can't have anything of the bolded things. Do you consider them to be half persons? (if the answer is yes, then you are spoiled) Distance doesn't matter, I consider "traveling" spending time (several days maybe) outside of familiar places. Some people have never left their home town and that strikes me as missing out on a piece of the human experience. When I said a space to call their own, I didn't mean a space they physically or legally own. For example I have a little hiking spot that I certainly don't own, but it's a place I can go when the world is just too much for me to handle. Maybe that was poor phrasing on my part. Maybe that should be "A place they can feel comfortable and safe." I realize that some people don't have this but it does feel like they are missing a piece of something important when they don't. Perhaps my tone was too accusatory, maybe I read too many adventure books, and maybe I am spoiled. But it seems to me like when people in the third world have these things robbed of them through an unfair global economic system yes, they are missing out. | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
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Kalingingsong
Canada633 Posts
But then we can also add some more things like: have succeeded at something, and have failed at something, something to be proud of, something to be grateful for etc etc.. | ||
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Nikoras
United States115 Posts
On April 12 2013 06:25 Kalingingsong wrote: I think this list has some merit if we are only talking about experiences here. But then we can also add some more things like: have succeeded at something, and have failed at something, something to be proud of, something to be grateful for etc etc.. Yeah I really like this. I missed those things along with "has a hobby or interest in something." | ||
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
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Nikoras
United States115 Posts
On April 12 2013 06:34 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: Weirdos are more often than not not "half-people". They're people who are fundamentally different from normal people in some ways, whether it be finding flowers disgusting or having a train of thought that just doesn't follow a normal path. I agree, and I really regret my wording there. It just feels to me like someone missing something from that list is missing a piece of themselves to me. I'm very aware that I'm a white male living in a first world country. I am very privileged (although I didn't hit the complete genetic lottery but I won't get into that here). I am also aware that this list is entirely relative from my own perspective, and someone from subsaharan Africa would probably come up with a very different list. | ||
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Carbonyl
United States334 Posts
On April 12 2013 05:49 Tommie wrote: The goal is to decompose. That is where it all leads to. Isn't the goal to not decompose for as long as possible? | ||
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im a roc
United States745 Posts
On April 12 2013 06:48 Nikoras wrote: I agree, and I really regret my wording there. It just feels to me like someone missing something from that list is missing a piece of themselves to me. I'm very aware that I'm a white male living in a first world country. I am very privileged (although I didn't hit the complete genetic lottery but I won't get into that here). I am also aware that this list is entirely relative from my own perspective, and someone from subsaharan Africa would probably come up with a very different list. I wonder if there's possibly some acceptable universal list that more or less spans culture and maybe time period. TL philosophy majors, ATTACK! | ||
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