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archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
March 28 2013 14:34 GMT
#1
I just came up with an idea. How much more do Koreans practice versus EU/NA? I looked up sc2ranks.com and calculated the total games (wins + losses) played by the top 100 GM player so far this season. I think that ladder practice can be a good indicator.

You can believe in my assumption if you agree with that laddering is a proxy for practice and if one account corresponds to one person.

So as of this moment the average top 100 GM player in:
Korea has played ~319 games
EU has played ~197 games
AM has played ~178 games

The average starcraft game is said to be around 20 minutes so those games translates into:

319 games ~ 106 hours
197 games ~ 66 hours
178 games ~ 59 hours

Since Season Twelve started on March 12, 16 days has passed. A daily average is then easily calculated.

106 hours ~ 6,65 hours ~ 6 hours and 30 something minutes per day.
66 hours ~ 4,14 hours ~ 4 hours and around 15 minutes per day.
59 hours ~ 3,71 hours ~ 3 hours and 40 plus minutes per day.

Foreigners should practice more! Although the comparison might me off since there are more actual pro gamers in Korea. Another note to think about is the Korean vs foreigner skill gap and how much less it could be if foreigners practiced more.

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ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-28 14:57:13
March 28 2013 14:55 GMT
#2
You can't judge off ladder and GM alone, plenty of foreigners practice on the KR ladder. You might have someone from EU GM there listed as 4 hours, but then they might do an extra 2 hours in KR masters.

Also plenty of people simply might not put as much time into laddering (across all regions) and instead play private matchmaking with people around the same level doing specific strategys
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Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
March 28 2013 15:01 GMT
#3
On March 28 2013 23:55 ReignSupreme. wrote:
You can't judge off ladder and GM alone, plenty of foreigners practice on the KR ladder. You might have someone from EU GM there listed as 4 hours, but then they might do an extra 2 hours in KR masters.

Also plenty of people simply might not put as much time into laddering (across all regions) and instead play private matchmaking with people around the same level doing specific strategys


Or, lets just jump to the most obvious conclusion: Koreans practice more than their European and American counterparts.
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
March 28 2013 15:27 GMT
#4
On March 29 2013 00:01 Recognizable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 23:55 ReignSupreme. wrote:
You can't judge off ladder and GM alone, plenty of foreigners practice on the KR ladder. You might have someone from EU GM there listed as 4 hours, but then they might do an extra 2 hours in KR masters.

Also plenty of people simply might not put as much time into laddering (across all regions) and instead play private matchmaking with people around the same level doing specific strategys


Or, lets just jump to the most obvious conclusion: Koreans practice more than their European and American counterparts.


Sure, they most likely do. I'm just saying it's not accurate to judge off laddering, and GM across the regions only.
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
March 28 2013 15:42 GMT
#5
Laddering seems to be at least 50% of the time of the total practicing time so it is a proxy but it's far from perfect.
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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
March 28 2013 15:43 GMT
#6
And I'd dare to say that KeSPA pros practice 8h per day minimum.
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