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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-19 22:15:05
March 24 2013 07:14 GMT
#1
i recently came up with an insanely efficient hotkey layout, took me quite a while to figure everything out but im extremely satisfied with the end result. i can also post the hotkey file if needed

Hotkey:

qwer = f keys
`1234 = units (` rebinded from 0)
5 = robo
6 = robo and stargate (for rally purposes)
Caps(re-binded from 9) = stargate
tab(re-binded from 8) = nexus's
7=free hotkey

(plz note: these are only suggestions. you can bind your hotkeys however you want, this is just how i personally do it)

the only downside to this layout is that i had to change several spell/unit/building hotkeys so it'll take a while to get used to everything. having ur fkeys on qwer is way too baller to pass up on tho, it just makes everything much more efficient/faster. plus my new hotkey rebinds are very ergonomically friendly, i really dont feel any unnecessary strain on my fingers. heres a breakdown:

UNITS:

Probe: F
MoCore: G
Sentry: A
DT: C
Immortal: S
Oracle: F

Spells/Abilities/Upgrades:

Patrol: Z
Warpprism: Phasing Mode = F, Transport Mode = T, Unload = C
Voidray: Thingy Alignement = F
Oracle: Deactivate Pusar beam = F, Active Pulsar beam = C
Carrier: Interceptor = C
Mothership: Recall = C
Thermal Lance: T
Air attack (cyber core): S

Buildings:

Pylon: V
Robo: A
DT Shrine: G
***Warpgate: D <- spent alot of time on this, i intially had my warpgates on Caps and probes on D but it felt too uncomfortable/unnatural

the reason why i believe this layout is way more efficient than the regular f key method is because having ur nex's on tab + ur f keys on qwer allows you to cycle/chrono through them extremely fast, as opposed to having to reach all the way up to ur f keys and back down to chrono. also, i went with d for warpgates because i didnt feel comfortable hotkeying my gates, i initially had them on caps and then 4 but neither of those felt fast enough, having it on d allows u to reach all ur units effortlessly(c,z,s,a,t). u guys could easily modify stuff like that tho, i personally prefer having 1+ hotkey for my units.

plz feel free to give any feedback or suggestions

EDIT: http://www.2shared.com/file/W210kb8r/TT1_new_key.html (hotkey file)

***
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peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
March 24 2013 07:23 GMT
#2
I personally use 1234567 area and qwertyu as control groups as a toss player hell yeah it's more convenient than f1f2f3

Cheers!

Too used to wc3 though so tab and shift are unchanged. And yeah ~ nexus and qw buildings. So ea ra at beats 1a 2a 3a any day
the throws never bothered me anyway
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 24 2013 07:34 GMT
#3
Wow you nerd back in my day we just DEALT WITH IT with what we were given - target
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
March 24 2013 07:35 GMT
#4
On March 24 2013 16:34 sicklucker wrote:
Wow you nerd back in my day we just DEALT WITH IT with what we were given - target


fuck that theres a reason why i play protoss
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ROOTMaSa
Profile Joined August 2011
10 Posts
March 24 2013 07:35 GMT
#5
1 unit
2 structure
win
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
March 24 2013 07:36 GMT
#6
what a tryhard
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n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 10:05:47
March 24 2013 10:05 GMT
#7
(` rebinded from 0)


mind = blown

why can't we all be geniuses

gosu layout btw, almost felt like switching to toss for it
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
March 24 2013 11:18 GMT
#8
On March 24 2013 19:05 n0ise wrote:
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(` rebinded from 0)


mind = blown

why can't we all be geniuses

gosu layout btw, almost felt like switching to toss for it

wow I'm going to start using that immediately
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BiLaL.645
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States34 Posts
March 24 2013 12:12 GMT
#9
could you please post the hotkey file? I want start using this first thing tomorrow.
Sidetrack
Profile Joined April 2012
17 Posts
March 24 2013 13:23 GMT
#10
Looks good, could you post the hotkey file please
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SnowfaLL
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada730 Posts
March 24 2013 13:31 GMT
#11
Sounds good.

As one player whos been playing BW/WC3 with standard keys since 2000 to another long-time player, How difficult is it to change your hotkey setup and feel "comfortable" with it?? I never did it in wc3 because I was used to my BW days, but now with the addition of the MsC I find myself running out of space on the standard 1-0..

Hmm I guess the best option is to find my own optimized setup, then just play like 100+ team games or something not as intense as to get comfortable before playing 1v1 again. I also stupidly started with H.O.T Forever style hotkeying (hatchs from 1-4, units 5+) and switching to Protoss in SC2 makes that kinda awkward lol Nexus/Gates/Robo/SG on 1-4 and units on 5-6-7
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TwilightRain
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany351 Posts
March 24 2013 13:55 GMT
#12
Tried using 12345678 for camera hotkeys and qwertyuio for control groups with the rest (asdfghzxcvbn) for everything else as zerg , but just couldn't get used to it (fuck muscle memory ), ended up losing chunks of my main army cause I jumped to my expo instead of selecting my army. Also, IMO, for some actions (lategame units / casters, upgrades, addons) it's more important to just not "mispress" a wrong key a couple of times than doing it as fast as possible.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
March 24 2013 13:58 GMT
#13
A trick you can use is to bind some spells to multiple hotkeys next to each other. For instance, if you have trouble hitting I for Immortal correctly always, you can have it bound to both U and I.

Changing hotkeys is a pain though, it would always take me a few days of playing on a slower, more deliberate pace to get used to them.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
March 24 2013 14:22 GMT
#14
Texmex so tryhard.

It's really nice, but I am a massive anti-fan of the use of X. Requires too much movement for big hands...
#freeshauni
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
March 24 2013 15:37 GMT
#15
qwer = f keys



f keys?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
March 24 2013 15:39 GMT
#16
On March 25 2013 00:37 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
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qwer = f keys



f keys?

Q = F1, W = F2, E = F3, R = F4
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NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 15:44:07
March 24 2013 15:44 GMT
#17
On March 25 2013 00:39 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 00:37 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
qwer = f keys



f keys?

Q = F1, W = F2, E = F3, R = F4



OH.. durr :D

Thanks
Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 16:40:59
March 24 2013 16:40 GMT
#18
It really doesn't take long to get used to a new hotkey setup, i have changed mine multiple times, and i am thinking about doing it again, as the f keys on my keyboard are waaaay too far away, and i am getting annoy at having "s" as my main army, as moving my middle finger downwards as opposed to sideways feels too slow.

Also, spacebar as a-move is pretty good.

Currently i have:

1 nexus + forges
2 gates
3 robo
4 stargate

s main group
` far group (eg phoenix)
caps templar/collos
a mship core

wertyg is all spells/building units. so forcefield is w, so is storm, so is build zealot, so is build observer or phoenix etc.

edit: also, have d as patrol, f as hold position
The world is ending what should we do about it?
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
March 24 2013 16:51 GMT
#19
On March 25 2013 00:44 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 00:39 Firebolt145 wrote:
On March 25 2013 00:37 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
qwer = f keys



f keys?

Q = F1, W = F2, E = F3, R = F4



OH.. durr :D

Thanks

Wow... mind blown. TT1 is a layout god.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
March 24 2013 17:02 GMT
#20
I would really advise against having built advance structure on x, as anything that you need to use that quickly and that often all the way down there, when all your other keys are high up on the keyboard can slow you down, either have it further to the right and use your thumb, or just higher up if i were you.

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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 24 2013 17:40 GMT
#21
How often do you really use 'build advanced structure?' Like 5 times a game?
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
March 24 2013 18:06 GMT
#22
On March 25 2013 02:40 ShadowDrgn wrote:
How often do you really use 'build advanced structure?' Like 5 times a game?


fair enough, maybe i didn't think it through
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RemarK
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States452 Posts
March 24 2013 18:35 GMT
#23
What do you use to tab through spellcaster abilities? Or do you not rely on that since you have so many unit hotkeys?

"the reason why i believe this layout is way more efficient than the regular f key method is because having ur nex's on tab + ur f keys on qwer allows you to cycle through ur nexus's and chrono extremely fast, as opposed to having to reach all the way up to ur f keys and back down to chrono."

Having the camera hotkeys on qwer sounds really convenient, I was able to get around that by just binding base camera to one of the side buttons on my mouse so whenever I want to chrono all my nexus I just spam 5c + mouse button to cycle through all the bases really quickly. Also, did you rebind spacebar to anything else?
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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
March 24 2013 18:37 GMT
#24
I tried and it works like shit
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
March 24 2013 19:01 GMT
#25
protoss needs fkeys in sc2?!
Caliber
Profile Joined August 2010
United States598 Posts
March 24 2013 19:04 GMT
#26
nice camera hotkeys... ooh wait
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
March 24 2013 19:38 GMT
#27
uploaded the hotkey file http://depositfiles.com/files/xgvv06kdr
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 20:46:10
March 24 2013 19:42 GMT
#28
On March 25 2013 03:35 RemarK wrote:
What do you use to tab through spellcaster abilities? Or do you not rely on that since you have so many unit hotkeys?

"the reason why i believe this layout is way more efficient than the regular f key method is because having ur nex's on tab + ur f keys on qwer allows you to cycle through ur nexus's and chrono extremely fast, as opposed to having to reach all the way up to ur f keys and back down to chrono."

Having the camera hotkeys on qwer sounds really convenient, I was able to get around that by just binding base camera to one of the side buttons on my mouse so whenever I want to chrono all my nexus I just spam 5c + mouse button to cycle through all the bases really quickly. Also, did you rebind spacebar to anything else?


i dont need to use tab because of all my excess hotkeys, u can always rebind it to spacebar or something
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
GrayFox-
Profile Joined January 2013
50 Posts
March 24 2013 23:30 GMT
#29
wow everything made more compliated than needed whatta brownie
FlamingKitty
Profile Joined March 2012
United States74 Posts
March 25 2013 05:57 GMT
#30
Woah Holy shit this is really cute... i think i will actually start using this :O
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
March 26 2013 03:46 GMT
#31
made a few changes

probe=c
chrono=f
mocore=v
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
March 26 2013 16:03 GMT
#32
1 mothership core
2 nexus
3 scouting probe/ rest of nexus
4 production buildings
5 All army

yes, i play protoss, you don't need more than this if you know how to use tab ctrl click and shift click
"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
March 26 2013 16:31 GMT
#33
5 unit hotkeys?
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-26 21:33:36
March 26 2013 21:31 GMT
#34
I don't even know what F1-F4 do lol we talking screen hotkeys here? On qwer? Seems overkill lol This is how it is boys:

1 All Nexi
2 Most Army
3 Something Important from army
4 robo
5 stargate

gg lol
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Negatiive
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada207 Posts
March 28 2013 00:45 GMT
#35
holy shit this is genius
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FrogsAreDogs
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada181 Posts
March 28 2013 06:06 GMT
#36
[B]

Caps(re-binded from 0) = use however u want. i personally hotkey my proxy pylons w/ it
tab(re-binded from 9) = nexus's



Hello,

I noticed you use Caps and Tab for hotkeys. Do you think those keys are easy to use and to bind, verses for example, r, f, v for hotkeys? Wouldn't ctrl+Caps, ctrl+Tab be awkward on the fingers, or does it work fine for you?

Thanks,
YO
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26078 Posts
March 28 2013 09:49 GMT
#37
Argh I wish I had the balls to commit to such a radical layout, seems interesting.

I use both Q, Tab and ` as unit hotkeys though, for anyone asking about them it's perfectly fine hitting ctrl + them.

I would love to use caps as one, but for some annoying reason it doesn't register every other time. For whatever reason it works only when caps is switched on, but not when I use it the second time, if that makes sense. Double-tapping would be a bit inefficient
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MilExo
Profile Joined September 2011
South Africa139 Posts
June 08 2013 11:21 GMT
#38
Only now stumbled across this thread - it looks really interesting. Sorry for bumping, but the link to DepositFiles doesn't work anymore. Can someone please upload this hotkey layout if they have it? Thanks
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 20:11:30
June 27 2013 20:04 GMT
#39
re-uploaded the hotkey file
http://www.2shared.com/file/W210kb8r/TT1_new_key.html
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
July 07 2013 08:18 GMT
#40
I like the idea behind having f keys right there. how long did it take you to get used to this?
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
August 13 2013 18:11 GMT
#41
im still getting used to them, i had to stop playing sc2 due to rsi issues right when i came up with this layout. started playing 1 week ago, still adjusting to the change. its going well tho
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
August 13 2013 18:19 GMT
#42
updated the OP with a few changes i made
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Ponchmeister
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States73 Posts
August 14 2013 00:02 GMT
#43
thank you based payam
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