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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 08:43:37
March 04 2013 08:19 GMT
#1
I'm at Season 8 of the succesful sitcom called: Friends. It's about six friends living in New York City going through their lives in various ways and growing together. This is my third time watching it (haven't seen them all in so many years) and perhaps my least enjoyed one for the following reason.

This entry has huge spoilers from the sitcom named Friends, do not read further if you have Friends of your own

Lately, I've been watching a lot of the typical sitcoms of my teenage years: That 70s Show, Seinfeld, Frasier, Everybody Loves Raymond and Friends (shoutout to Tidus and Family Matters) and I finally decided to hit the big sitcom show called Friends because of how much it used to make me laugh. While Seinfeld has a sort-of cynical and pessimistic feel to it (I love Curb your Enthusiasm), Friends is so light-hearted and great, until about Season 5-6 where Ross gets married again. Then things get pretty serious.

Right now, I'm at Season 8 out of 10 seasons at episode 17: The One with Tea Leaves, where Joey eventually confesses his love for Rachel. When I was a kid, I found Rachel and Jennifer Aniston, I was sure she had the largest breasts, best eyes, personality and somehow, her nipples always seem to make cameos through her shirt once a season. Rachel Green was hot (see centered image)

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Seriously, mega-babe when my pre-teen hormones could control my penis and my attention

But as I started watching this for the past weak, about 10 episodes a day (in the background or as I'm falling asleep). I realize how aggravating this show and their writers tirelessly draw everything towards Rachel. Every season has an update about Rachel's crazy life since Episode 1: The One where Monica gets a Roomate.

The counter-argument to this is that I'm being selective about the episodes and how their lives progress differently, but to be real honest, some of this you can't ignore. Every season is a sort of new chapter for the series as something huge occurs amongst the friends. Monica's Marriage, Ross' Wedding, Rachel's Kiss with Joey (I just skipped to the last part of the last episode of Season 9 and he literally kisses her before the credits).

My whole argument about the show is this: [u]While we believe the synopsis to be "The lives, loves, and laughs of six young friends living in Manhattan.", it's really about Rachel Green's start of an independent life and her six supportive friends that get caught up with their own mingling. A bit sarcastic, yes, but whatever the five other friends do, it all comes back to; "How does this affect Rachel Green?" I mean take a look at the evidence:
    Season 1:
  • Episode 1 - The One where Monica gets a Roomate: The show literally starts with everyone knowing each other somehow and the audience gets their first look at the group with Rachel running out of her marriage. The whole story starts with Rachel starting a new life while everyone else's life changes as we get further into the scene. To be fair, Ross is getting a divorce with his newly-admitted Lesbian partner (is anyone else reminded by Manhatten where Woody Allen also has a Lesbian ex-wife writing about their relationship?), but the episode ends back with Rachel, the coincidence that both of them are now "out" of their dedicated relationships and available to be "asked out sometime" (as Ross proposed the idea so casually).

  • Episode 24 - The One where Rachel Finds Out: The last episode of Season 1 is about Rachel finding out how Ross has feelings for her. It's unfortunate that this approach of her "finding out" takes 24 episodes (more or less given it's not always about that) for her to figure out what he laid out so obviously in the first episode. She finds out and misses him as Ross leaves for China, only to come back with a woman. Rachel's torn and Season 2 starts from there. Already a season in and its a constant back-and-forth of unrequited love between the two. While it feels a bit rushed to start doing this already, it's even more annoying that it happens two more times throughout the whole series.
    Season 2:
  • Episode 24 - The One with Barry and Mindy's Wedding: We ignored a lot of big surprises here. We ignored the faux-surprise of meeting Phoebe's stray father (he comes up later, he is the same actor who was that NBC executive that fell in love with Elaine). We ignored Ross having the child, the one where Ross finds out about Rachel's feelings and about Joey's acting career. They're all relatively minor because Ross has another child with Rachel that seems to make Ben appear a lot less and seem even less important and he also dates a ton of other women and gets married two more times (albeit short marriages). Joey is so irrelevant that they had to make a spin-off sitcom about him just to emphasize his irrelevancy. Phoebe as well is irrelevant because all her "progress" or "surprises" in the show are about her past. Her brother, her marriage with the gay guy (who somehow goes straight) and pregnancy are all tied to her past. Even meeting her mother/friend/Lily is tied to her past as well as her twin sister.

    In any case, with this last Season episode, Rachel finds out about her friend getting married and attends her wedding. At the same time, Monica also breaks up with badass Tom Selleck because he does not want kids and she does. They tie both in but ultimately, Rachel story prevails about how she gets over Barry and her best friend Mindy marrying him and sets the record straight that she was not crazy, just that she didn't love Barry (though the audience doesn't really care because he's beyond unimportant). Scene closes with Monica having her last dance with Tom and moves on with her life (Rachel as well). Both of them get past their strongest relationship (Rachel does again - so to speak).
    Season 3:
  • Episode 10 - The One where Rachel Quits: Season 3 is Rachel, Ross + Rachel, Rachel, Rachel + Ross. In that order. Halfway through the season, Rachel quits her coffee-serving job because the writers were tired of us guys admiring her in small cute skirt-aprons. This whole episode is about her freaking out over finding another job that she likes during the Christmas holidays.

    [image loading] End of an era boys

  • Episode 15 - The One where Ross and Rachel take a Break: Perhaps the most annoying of episodes because its based on misunderstandings. The one where the writers really tested our tolerance about this Ross/Rachel back 'n' forth. At Rachel's new job, she meets someone named Mark. Ross, insecure about how close she is getting to Mark, goes ballistics and finds way to ensure that she is his and that Mark knows (later on, they go out once before never doing it again). Due to this trust issue because Ross has watched too many episodes of Clueless, Rachel suggests they go on a break. During that break, Ross actually has more than one beer in his life and gets drunk, makes out with a girl who wears too much eye-shadow.

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    For the love of God man, you're a successful young guy with a university degree, you can do way better than a girl from the photocopy place

    Next episode, Rachel gets mad about "being on a break" because he didn't reserve himself for her until she can make up her goddamn mind. What's ironic is that the entire show is them being on a constant "break" with in-between hook-ups to make sure they can still adequately satisfy one another (to the point she gets pregnant in Season 7).

  • Episode 25 - The One at the Beach: You'd think the story about Monic dating Jon Favreau would be a lot more enticing to watch, but in reality; it's about Rachel still having feelings for Ross as he gets it on with Christine Taylor (total babe in Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story). But nope, it's about her trying to break them up for her own interests. I mean, this is where we find out about Phoebe and her real mother. But nah, let's wake 10 more episodes until Rachel and Ross get back on with one another. Ross debates about Rachel and Christine for 10 minutes with the guys, spends about 6 minutes breaking up with her and she leaves (don't even get to see that) and then the rest is about them trying to amend their relationship (by having Ross read about a letter Rachel wrote about how it's all his fault).
    Season 4:
  • Episode 1 - The One with the Jellyfish: They break up, again. He doesn't agree with the letter, she's a melodramatic whiner and he's a hopeless romantic stuck with a child and a lesbian ex-wife. A short-lived relationship, truly.

  • Episode 23-24 - The One with Ross' Wedding: Fast-forward past Phoebe pregnant, where the friends switched apartments in a bet and Rachel dates another guy and you're at Ross' wedding. 24 episodes and he proposes to Emily who has the hottest British accent around. This is the part where I really got annoyed because Ross is getting married to Emily in England and Rachel thinks it's a good idea to go over there, against Emily's wishes and the common sense that she admitted that it's a bad idea to do that.

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    He's my ex-boyfriend, but I'm somehow compelled to confess my feelings for him despite the fact that it's
    1. too late,
    2. ignore the cliche common saying that if you love someone, you need to let him/her free, if he/she doesn't come back: it wasn't meant to be and
    3. your confession is merely a projection of your inability to [still] take-charge of your life and make your own decisions that you are confident and comfortable doing due to your previous lifestyle where your choices were around the dependency and leash of your father's morals and interests in you (which he gained permission to control you with through his credit card and your hopping of dependency with your ex-fiance: Barry

    That being said, she goes anyways, Ross says the wrong name at the altar, Rachel interprets this as him still having feelings for her (somehow). The masses are swoon with their tug-and-pull relationship (where she pulls and he gets tugged around like a mule, oh brother).
    Season 5:
  • Episode 24 - The One in Vegas: Getting annoyed yet? We're 1/2 way there and after Season 5, it's all downhill with Rachel being the centerpiece more and more. Throughout this season is pretty light on Rachel and more on Ross trying to salve his wedding and have his cake too. Emily, voicing the concerns of all fans and people with common sense, states she'll come and be with Ross if he stops seeing Rachel. Ross, being the idiot that he is, tries to do it then mans up and admits he can't do that because he still needs someone to help him get through his masturbation periods (cheap shot?).

    The entire episode is about Monica and Chandler getting signs to get married, but unfortunately, they reconsider after Ross and Rachel get drunkenly married after constant brutish teasing with one another on the flight (for Joey's faux big career break). The rest is pretty irrelevant that serves no real purpose to be frank.
    Season 6:
  • Episode 2 - The One where Ross Hugs Rachel: No light at the end of the tunnel yet. This episode is about Rachel moving out because Chandler wants to live with Monica (yet... they have two rooms... why can't they both stay?). Ross doesn't annul the marriage because he is somehow convinced that he is still in love with Rachel (thanks Phoebe for your pseudo-psychoanalytical skills). He gets a divorce from her later.

    Later on, he also dates Rachel's younger sister who's Reese Witherspoon. Unfortunate that this doesn't last because Rachel meddles and Ross feels compelled to repel Reese away. I'm sure that much maturity will really win her heart Ross, good going!

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    Small cameo of Larry David's wife in Curb your Enthusiasm :D!

    Season 7:
  • Episode 1 - The One with Monica's Thunder

    [image loading]
    Pretty much the summary of Rachel's life. This was the tipping point for me and I just couldn't stand how she has to dramatize things on a good day about her friend. Another emotional, impulsive and unrestrained act of her where she needs to fill her confidence through sympathy and pity of her close friends. It was built up when she went to confess to Ross that she loved him at the end of Season 1 and through Season 2 when he came back with a Chinese girl (because he was tired of waiting of Rachel to get a clue). It happened when she went to interrupt the wedding of Emily and Ross (after having set them up due to her own pursuit for a guy...) and it'll happen here again and again during the wedding where she tells her female-friends she's pregnant and again in Season 9 somehow (I haven't gotten there yet as well as the last episode where all I remember is Ross and Rachel going to try at it again).

  • Episode 23-24 - The One with Monica and Chandler's Wedding Rachel's Pregnant. Dunno who the father is. Monica gets proposed to marry Chandler in Episode 1, Rachel reflects her relationships. Monica is about to get married, Rachel skips a step and gets pregnant.
    Season 8:
  • Episode 3 - The One where Rachel Tells Ross is the father, they did it once and they argue who came onto who because that's really what we all cared about. This whole season is Rachel & Pregnant, Rachel & Ross, Rachel & Joey, Rachel & Baby. I'm going to go through it real quick for you.
  • Episode 8 - The One with the Stripper Rachel breaks it to her father that she's having a baby with Ross and that she isn't marrying him. This forces Ross to be straight with Mona about his predicament and she accepts it (somehow).
  • Episode 9 - The One with the Rumor Brad Pitt visits and is mad at Rachel for ruining his high-school years. Started a club with Ross called the "I Hate Rachel Club".
  • Episode 12 - The One where Joey Dates Rachel Because it isn't annoying enough that Rachel lives with Ross, can't date any other guys and is having Ross' baby, but now they have to rope Joey in with him being in love with Rachel. Ross is eventually cool with it and Joey gives it a shot for like a season and a 1/2.
  • Episode 23-24 - The One where Rachel has a Baby She gives birth, gets mistakenly proposed by Joey (though Ross was going to propose to her) and she accepts.
And that's where I am so far. Season 9 is Joey kissing Rachel. Season 10 is Ross chasing Rachel as she goes to Paris and gives it one last shot.

But does anyone see how ridiculous it is. How it's about Rachel. For Monica and Chandler, One season to date, one season to marry. Some episodes about adopting children.
For Phoebe, scattered episodes about family, three children for her brother and she meets her guy at like Season 9. Joey gets nothing special except with Rachel.

Rachel gets the child, three wedding events (Barry, Barry & Mindy, Ross & Vegas, Joey & The Baby), breaks up/gets back with Ross like 4-5 times and litters every episode with her pining for relationships and feelings and her job. She's everywhere and you don't notice until you really start paying attention and keeping track (or maybe I'm too slow). The show should be called Friends of Rachel Green because of how much she pulls and drags people in and really makes it about her, similar to her beginning personality (and presumed high-school reputation).

I just spent a solid three hours on this. I'm somewhat ashamed and yet; really happy I got this out of my system. Now to watch the last two seasons and get on with my life.

Edit: OH wait, you wanna see somethin' freaky?

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Season 5 - Episode 23 - The One in Vegas

I know it's her spine but during that scene it just pops up and looks like a centipede is living inside here.

***
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KeyHunt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States218 Posts
March 04 2013 08:36 GMT
#2
She's his lobster.




P.S. This blog is ALMOST too nerdy for me Torte lol. But, that's OK..I know how it feels to get something stuck in your head . I re-watch the entire Roseanne series about once a year lol.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 08:45:59
March 04 2013 08:39 GMT
#3
Honestly, I don't watch much [new] television. I usually play it in the background while I do writing and work because people are talking and I am not stuck in silence. With music, I pay attention, with sitcoms, the predictability of the stock laughter of the audience and the rhythm of each joke/statement made by the characters make it easy to listen to and work.

However for Seinfeld, I've watched way too many fucking episodes too many times, I know practically everything about that show. I wouldn't call this "nerdy", but more neurotic about being unable to sleep unless I explicitly show and write some annoying consistencies in a decade-long popular sitcom show.

Can anyone change the title to be Green, not GreenE
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eSen1a
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1058 Posts
March 04 2013 09:20 GMT
#4
Hnnnnnngggggggggggggg

Seriously though I miss friends, sitcoms these days don't even come close
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37047 Posts
March 04 2013 09:31 GMT
#5
5/5

This was unbelievably amazing to read...

I freaking love FRIENDS. And how funny that I should come across this blog when I was just watching Season 8 yesterday
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Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
March 04 2013 11:50 GMT
#6
Cool blog, Torte! 5/5

And iirc, I think the writers initially intended for the show to be mainly about Ross and Rachel, with the other 4 as support roles, but it eventually panned out into being 6 support roles with (I guess ) an underlying emphasis on R&R? I think David Schwimmer and Jennifer Aniston had even declined higher salaries than the rest of the cast and kept it even, too.

I also think Jennifer Aniston being an A-lister, due to her relationship with Bradd Pitt, may have also cemented a focus on her character in the show.

But yeah, my favourite character was always Phoebe. Would have definitely been nice to see a little more attention thrown hers and the others' way.

/2cents
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
March 04 2013 12:10 GMT
#7
I actually really like Friends too.

Your blog attempted to hate on Rachel, but really just reminded me how much I like the show.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
March 04 2013 12:24 GMT
#8
Sadly, as I read through this blog I recollected every scene you're talking about.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45136 Posts
March 04 2013 13:54 GMT
#9
I absolutely love Friends too, and this was an awesome read

I agree with you that a lot of the writing particularly centered around Rachel (and Rachel + Ross), but that's probably partially due to the fact that they were considered the most successful friends (e.g., they started out with higher salaries than everyone else, but then all six agreed to get paid the same amount per episode- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends#Cast ).
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Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
March 04 2013 14:30 GMT
#10
I never liked Friends very much, but I'd just like to submit that Jennifer Aniston is still a babe, and was a babe all throughout that show. I'm using the term "babe" because it sounds more 90s. She was consistently more hot and less crazy than Monica, and yes the no-bra thing did wonders (pun).
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
March 04 2013 15:56 GMT
#11
As said before, I concur that she was pretty hot back then(shes only medium level now) but I'm glad people are finally catching up to me about how shitty the writing was for that show =D.
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
March 04 2013 16:04 GMT
#12
Ahhhhhhhh I grew up with Friends and loved it to bits. Rachel was smoking but I actually thought Monica was the most attractive, especially during the earlier seasons.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 16:43:52
March 04 2013 16:37 GMT
#13
Thanks for the comments guys.

On March 04 2013 20:50 Masamune wrote:
Cool blog, Torte! 5/5

And iirc, I think the writers initially intended for the show to be mainly about Ross and Rachel, with the other 4 as support roles, but it eventually panned out into being 6 support roles with (I guess ) an underlying emphasis on R&R? I think David Schwimmer and Jennifer Aniston had even declined higher salaries than the rest of the cast and kept it even, too.

I also think Jennifer Aniston being an A-lister, due to her relationship with Bradd Pitt, may have also cemented a focus on her character in the show.

But yeah, my favourite character was always Phoebe. Would have definitely been nice to see a little more attention thrown hers and the others' way.

/2cents


Not sure if I'm attracted to her more now or just getting bored of Jennifer.
I liked Phoebe, but I hate how they kept dressing her younger and younger as she got older. I also hated how she wore long dress-skirts that were of a jeans fabric.

On March 05 2013 01:04 Telcontar wrote:
Ahhhhhhhh I grew up with Friends and loved it to bits. Rachel was smoking but I actually thought Monica was the most attractive, especially during the earlier seasons.


I always found Monica good-looking, but her physique never attracted me.
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shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
March 04 2013 17:59 GMT
#14
Welp, just downloaded Season 1 and 2, will continue to download the whole series! thanks for the reminders.
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mothergoose729
Profile Joined December 2010
United States666 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 19:09:18
March 04 2013 19:07 GMT
#15
Great blog. I remember watching friends, and right around season 7 or 8 thinking "you know, it would be nice if these two just stopped trying".

I think the irony of this is, nobodies favorite character in friends is Rachel. Most people gravitate towards Phoebe or Joey. I really liked Chandler (the "Chan-Berries" joke never fails to make me laugh :D). The drama was obsessively dominated by Rachel but the character of the show and everything that really made it redeemable was everything that happened except the relationship between Ross and Rachel.

-When Chandlers and Ross got in a fight with those guys at the coffee shop
-When chandler got stuck in that store with the super model
-The guys and the girls fan trivia game that caused them to switch apartments
-When Chandler and Monica went on a double date with Phoebe and police guy and decided it was ok that they didn't have spontaneous sex in the park anymore
-The ducks
-joey's sandwich
-the time Joey got locked in their entertainment center and was left with nothing but a Canoe
-the time when Joey moved out and got all that ridiculous furniture
-when Phoebe dated that phsychologist guy everybody hated

On TV, the holiday episodes tend to get replayed the most. Something about a group of friends bustling about so they can have dinner together resonates, and the squabless the follow. Like when Joey decided he could eat an entire turkey by himself.

Those were the good times with friends.
PassionFruit
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
294 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 19:55:40
March 04 2013 19:46 GMT
#16
You're probably right, but Friends is just a sitcom. You only really watch it for the laughs. I mean the only things I remember about Friends (and I do like the show :D) are the punchlines and funny situations. I hardly ever think about the plot. It's used more as a vehicle to get from funny situation A -> funny situation B -> etc... than getting some overarching theme or purpose across.

Good and fun analysis but moot when it comes to the actual purpose of the show imo.

Edit: But then again I remember in middle school when all the girls would only talk about Rachel & Ross or Joey & Rachel or Chandler & Monica or .... some other relationship deal that created tension. Maybe I was overreaching when I assumed most people watched it solely for the comedy. Guess some people take sitcoms seriously?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 09 2013 01:18 GMT
#17
Yeah, you're right. But ugh, I still hate Rachel. I'm on Season 10 and its just brutal now.
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