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Waxangel
United States33429 Posts
On December 27 2012 09:37 Torte de Lini wrote: I used Microsoft Word to correct all spelling mistakes. There are no mistakes in either logic or spelling. wait your save for being stupid is to be even more stupid? | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6592 Posts
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Fyodor
Canada971 Posts
The way KeSPA works is that it operates Proleague in Korea at a loss as an advertizing machine for its member companies. The reason why it costs anything at all to us in the rest of the world is that the advertizing to us isn't a complete slam dunk to them. If a korean sees STX, Woongjin, etc then that can affect his consuming habits. If we foreigners see proleague we might see Samsung and buy a TV or a galaxy phone later, at best which is only one of their member companies. So that's subscription model vs advertizing model. Why is the cost $5? That could turn out to be an introductory price. It's not free so we get used to paying for the service and cheap enough to get a LOT of people interested, tuning in to proleague and not GOMTV. I think what KeSPA and spoTV want above all is an advertizing model so the subscription is free. If they can show the global audience tunes in, love the content a whole bunch and watch for hours on end... then a global sponsor will no doubt become interested, buy advertizing and lets that money subsidize the costs of the english broadcast. | ||
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Prince_Stranger
Kazakhstan762 Posts
Only 5$! It was free in back bw days! and this is good more people will watch it! | ||
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konadora
Singapore66202 Posts
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snively
United States1159 Posts
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Aldehyde
Sweden939 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32075 Posts
Also, paying the casters more isn't going to suddenly make them suck less. I don't how you even came to that conclusion. Ditto for the players as well. Leagues and tournaments don't exist in a vacuum. If you suck in one, you devalue yourself as a player. You either won't be invited or might not qualify for other tournaments. Teams pay more for a player with good results. A player with good results is also more marketable to advertisers. Players have every reason to try their hardest in every competition, and that goes the same for casters. Similarly as a caster, if you give a shitty performance in one tournament, companies aren't going to be busting down your door to cast their event. On December 27 2012 21:30 Fyodor wrote: I agree with VManOfMana The way KeSPA works is that it operates Proleague in Korea at a loss as an advertizing machine for its member companies. The reason why it costs anything at all to us in the rest of the world is that the advertizing to us isn't a complete slam dunk to them. If a korean sees STX, Woongjin, etc then that can affect his consuming habits. If we foreigners see proleague we might see Samsung and buy a TV or a galaxy phone later, at best which is only one of their member companies. So that's subscription model vs advertizing model. Why is the cost $5? That could turn out to be an introductory price. It's not free so we get used to paying for the service and cheap enough to get a LOT of people interested, tuning in to proleague and not GOMTV. I think what KeSPA and spoTV want above all is an advertizing model so the subscription is free. If they can show the global audience tunes in, love the content a whole bunch and watch for hours on end... then a global sponsor will no doubt become interested, buy advertizing and lets that money subsidize the costs of the english broadcast. this is a good post | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On December 27 2012 20:50 Waxangel wrote: wait your save for being stupid is to be even more stupid? I heavy rely on computers to compensate for any intelligence. On December 27 2012 18:08 BigFan wrote: Interesting writeup, $5 is definitely cheap for 8 months worth of stuff lol. I believe its called end digit bias where people are more likely to use multiples of 5s  TIL! On December 27 2012 18:08 NotoriousBig wrote: I might be wrong but isn´t the prize for proleague 5bucks per month ? No, you're thinking of MLG 2010 first prize. On December 27 2012 18:47 deathgod6 wrote: Microsoft Word says wong is a word, so it must be the word I am looking for. Also, if I wanted to learn Korean during a broadcast from some white guys, I would pay Rekrul in wong to teach me. Rekrul is very literate in South Korean, but some netizens have the North Korean dialect. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On December 27 2012 20:42 VManOfMana wrote: Because broadcast is traditionally "free" (cable TV), and financial support does not depend mainly on tournament prizes nor viewer subscriptions. KeSPA can sell Proleague for cheap because their core market is still Korea. The $5 subscription is a nice but not essential extra income, and the low price allows to reach more potential viewers (let's face it, kids on the internet are CHEAP). The KeSPA scene developed very different and has a very different economic model. By measuring the KeSPA scene using GSL metrics, you are essentially comparing apples to oranges. On December 28 2012 00:09 Aldehyde wrote: Well, this is either a very elaborate troll or Torte has gone mental. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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pigmanbear
Angola2010 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On December 28 2012 02:42 pigmanbear wrote: What's the exchange rate on Wongs anyway? Do two wongs still make a wight? Wright you mean | ||
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pigmanbear
Angola2010 Posts
Not quite. In both words I replace the "r" sound with a "w" sound; that's the joke. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On December 28 2012 03:53 pigmanbear wrote: Not quite. In both words I replace the "r" sound with a "w" sound; that's the joke. This is a serious topic about whether people are willing to put in more money to salvage a company's prestige. | ||
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Bunn
Estonia934 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On December 28 2012 04:14 Bunn wrote: No, we don't need to pay more. Nothing is too cheap. If anything, this will encourage competition, and force GOM(/Kespa) to drop(/raise) their prices. There is no competition. GOM is better. | ||
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Bunn
Estonia934 Posts
On December 28 2012 04:29 Torte de Lini wrote: There is no competition. GOM is better. GOM's production is better, but I personally couldn't afford to pay what they ask me. I see $5 for 7 months a better offer than $19.99 for a single season. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On December 27 2012 09:51 Torte de Lini wrote: I didn't buy it yet. I'm saving for the GSL, they're better because all the foreign teams pick up only GSL players. Technically, foreign teams can only pick up ESF and T8 players because KeSPA wants to trim the expenses of running the team. I have no problem with the lower cost. Nothing wrong with healthy competition and the low fee makes it far more bearable than spending money on PPVs for a four day event. Nothing wrong with trying to bring down cost and there are some casters out there who are making a ridiculous amount of money. I'm all for competition. It's multifaceted. | ||
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ihOpe
192 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Back to the drawing/writing board. | ||
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