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Not really sure where the most "efficient" price is (for anyone actually, let alone KESPA)
Realistically the only DRAW to proleague is that it should be the top level production rivalling GSL quality just because it's proleague, and it's players (who are going to play with shit backwards strategies for at least this whole season).
They can rake up the price as they get a better grasp of our scene and the foreign scene in general, and as they stabilize within starcraft 2 on all levels.
I think you're looking too much into it.
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i pay like $20 per month to watch the braziliand football (americans call it soccer) first division ...
I´m a cruzeiro fan, our mvp is an argentinian named Montillo, hes sallary is $300.000,00 per month.
Is any KESPA player making such money ? no!
$5 for 8 months is more than necessary to run a sc2 league, even the top one, people pays more to MLG, GSL or IPL just because they dont know how to measure money, what era are seeing is kespa players playing in better maps, better games and crushing "EG/TL team" like there´s no tomorrow, for only 5 bucks for 8 months.
Now you can ask me, what i prefer to see, top 4 of every MLG,GSL and IPL beeg zergs and shit, or watch an Proleague and see someone like Flash just run over zergs ?
Question here is simple, see zergs on GSL, IPL and MLG for 5 bucks a month, or watcj zerg, terrans and protoss on proleague for 5 bucks for 8 months? i know you know the answer.
Proleague is charging what is right, not raping the audiences pocket, dont blame them to respect you, please!
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On December 27 2012 11:30 Angel_ wrote:
1st season
Not really sure where the most "efficient" price is (for anyone actually, let alone KESPA)
Realistically the only DRAW to proleague is that it should be the top level production rivalling GSL quality just because it's proleague, and it's players (who are going to play with shit backwards strategies for at least this whole season).
They can rake up the price as they get a better grasp of our scene and the foreign scene in general, and as they stabilize within starcraft 2 on all levels.
I think you're looking too much into it.
They should start seeding GSL players into Proleague like GSL does for foreigners, then we'll see some hardened SC2 strategies.
On December 27 2012 11:58 NoFool wrote:
i pay like $20 per month to watch the braziliand football (americans call it soccer) first division ...
I´m a cruzeiro fan, our mvp is an argentinian named Montillo, hes sallary is $300.000,00 per month.
Is any KESPA player making such money ? no!
$5 for 8 months is more than necessary to run a sc2 league, even the top one, people pays more to MLG, GSL or IPL just because they dont know how to measure money, what era are seeing is kespa players playing in better maps, better games and crushing "EG/TL team" like there´s no tomorrow, for only 5 bucks for 8 months.
Now you can ask me, what i prefer to see, top 4 of every MLG,GSL and IPL beeg zergs and shit, or watch an Proleague and see someone like Flash just run over zergs ?
Question here is simple, see zergs on GSL, IPL and MLG for 5 bucks a month, or watcj zerg, terrans and protoss on proleague for 5 bucks for 8 months? i know you know the answer.
Proleague is charging what is right, not raping the audiences pocket, dont blame them to respect you, please!
I'd pay more for more KeSPA BW converted maps. Someone should let MLG/IPL know as well! Inconsistent map makes for more interesting games!
I agree, too many Zergs beating every other race is boring as hell. All the players are the same caliber and level.
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I think they're trying to use the $5 thing to get people used to buying it, and then they'll jack up the prices later once the fan-base is more firmly established.
that's why I'm getting in on the ground floor. any way you look at it, $5 for 8 months of PL is almost thievery. and actually, the games on PL have been some of the most fun and interesting one's I've watched in a while.
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On December 27 2012 12:57 sc2superfan101 wrote:
I think they're trying to use the $5 thing to get people used to buying it, and then they'll jack up the prices later once the fan-base is more firmly established.
that's why I'm getting in on the ground floor. any way you look at it, $5 for 8 months of PL is almost thievery. and actually, the games on PL have been some of the most fun and interesting one's I've watched in a while.
I prefer MLG's higher-priced 3-day event and then lowering the price through sponsored coupons, that was really hitting two birds with one stone!
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On December 27 2012 13:01 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 12:57 sc2superfan101 wrote:
I think they're trying to use the $5 thing to get people used to buying it, and then they'll jack up the prices later once the fan-base is more firmly established.
that's why I'm getting in on the ground floor. any way you look at it, $5 for 8 months of PL is almost thievery. and actually, the games on PL have been some of the most fun and interesting one's I've watched in a while. I prefer MLG's higher-priced 3-day event and then lowering the price through sponsored coupons, that was really hitting two birds with one stone!
But was it? For all the community knows it's MLG's partnership with KESPA and advice from MLG about how much backlash we can cause about money when we think it's unfair that caused the price to start as low as it is.
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On December 27 2012 13:04 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 13:01 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 27 2012 12:57 sc2superfan101 wrote:
I think they're trying to use the $5 thing to get people used to buying it, and then they'll jack up the prices later once the fan-base is more firmly established.
that's why I'm getting in on the ground floor. any way you look at it, $5 for 8 months of PL is almost thievery. and actually, the games on PL have been some of the most fun and interesting one's I've watched in a while. I prefer MLG's higher-priced 3-day event and then lowering the price through sponsored coupons, that was really hitting two birds with one stone! But was it? For all the community knows it's MLG's partnership with KESPA and advice from MLG about how much backlash we can cause about money when we think it's unfair that caused the price to start as low as it is.
I think KeSPA makes all its money from actual attendance just like NASL charging 60$ to see their finals event.
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i think the low subscription is a good move considering they`re trying to expose their league to more fans and the players are still working the game out. Prize comparisons are silly seeing as the proleaguers are on salaries. The wongs are annoying too
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On December 27 2012 13:08 Scarecrow wrote:
i think the low subscription is a good move considering they`re trying to expose their league to more fans and the players are still working the game out. Prize comparisons are silly seeing as the proleaguers are on salaries. The wongs are annoying too
I agree, wongs are annoying. Everyone should be paid in American dollars.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
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On December 27 2012 13:27 Rekrul wrote:
makin it rain man-wongs
Who are you Aretha Franklin?
This is a serious discussion.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
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there's nothing wong with his post guys
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On December 27 2012 13:37 Rekrul wrote:
i just love korean wong
you would
On December 27 2012 13:46 Ghin wrote:
there's nothing wong with his post guys
you should skim the title and post your thoughts
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On December 27 2012 13:07 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 13:04 Angel_ wrote:On December 27 2012 13:01 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 27 2012 12:57 sc2superfan101 wrote:
I think they're trying to use the $5 thing to get people used to buying it, and then they'll jack up the prices later once the fan-base is more firmly established.
that's why I'm getting in on the ground floor. any way you look at it, $5 for 8 months of PL is almost thievery. and actually, the games on PL have been some of the most fun and interesting one's I've watched in a while. I prefer MLG's higher-priced 3-day event and then lowering the price through sponsored coupons, that was really hitting two birds with one stone! But was it? For all the community knows it's MLG's partnership with KESPA and advice from MLG about how much backlash we can cause about money when we think it's unfair that caused the price to start as low as it is. I think KeSPA makes all its money from actual attendance just like NASL charging 60$ to see their finals event.
Are you talking about them making money from the live audience? You're aware that it has always been free to attend PL, right?
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On December 27 2012 13:58 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 13:07 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 27 2012 13:04 Angel_ wrote:On December 27 2012 13:01 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 27 2012 12:57 sc2superfan101 wrote:
I think they're trying to use the $5 thing to get people used to buying it, and then they'll jack up the prices later once the fan-base is more firmly established.
that's why I'm getting in on the ground floor. any way you look at it, $5 for 8 months of PL is almost thievery. and actually, the games on PL have been some of the most fun and interesting one's I've watched in a while. I prefer MLG's higher-priced 3-day event and then lowering the price through sponsored coupons, that was really hitting two birds with one stone! But was it? For all the community knows it's MLG's partnership with KESPA and advice from MLG about how much backlash we can cause about money when we think it's unfair that caused the price to start as low as it is. I think KeSPA makes all its money from actual attendance just like NASL charging 60$ to see their finals event. Are you talking about them making money from the live audience? You're aware that it has always been free to attend PL, right?
Yes, but Koreans are mostly of the christian faith, so I'm sure they give away their lunch money since they're sneaking out to go watch Proleague during school.
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On December 27 2012 14:03 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 13:58 Pokebunny wrote:On December 27 2012 13:07 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 27 2012 13:04 Angel_ wrote:On December 27 2012 13:01 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 27 2012 12:57 sc2superfan101 wrote:
I think they're trying to use the $5 thing to get people used to buying it, and then they'll jack up the prices later once the fan-base is more firmly established.
that's why I'm getting in on the ground floor. any way you look at it, $5 for 8 months of PL is almost thievery. and actually, the games on PL have been some of the most fun and interesting one's I've watched in a while. I prefer MLG's higher-priced 3-day event and then lowering the price through sponsored coupons, that was really hitting two birds with one stone! But was it? For all the community knows it's MLG's partnership with KESPA and advice from MLG about how much backlash we can cause about money when we think it's unfair that caused the price to start as low as it is. I think KeSPA makes all its money from actual attendance just like NASL charging 60$ to see their finals event. Are you talking about them making money from the live audience? You're aware that it has always been free to attend PL, right? Yes, but Koreans are mostly of the christian faith, so I'm sure they give away their lunch money since they're sneaking out to go watch Proleague during school.
What the fuck are you even talking about anymore
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On December 27 2012 14:03 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 13:58 Pokebunny wrote:On December 27 2012 13:07 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 27 2012 13:04 Angel_ wrote:On December 27 2012 13:01 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 27 2012 12:57 sc2superfan101 wrote:
I think they're trying to use the $5 thing to get people used to buying it, and then they'll jack up the prices later once the fan-base is more firmly established.
that's why I'm getting in on the ground floor. any way you look at it, $5 for 8 months of PL is almost thievery. and actually, the games on PL have been some of the most fun and interesting one's I've watched in a while. I prefer MLG's higher-priced 3-day event and then lowering the price through sponsored coupons, that was really hitting two birds with one stone! But was it? For all the community knows it's MLG's partnership with KESPA and advice from MLG about how much backlash we can cause about money when we think it's unfair that caused the price to start as low as it is. I think KeSPA makes all its money from actual attendance just like NASL charging 60$ to see their finals event. Are you talking about them making money from the live audience? You're aware that it has always been free to attend PL, right? Yes, but Koreans are mostly of the christian faith, so I'm sure they give away their lunch money since they're sneaking out to go watch Proleague during school.
At this point I can't tell if your blog is supposed to be satirical or serious.
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On December 27 2012 14:14 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 14:03 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 27 2012 13:58 Pokebunny wrote:On December 27 2012 13:07 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 27 2012 13:04 Angel_ wrote:On December 27 2012 13:01 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 27 2012 12:57 sc2superfan101 wrote:
I think they're trying to use the $5 thing to get people used to buying it, and then they'll jack up the prices later once the fan-base is more firmly established.
that's why I'm getting in on the ground floor. any way you look at it, $5 for 8 months of PL is almost thievery. and actually, the games on PL have been some of the most fun and interesting one's I've watched in a while. I prefer MLG's higher-priced 3-day event and then lowering the price through sponsored coupons, that was really hitting two birds with one stone! But was it? For all the community knows it's MLG's partnership with KESPA and advice from MLG about how much backlash we can cause about money when we think it's unfair that caused the price to start as low as it is. I think KeSPA makes all its money from actual attendance just like NASL charging 60$ to see their finals event. Are you talking about them making money from the live audience? You're aware that it has always been free to attend PL, right? Yes, but Koreans are mostly of the christian faith, so I'm sure they give away their lunch money since they're sneaking out to go watch Proleague during school. At this point I can't tell if your blog is supposed to be satirical or serious.
Why would it be satirical? I took a lot of time researching all the statistics, prize money/math and price-comparison og broadcasting through Liquipedia. It requires a lot of precise keywords to find the right information.
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On December 27 2012 14:16 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2012 14:14 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:On December 27 2012 14:03 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 27 2012 13:58 Pokebunny wrote:On December 27 2012 13:07 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 27 2012 13:04 Angel_ wrote:On December 27 2012 13:01 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 27 2012 12:57 sc2superfan101 wrote:
I think they're trying to use the $5 thing to get people used to buying it, and then they'll jack up the prices later once the fan-base is more firmly established.
that's why I'm getting in on the ground floor. any way you look at it, $5 for 8 months of PL is almost thievery. and actually, the games on PL have been some of the most fun and interesting one's I've watched in a while. I prefer MLG's higher-priced 3-day event and then lowering the price through sponsored coupons, that was really hitting two birds with one stone! But was it? For all the community knows it's MLG's partnership with KESPA and advice from MLG about how much backlash we can cause about money when we think it's unfair that caused the price to start as low as it is. I think KeSPA makes all its money from actual attendance just like NASL charging 60$ to see their finals event. Are you talking about them making money from the live audience? You're aware that it has always been free to attend PL, right? Yes, but Koreans are mostly of the christian faith, so I'm sure they give away their lunch money since they're sneaking out to go watch Proleague during school. At this point I can't tell if your blog is supposed to be satirical or serious. Why would it be satirical? I took a lot of time researching all the statistics, prize money/math and price-comparison og broadcasting through Liquipedia. It requires a lot of precise keywords to find the right information.
But then you're suggesting that school kids play truant from school and donate their lunch money to KeSPA because of religious reasons because ProLeague is free to attend as a response to the valid point Pokebunny raised.
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