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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
December 20 2012 21:39 GMT
#41
On December 20 2012 23:08 diehilde wrote:
Ugh, I dont wanna be the naysayer here, but its highly unlikely you just "figure it out" yourself after a year long chronic depression. This sounds a lot like a manic phase to me. As long as you havent identified and dealt with the roots of your depression it most likely will come back, stronger than ever. From what you wrote its clear you have a severely disordered self esteem, possibly coupled with social phobia. I strongly suggest seeking professional help, which means a stationary psychoanalytic / cognitive-behavioral therapy in a clinic for a cpl weeks/months followed by ambulant therapy. Depressions dont just cure themselves, self esteems dont just become healthy because one realizes "Hey I just got to love myself!". Much more likely for your depression to have evolved into a manic depression. Its sad to see all the psychological amateurs go "Hey, your cured, good for you!" - your really not helping.

This sounds more like a random angry post. I didnt say anything about my depression and you are pretty much assuming a lot of stuff without any kind of information. I havent been depressed for some years already and what I am figuring out are ways to erase the negative consequences it had on me rather than a shortcut to get out. I also have an hard time taking anything you say seriously considering everytime you talk about me you seem really angry.
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diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 14:39:18
December 26 2012 14:38 GMT
#42
On December 21 2012 00:05 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 23:08 diehilde wrote:
Ugh, I dont wanna be the naysayer here, but its highly unlikely you just "figure it out" yourself after a year long chronic depression. This sounds a lot like a manic phase to me. As long as you havent identified and dealt with the roots of your depression it most likely will come back, stronger than ever. From what you wrote its clear you have a severely disordered self esteem, possibly coupled with social phobia. I strongly suggest seeking professional help, which means a stationary psychoanalytic / cognitive-behavioral therapy in a clinic for a cpl weeks/months followed by ambulant therapy. Depressions dont just cure themselves, self esteems dont just become healthy because one realizes "Hey I just got to love myself!". Much more likely for your depression to have evolved into a manic depression. Its sad to see all the psychological amateurs go "Hey, your cured, good for you!" - your really not helping.



im sure you were trying to help but man you just sound like a douche
"Depressions dont just cure themselves"
Of course theres depressions that remit without treatment, probably a bigger number than there's statistics of for the obvious reason that he data is harder to grasp for people that dont go under treatment.
if you are working in a medical field i'd suggest to let go of this kind of black and white thinking. Psychosocial factors for example can play a role in the origin of depression, if they improve its perfectly reasonable to get healthy again.

Social phobia?? ya because its super typical for someone with social phobia to come together with a group of people and show yourself in front of a camera with thousands of people watching, super typical

If only medicine was so easy you could do all diagnosis from a small amount of text
From the bit he's written you couldnt even tell if he has had chronic depression or several episodes etc
(actually this part " the cause of my depression was very situational and temporary" makes chronic depression unlikely)
from the bit he's written you couldnt count out a manic phase but you certainly couldnt diagnose it either
I'm no professional yet but from the experience i've had with manic patients they usually use their increased drive to have fun and do unhealthy things, with him it's the opposite, working out and eating healthy rather than getting drunk, eating a lot and spending tons of money
Look up ICD10 critera for a manic phase and then tell me that they are all fulfilled from the text he's written and you might see why your little rant is a bit ridiculous. I find this simple way of thinking actually very similar to people who go "If youre depressed you just gotta stop being a pussy and realize that things arent so bad"

I find it Ironic that you can use these two sentences in the same text ^^ Also I wasnt doing a diagnosis, I was just giving a different perspective. Obviously I misunderstood the text or it was misunderstandable or whatever because what I got from it was definitely not that his last depression was years ago and he was happy and content ever since. I was getting the impression from the text that it was about a very recent realization that changed his happiness in life, indicating unhappiness or even depression before.

Thanks for telling me the obvious that you cant do a medical diagnosis on a blog post. Obviously you can do a personality diagnosis just fine though, because you have labeled me as someone thinking in "Black and White" and "simple ways" just from my post. Yeah I know depressions can cure themselves, as can all kinds of diseases. Does that mean its clever to go around and tell potentially ill people it can cure itself or rather advise treatment? Stop telling other people what they can and can not do with a text while going ahead and drawing all kinds of conclusions from texts yourself. Thats what we do with text, we interpret things and my conclusions differed from yours. Labeling people because of different interpretations of text is the only thing that indicates thinking in "Black and White" and "simple ways" in my book.
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Kyrillion
Profile Joined August 2011
Russian Federation748 Posts
December 26 2012 19:12 GMT
#43
Technically, if he never had a threesome, he can still talk about the best threesome in his life. And there's nothing to say about it. Nasty empty set.
If you seek well, you shall find.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 23:05:55
December 26 2012 23:04 GMT
#44
On December 26 2012 23:38 diehilde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 00:05 7mk wrote:
On December 20 2012 23:08 diehilde wrote:
Ugh, I dont wanna be the naysayer here, but its highly unlikely you just "figure it out" yourself after a year long chronic depression. This sounds a lot like a manic phase to me. As long as you havent identified and dealt with the roots of your depression it most likely will come back, stronger than ever. From what you wrote its clear you have a severely disordered self esteem, possibly coupled with social phobia. I strongly suggest seeking professional help, which means a stationary psychoanalytic / cognitive-behavioral therapy in a clinic for a cpl weeks/months followed by ambulant therapy. Depressions dont just cure themselves, self esteems dont just become healthy because one realizes "Hey I just got to love myself!". Much more likely for your depression to have evolved into a manic depression. Its sad to see all the psychological amateurs go "Hey, your cured, good for you!" - your really not helping.



im sure you were trying to help but man you just sound like a douche
"Depressions dont just cure themselves"
Of course theres depressions that remit without treatment, probably a bigger number than there's statistics of for the obvious reason that he data is harder to grasp for people that dont go under treatment.
if you are working in a medical field i'd suggest to let go of this kind of black and white thinking. Psychosocial factors for example can play a role in the origin of depression, if they improve its perfectly reasonable to get healthy again.

Social phobia?? ya because its super typical for someone with social phobia to come together with a group of people and show yourself in front of a camera with thousands of people watching, super typical

If only medicine was so easy you could do all diagnosis from a small amount of text
From the bit he's written you couldnt even tell if he has had chronic depression or several episodes etc
(actually this part " the cause of my depression was very situational and temporary" makes chronic depression unlikely)
from the bit he's written you couldnt count out a manic phase but you certainly couldnt diagnose it either
I'm no professional yet but from the experience i've had with manic patients they usually use their increased drive to have fun and do unhealthy things, with him it's the opposite, working out and eating healthy rather than getting drunk, eating a lot and spending tons of money
Look up ICD10 critera for a manic phase and then tell me that they are all fulfilled from the text he's written and you might see why your little rant is a bit ridiculous. I find this simple way of thinking actually very similar to people who go "If youre depressed you just gotta stop being a pussy and realize that things arent so bad"

I find it Ironic that you can use these two sentences in the same text ^^ Also I wasnt doing a diagnosis, I was just giving a different perspective. Obviously I misunderstood the text or it was misunderstandable or whatever because what I got from it was definitely not that his last depression was years ago and he was happy and content ever since. I was getting the impression from the text that it was about a very recent realization that changed his happiness in life, indicating unhappiness or even depression before.

Thanks for telling me the obvious that you cant do a medical diagnosis on a blog post. Obviously you can do a personality diagnosis just fine though, because you have labeled me as someone thinking in "Black and White" and "simple ways" just from my post. Yeah I know depressions can cure themselves, as can all kinds of diseases. Does that mean its clever to go around and tell potentially ill people it can cure itself or rather advise treatment? Stop telling other people what they can and can not do with a text while going ahead and drawing all kinds of conclusions from texts yourself. Thats what we do with text, we interpret things and my conclusions differed from yours. Labeling people because of different interpretations of text is the only thing that indicates thinking in "Black and White" and "simple ways" in my book.


There's literally nothing ironic about that.
In both sentences I'm trying to convey the point that it's ridiculous to try to draw such massive conclusions from this text. Looking at ICD-10 criteria might help realize how much more there is to making a diagnosis. It's not just "oh youre happy now and working out, after having been depressed prior to this. Bipolar disorder is way more likely than you being healthy"

So you know that depressions can cure themselves... then try not to post sentences like
"Depressions dont just cure themselves"
You're not just giving a different perspective, you're saying that theres a much more likely diagnosis (of him having manic depression) than being healthy, youre telling him to stop what he's doing (which he claims really helps him) and go into stationary therapy, while at the same time judging every single person in this thread that is being positive.
Take maybe only the very first two sentences of your original post, and I can take that as giving a different point of view, everything else in it is just being pretentious and arrogant.
Besides, how is telling him he probably has a very specific disease not doing diagnosis?
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from wiki: "Medical diagnosis [...] refers [...] to the process of attempting to determine or identify a possible disease or disorder [...]"


Youve shown some rather black and white thinking with the very words youve written, stating things like
"its clear you have a severely disordered self esteem", "Depressions dont just cure themselves", saying that the others are not helping - this "either, or" mentality is what I mean when I use these words.
And I say "this black and white thinking" and "this simple way of thinking"
I am however not doing "personality diagnosis". I'm not saying you are always thinking like that, im not saying you are always simple minded and stupid, I am not saying you have a personality disorder, or a different psychiatric disease cause that would be arrogant as hell, I am merely referring to what you were saying here without doing crazy assumptions.

Of course we draw conclusions from texts, and we always only have limited knowledge about the subject you read about, the question is if your conclusions are logically deriven from the text or if youre just going nuts with a fantasy-filled tirade of predetermined opinions.

Lastly I would like to ask what makes you a professional on psychology (I dont know if you are but calling out others as "psychological amateurs" makes it sound like you are a professional)
I'm just curious.
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Atrimex
Profile Joined July 2011
193 Posts
December 27 2012 11:59 GMT
#45
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