As some of you may or may not know I've done a fair amount of casual meteorology study on the side off and on for the past 5 years or so. Someday later in life I might try to do something more with it but until then I'm relegated to posting status updates on facebook and occasional blogs elsewhere. Most of this I've posted somewhere but I'm compiling it all in a centralized place for TL. I may continue updates but I doubt I'll be on a pc much in the next couple days.
As hurricane Sandy begins it's jog to the left in the next hour or so and conditions in the northeast continue to deteriorate- I wanted to share some things which I've found to just be so extraordinary some of it is mind boggling. Some of the numbers and figures are just impressive, out of this world, day after tomorrow, more perfect than perfect storm stuff that defies anything we've seen in modern times. Even though the storm is classified as just a category 1 hurricane with sustained wind speeds in the 80MPH range it has a nearly unprecedented band of tropical storm force wind circulation extending a staggering 500 miles from the center of the storm now. 26 states of the continental U.S will be atmospherically effected by this weather disturbance. Almost everything east of the Mississippi will feel an effect.
Tropical storm wind radius as of 11pm est 10/28/12
Many people are dismissing this as "Only a category 1 storm, the weakest level of a hurricane." But what they fail to understand is the movement of the storm as it makes landfall. A cold front moving southeast out of Canda is basically fueling the hurricane, adding to the size and scope of the wind radius area. It's also dropping air pressure much much lower than we ever see for a typical category 1 storm. A normal category 1 storm has air pressure readings in the high 900 millibars. Sandy is expected to be sub 950mb when it makes landfall. (A pressure we might see with a strong category 3 or 4 storm) This could lead to pressure readings in major northeast cities that have never been recorded before. Nowhere in the Northeast has seen a drop under 960mb ever. The intensity of the overall disturbance in the air alone is possibly one of the most impressive elements of the entire system.
Projected path as of 2AM est 10/29/12
As you can see the movement of the storm and its relative speed are going to compound the wind event for most of the major cities in the northeast. DC/Baltimore/Philly/NYC will see a chance for hurricane force gusts for a solid 24-36 hour period. Philly and NYC possibly will see worse winds but that depends on where the storm really makes its actual landfall tomorrow. The storm is going to slow down in its actual movement speed which is awful in terms of possible damage. Crawling along at a solid 4MPH speed for some time before it begins moving North again means many major metropolitan areas will experience high winds and torrential rainfall for a much longer period of time than a usual hurricane or storm system that is moving from a point A to point B type track. This storm track basically has the hurricane making a sharp turn north a little bit above Baltimore before moving through PA and New York state.
Storm surge expected levels as of 11pm est 10/28/12
Storm surge expected with this event could be unprecedented. A max of 11feet is possible at long island/NYC area. Combine this with the motion of the storm, it's making a turn into the coast that we NEVER see in a mid Atlantic tropical cycle rotation. Because the storm is commanding such a wide and vast surface area of water as it turns it's going to literally push water into long island. The timing of the storm is as perfect as it gets as well. Coming in right with high tide on Monday on a full moon, where tides are already higher than average, we could see massive storm surge. NYC subways could be flooded and be out for weeks. Lower Manhattan especially will be under the gun in terms of flooding concerns as it's one of the lowest (if not the lowest?) point in NYC in terms of sea level. The possible flood damage incoming for NYC area is staggering if the scenario plays out in the worst cast. Of course much of this is very hard to predict and also basically impossible since we literally have never seen something like this before. We're only going off what computer models are projecting which doesn't even seem like its real half the time with this storm.
Early predictions estimate the storm to do about $2.5-$3 billion dollars of damage. This does not factor in flood damage whatsoever which could be immense if the worst case plays out along some coastal areas.
This has the potential to be the costliest hurricane in the U.S since Katrina and quite frankly looks like a possible natural disaster of rather epic proportions if everything actually pans out. The northeast is basically shut down tomorrow already with federal government off in DC, schools closed everywhere and mass transit suspended in NYC and elsewhere.
That movie was pretty cool, not going to lie. I'd really love to see tweet by tweet from Rob, like, "5:39 AM... Winds N NE at a sustained 10-15 MPH." and what not.
Also seeing the 5AM data right now is fucking scaring me. Even though all the models said this would happen to actually see it make its north western turn straight for land literally made me sick to see, and wind gusts easily over 100mph now and expected to continue to grow as an independent system basically feeds into it. Never do you see something like this, an independent system ALWAYS is detrimental to a hurricane due to the conflicting wind patterns, it always helps break it up or at least weaken the rotation. Not this time, this time it's literally encouraging the rotation due to the angle and movement of the hurricane as it hits a dominating high pressure bubble in the mid Atlantic.
there's bunches of stuff to look at if you know where to look, I think the easiest stuff are just graphs videos and streams of radar images from weather.com.
www.wunderground.com is also a nice resource for maps and graphs, every 6 hours we get updated readings and advisory updates on track and storm power..
I have a lot of friends in the east coast NE area (living there myself too), so I can only hope this one is like Irene was for NYC, all flash and little substance. GL ppl!
Woot yay for the perfect storm. Us in NJ always said we NEVER have to worry about a hurricane because he needs to have a perfect direction to avoid the Carolinas and turn perfectly into our shores. I guess it was bound to happen someday O well at least I'm at the highest part of the city of live in so hoping all goes well
It's going to be bad because of the GIANT storm surge and the millions of people that live in the way of it ... all the way from Boston down to DC is one giant city. This storm is literally 1000 miles of wind pushing the water in front if it onto land. Plus it's the full moon.
Schools are closed all over in MA, we're getting some pretty strong wind gusts and I think they expect to lose power everywhere - trees still have their leaves, so they're more likely to lose limbs with this wind, thus knocking over power lines and creating general disasters.
My in-laws are in town, they were planning on leaving today but all flights are cancelled today and tomorrow because of the wind.
Hope that all TL folks stay safe! Here's to us all being able to get to MLG. :-)
On October 29 2012 21:29 Zaranth wrote: It's going to be bad because of the GIANT storm surge and the millions of people that live in the way of it ... all the way from Boston down to DC is one giant city. This storm is literally 1000 miles of wind pushing the water in front if it onto land. Plus it's the full moon.
Schools are closed all over in MA, we're getting some pretty strong wind gusts and I think they expect to lose power everywhere - trees still have their leaves, so they're more likely to lose limbs with this wind, thus knocking over power lines and creating general disasters.
My in-laws are in town, they were planning on leaving today but all flights are cancelled today and tomorrow because of the wind.
Hope that all TL folks stay safe! Here's to us all being able to get to MLG. :-)
Maybe it's because I'm a Louisiana resident, but I don't find that to be a very big storm surge.
Best of luck to my East Coast fellow Americans, hurricanes suck especially since you guys probably don't have hurricane plans. If its really bad prepare for long power outages and generator shortages. Might be good to pick one up now.
Waaaahhhhh I'm scared of a bit of water! It's wet outside, and now I have to carry around my umbrella WHAAAA
But seriously, this storm is looking like something else. I'm actually really glad my family doesn't live in MA any more. I'll be praying for you guys, the next few days are going to suck.
pre-edit: And now I've actually read your blog. Nice article! I hadn't really taken the time to read too much about the storm, sounds like this is really going to be one for the record books.
I have a teacher who just moved to Washington this year. I hope she's safe. God bless her soul, she hasn't had any encounters with any sort of natural disasters her entire life.
I told her to stock up on non-perishable foods and candles, and to store them in her bathtub because I think there will be any water supply. Are there any last minute tips you guys have for her? I can facebook them to her.
On October 29 2012 21:56 Azera wrote: I have a teacher who just moved to Washington this year. I hope she's safe. God bless her soul, she hasn't had any encounters with any sort of natural disasters her entire life.
I told her to stock up on non-perishable foods and candles, and to store them in her bathtub because I think there will be any water supply. Are there any last minute tips you guys have for her? I can facebook them to her.
You're referring to D.C. and not Washington state, right?
I think most of the stuff is common sense. Charge all your electronics, bring in the dog, etc.
On October 29 2012 21:56 Azera wrote: I have a teacher who just moved to Washington this year. I hope she's safe. God bless her soul, she hasn't had any encounters with any sort of natural disasters her entire life.
I told her to stock up on non-perishable foods and candles, and to store them in her bathtub because I think there will be any water supply. Are there any last minute tips you guys have for her? I can facebook them to her.
You're referring to D.C. and not Washington state, right?
I think most of the stuff is common sense. Charge all your electronics, bring in the dog, etc.
high tide records were almost broke in Atlantic City NJ at 8:15AM. TWELVE HOURS before the storm rides in pretty much exactly with high tide tonight. There is a strong possibility of insane coastal flooding all along the NJ, DE, MD coasts and low areas of NYC tonight, worst of storm will be from 8pm tonight through noon tomorrow for majority of the projected path area.
So, i live on long island. If my calculations are correct i should be able to fly today (i weigh 150 lbs). Yes i will document it and send it to you all.
On October 29 2012 22:29 DreamChaser wrote: So, i live on long island. If my calculations are correct i should be able to fly today (i weigh 150 lbs). Yes i will document it and send it to you all.
lol, I live in low lying area of NYC (Battery Park, right next to the Hudson river) in a mandatory evacuation zone. Was too lazy to leave though, and I wanted to enjoy my day off from work by staying in my apartment. Hoping it's not going to be too bad!
Rain didn't start til late last night, and the rain itself isn't that bad yet. But my window looks out over the Hudson, and it definitely looks like the winds are pretty strong.
On October 29 2012 23:06 DueleR wrote: lol, I live in low lying area of NYC (Battery Park, right next to the Hudson river) in a mandatory evacuation zone.Was too lazy to leave though, and I wanted to enjoy my day off from work by staying in my apartment. Hoping it's not going to be too bad!
Rain didn't start til late last night, and the rain itself isn't that bad yet. But my window looks out over the Hudson, and it definitely looks like the winds are pretty strong.
Question... and this may be a dumb one, so I apologize... but doesn't a "mandatory" evacuation zone imply that you're forced to go somewhere else? Can you get in trouble with the law if you don't?
On October 29 2012 21:56 Azera wrote: I have a teacher who just moved to Washington this year. I hope she's safe. God bless her soul, she hasn't had any encounters with any sort of natural disasters her entire life.
I told her to stock up on non-perishable foods and candles, and to store them in her bathtub because I think there will be any water supply. Are there any last minute tips you guys have for her? I can facebook them to her.
AZERA YOU ARE BACK! I thought you asked for a perm, and i was sad to see another blogger go. On topic, i think the storm is over hyped. I know it looks terrible and tbh it really is, BUT at the same time if everyone over prepares I think we the storm will pass with minimal damage.
On October 29 2012 23:06 DueleR wrote: lol, I live in low lying area of NYC (Battery Park, right next to the Hudson river) in a mandatory evacuation zone.Was too lazy to leave though, and I wanted to enjoy my day off from work by staying in my apartment. Hoping it's not going to be too bad!
Rain didn't start til late last night, and the rain itself isn't that bad yet. But my window looks out over the Hudson, and it definitely looks like the winds are pretty strong.
Question... and this may be a dumb one, so I apologize... but doesn't a "mandatory" evacuation zone imply that you're forced to go somewhere else? Can you get in trouble with the law if you don't?
You're supposed to, but there's no way they have the time or resources to round up all ~375,000 who live in the evacuation zones. I would say about 1/3 of my building stayed behind. You really just can't be seen out in the street - there are NYPD trucks riding around with megaphones telling people to get out of the area, but you don't get in legal trouble for staying.
On October 29 2012 23:06 DueleR wrote: lol, I live in low lying area of NYC (Battery Park, right next to the Hudson river) in a mandatory evacuation zone.Was too lazy to leave though, and I wanted to enjoy my day off from work by staying in my apartment. Hoping it's not going to be too bad!
Rain didn't start til late last night, and the rain itself isn't that bad yet. But my window looks out over the Hudson, and it definitely looks like the winds are pretty strong.
Question... and this may be a dumb one, so I apologize... but doesn't a "mandatory" evacuation zone imply that you're forced to go somewhere else? Can you get in trouble with the law if you don't?
You're supposed to, but there's no way they have the time or resources to round up all ~375,000 who live in the evacuation zones. I would say about 1/3 of my building stayed behind. You really just can't be seen out in the street - there are NYPD trucks riding around with megaphones telling people to get out of the area, but you don't get in legal trouble for staying.
Yeah...... I live 10 minutes outside of Atlantic City. All the shores have evacuated. Atlantic City and most of the shore towns are already under water and the hurricane hasn't even hit yet.
On October 29 2012 23:50 Metal[x] wrote: this shit looks weak so far. I'm in Philly. I want it to be so bad by 4pm that I can have the excuse of not going into work. -_-
Don't worry by 4pm you'll have solid tropical storm winds and by 10pm tonight you'll have 90mph+ gusts. glhf.
People who ignored to evacuate in coastal areas of DE/NJ are going to be regretting it big time when 25 foot waves are going to literally be taller than coastal buildings and bridges go down. Like literally there could be mass deaths depending on who didn't leave high risk areas.
12pm and I still have power here just outside of DC, and more importantly, internet! Christ I hope my legendary power grid holds up or bad things are gonna start happening here.
On October 29 2012 23:06 DueleR wrote: lol, I live in low lying area of NYC (Battery Park, right next to the Hudson river) in a mandatory evacuation zone. Was too lazy to leave though, and I wanted to enjoy my day off from work by staying in my apartment. Hoping it's not going to be too bad!
Rain didn't start til late last night, and the rain itself isn't that bad yet. But my window looks out over the Hudson, and it definitely looks like the winds are pretty strong.
On October 29 2012 23:50 Metal[x] wrote: this shit looks weak so far. I'm in Philly. I want it to be so bad by 4pm that I can have the excuse of not going into work. -_-
Don't worry by 4pm you'll have solid tropical storm winds and by 10pm tonight you'll have 90mph+ gusts. glhf.
People who ignored to evacuate in coastal areas of DE/NJ are going to be regretting it big time when 25 foot waves are going to literally be taller than coastal buildings and bridges go down. Like literally there could be mass deaths depending on who didn't leave high risk areas.
Where the fuck do you work that they would make you work then LOL. It's literally life threatening conditions to be driving/walking/doing anything outside during those times.
On October 29 2012 23:06 DueleR wrote: lol, I live in low lying area of NYC (Battery Park, right next to the Hudson river) in a mandatory evacuation zone. Was too lazy to leave though, and I wanted to enjoy my day off from work by staying in my apartment. Hoping it's not going to be too bad!
Rain didn't start til late last night, and the rain itself isn't that bad yet. But my window looks out over the Hudson, and it definitely looks like the winds are pretty strong.
Guys, I envy you so much. We get almost no extreme weather here It's so cool to watch all this nature power in its best. Sure, it is also dangerous, but you can do a lot to help keeping yourselves safe, as you get the warning ahead.
Last time we had a reasonable natural disaster was 2002 floods.
On October 30 2012 02:39 opisska wrote: Guys, I envy you so much. We get almost no extreme weather here It's so cool to watch all this nature power in its best. Sure, it is also dangerous, but you can do a lot to help keeping yourselves safe, as you get the warning ahead.
Last time we had a reasonable natural disaster was 2002 floods.
I remember being in Florida once and seeing a "Hurricane" (turned out it was just a smaller thing that dissolved rather quickly) live, that shit is still scary as hell.
Some days it just feels like the best choice I ever made to leave the east coast of the states and move to Canada. Best of luck to all my east coast TL brethren and family though.
On October 30 2012 01:03 KrazyTrumpet wrote: 12pm and I still have power here just outside of DC, and more importantly, internet! Christ I hope my legendary power grid holds up or bad things are gonna start happening here.
Yeah, same... really hope we don't lose power I don't want to have to manually bail out water again.
Jersey and MD are getting bad flooding. AC and Wildwood are underwater basically and that was pre storm hitting.
this bar in ortley is a few hours from being about two miles inland (beach is usually 100 feet up and this is essentially on top of a dune with lower land behind so it is getting bad)
the pier in ocean city, md got blown away this morning
and here is some dude with a death wish in belmar nj
I think the most amazing part is how few hurricane related deaths there are when people go this far out of their way to throw themselves into danger. There should be like 400 times more when people are actively going out of their way to drive a small boat into the hurricane.
On October 30 2012 02:20 LuckyFool wrote: Where the fuck do you work that they would make you work then LOL. It's literally life threatening conditions to be driving/walking/doing anything outside during those times.
Not sure if it finally got canceled but 4 hours ago one of my coworkers said her husband's company wouldn't cancel the deliveries/setting up of office furniture, despite the fact that 99.999% of the customers were going to close anyways for obvious reasons. They were forcing him to drive up and around Baltimore. Some companies are pretty stupid.
On October 30 2012 02:20 LuckyFool wrote: Where the fuck do you work that they would make you work then LOL. It's literally life threatening conditions to be driving/walking/doing anything outside during those times.
Not sure if it finally got canceled but 4 hours ago one of my coworkers said her husband's company wouldn't cancel the deliveries/setting up of office furniture, despite the fact that 99.999% of the customers were going to close anyways for obvious reasons. They were forcing him to drive up and around Baltimore. Some companies are pretty stupid.
I was scheduled to work as of three hours ago- in central Jersey at a tutoring center.
I WOULD DIE TO TEACH MATH.
<scene cuts to DarkPlasmaBall in the wilderness, dressed like a hunter; he's climbing over logs, taking second derivatives, and exploring concavities, with nothing but a knife-shaped calculator clenched in his teeth>
On October 30 2012 01:03 KrazyTrumpet wrote: 12pm and I still have power here just outside of DC, and more importantly, internet! Christ I hope my legendary power grid holds up or bad things are gonna start happening here.
Yeah, same... really hope we don't lose power I don't want to have to manually bail out water again.
Well, I just meant I'm going to go fucking nuts without internet. I'm a major addict by this point, and even a day without would almost certainly kill me!
I'm in Amherst,Mass and our school is closed today for dumb reasons. I have to say right now this storm is nothing but a joke. Everyone saying this is a once in a lifetime storm, all I can say is HYPE. Everyone is comparing this to the 91 storm, this is nothing compared to the 91 storm and I experienced the 91 storm when I was six. I expected worse but it's just another typical New England weather day for me.
it hasn't even hit nj yet, much less mass. if it is anything what south jersey looks like now before it truly hits, yeah it is gonna be rough. and you guys might get snow depending where you are!
My trainining in Boston was supposed to happen this week. Flight got cancelled, training got cancelled, I'm super bummed. .
I was planning on going to Salem, MA for Halloween. Another person in my office left early to go to the training on Friday (so she could sightsee for the weekend). Now she's stuck there for like a week. She's with family, so she'll be ok, but that totally sucks...
'' PSE&G urges customers to prepare for the possibility of lengthy outages - perhaps seven days or more -- due to the enormity of Hurricane Sandy, which forecasters predict may become the worst storm to hit the Northeast in 100 years. It may take until Wednesday until a full assessment of the storm's damage can be made and the utility can more accurately predict when full restoration can be made. '
On October 30 2012 03:50 TriO wrote: I'm in Amherst,Mass and our school is closed today for dumb reasons. I have to say right now this storm is nothing but a joke. Everyone saying this is a once in a lifetime storm, all I can say is HYPE. Everyone is comparing this to the 91 storm, this is nothing compared to the 91 storm and I experienced the 91 storm when I was six. I expected worse but it's just another typical New England weather day for me.
It hasn't even remotely come close to you guys yet...
If you're feeling the effects of this shit right now when it hasn't even fully landed in Maryland-ish yet, I've got news for you unless it dies down considerably...
On October 30 2012 05:37 QuanticHawk wrote: '' PSE&G urges customers to prepare for the possibility of lengthy outages - perhaps seven days or more -- due to the enormity of Hurricane Sandy, which forecasters predict may become the worst storm to hit the Northeast in 100 years. It may take until Wednesday until a full assessment of the storm's damage can be made and the utility can more accurately predict when full restoration can be made. '
well shit.
I had no power for a week after the Derecho this summer. They were saying that was the worst storm in100 years too. This is not our year
My biggest fear is the loss of Internet during the storm. WHAT IS LIFE WITHOUT IT? So yeah... Montreal is pretty safe from the storm so no huge worries for me. Good luck for all the East Coasters though!
On October 30 2012 03:50 TriO wrote: I'm in Amherst,Mass and our school is closed today for dumb reasons. I have to say right now this storm is nothing but a joke. Everyone saying this is a once in a lifetime storm, all I can say is HYPE. Everyone is comparing this to the 91 storm, this is nothing compared to the 91 storm and I experienced the 91 storm when I was six. I expected worse but it's just another typical New England weather day for me.
Looking at photos of the storm coming in on the east coast and the tide+surge before it has even shown up and I'm pretty dumbfounded. I've never seen a hurricane personally but I can tell this one is gonna be a bad one. Good luck all.
Makes me glad to live in boring old Missouri where all I have to worry about is the occasional pesky twister or two. (mostly) no natural disasters FTW!
On October 30 2012 07:23 sorrowptoss wrote: My biggest fear is the loss of Internet during the storm. WHAT IS LIFE WITHOUT IT? So yeah... Montreal is pretty safe from the storm so no huge worries for me. Good luck for all the East Coasters though!
Shack up with a girl, buy a whole bunch of stuff you don't need power to cook, get some good books, a candle or two, spend the entire week in bed.
My folks back in the city have lost power, so I'm hoping for the best for them. Currently it's been pretty flooded. So the people saying it is overhyped haven't really been keeping up. We're not even at high tide yet, and its doing some massive damage along the coast.
Just keep in mind the people more inland won't suffer as much unless your near a large body of water.
On October 30 2012 10:14 Dapper_Cad wrote: Maybe luckyfool can correct me but I think those inland might get some serious snow as this storm gets further north.
I live in central/ north Jersey, and our power went out for a few hours but came back on before we even woke up. Up here, the hurricane pretty much missed us. Some decent wind and rain for a short period of time, but no big deal. South Jersey flooded pretty hard though, according to weather updates.
Damage so far in my part of the DC area has been: a 30 sec power outage, and a damp book when I decided to take my AC unit out of my window (since it's winter anyway) and forgot that of course it would be filled with water.
Had no idea you were into meteorology, Lucky. Nice write-up, but I wish it wasn't necessary. Katrina was bad, but for some reason this seems much worse.
I was in a tornado a couple years ago and was without power for weeks. A nurse from a hurricane prone country said that tornado's scare her much worse, because there's little warning compared to a hurricane. Is that true, Lucky?
My thoughts are with all of those who are feeling Sandy's impact. I hope y'all will be safe.
so funny to see the difference in cultures. here in florida we have parties on the beach as one of these tiny storms is about to hit. in ny, people screaming armageddon and clogging up my news feeds with "news of the storm" are people honestly worried?
On October 31 2012 02:19 LeSioN wrote: so funny to see the difference in cultures. here in florida we have parties on the beach as one of these tiny storms is about to hit. in ny, people screaming armageddon and clogging up my news feeds with "news of the storm" are people honestly worried?
Dude, so rude, of course there's a difference. In NY and northern states they are horribly prepared to defend against these kinds of things; FL gets hit with them regularly. building codes, flood preparation and protocol, even just the mindset of people will be different, look at the damage caused already, people have a right to be worried. While yes a hurricane in FL can be laughable(I have a house in Venice,FL, and was there during a hurricane/TroStorm this year), imagine a blizzard! Hundreds of people would freeze to death due to the nature of house insulation, pipes would burst, telephone/power lines would collapse under the weight of snow etc etc...
PS check out the satellite images, this is the "perfect storm" come again. Only happens once and awhile, but when it does, look out!
Sandy was a Category 1 in wind only, every other aspects of it were Cat 3-4, pressure, etc.
On top of that it collided with a Nor'Easter, which is scary enough on its own and turned into what they are calling Superstorm because they didn't know what the hell to call it otherwise.
There was 15+ foot stormsurge in NYC, almost none of which is behind levies, placed under sea level so that houses would be flooded over their roofs if the seawall collapsed.
Just because Katrina had more deaths doesn't mean that this wasn't destructive. It isn't the oppression Olympics, it is like saying my earthquake kicked your blizzard's ass. Two totally different problems.
As someone that was on Sanibel during Hurricane Charlie, the flooding in NYC scares me more than the destruction that they had there. NYC has 600+ miles of underground subway tracks alone, not to mention all the other underground utilities that will be causing problems, and the winds were increased exponentially for all the massive skyscrapers. Entire streets are flooded, and people are trapped because of livewires. The reported death roll is only 30, but bodies will be found over the next few weeks from people that thought like you and didn't take it seriously.
Apparently it was worse further north, but here in DC it wasn't bad. I know folks in MD are without power, which sucks, but I think the worst of the flooding is north of here.
As someone in MD who lost power and has friends and family all over the North East, I am still terrified for them. Some people haven't checked back in yet or been heard from at all.
Billions and billions of dollars in damage so far. NYC subways are done for days the cleanup of all the floodwaters/debris out of the tunnels that got flooded is going to be a huge effort.
On October 31 2012 03:32 LuckyFool wrote: Billions and billions of dollars in damage so far. NYC subways are done for days the cleanup of all the floodwaters/debris out of the tunnels that got flooded is going to be a huge effort.
On October 31 2012 03:32 LuckyFool wrote: Billions and billions of dollars in damage so far. NYC subways are done for days the cleanup of all the floodwaters/debris out of the tunnels that got flooded is going to be a huge effort.
How are you doing personally Rob?
well he's a lucky fool so he probably still has comfortable power and everything
bronx is untouched... Midtown and lower manhattan is screwed, all subway will be done for days. New Jersey coastline towns partially washed away. Huge damages in some areas of Queens and Staten Island. Fallen trees are everywhere. Pretty shitty situation in general.
On October 31 2012 03:32 LuckyFool wrote: Billions and billions of dollars in damage so far. NYC subways are done for days the cleanup of all the floodwaters/debris out of the tunnels that got flooded is going to be a huge effort.
How are you doing personally Rob?
I'm fine, no damage to house, didn't even lose power. #liveduptomyname
On October 31 2012 03:32 LuckyFool wrote: Billions and billions of dollars in damage so far. NYC subways are done for days the cleanup of all the floodwaters/debris out of the tunnels that got flooded is going to be a huge effort.
How are you doing personally Rob?
I'm fine, no damage to house, didn't even lose power. #liveduptomyname
No school tomorrow, and my house has power and internet.
-- In Richmond Hill, Queens, a 23-year-old woman taking cellphone photos of a power line that had caught fire suffered a horrific death after she stepped on a live wire on the sidewalk and fell to the ground, screaming.
"She was right on top of the live cables and they were just frying her," said neighbor Renny Bhagretta, 44, who watched from his window on 134th St. Monday night. "She couldn't move. She didn't have a chance."
Police, firefighters and Con Edison workers couldn’t get near the victim for almost two hours because cables strewn all over the road were still sparking.
"Her body was burning," said neighbor Asha Bhagaretti, 43. "It was just horrifying."
light rainstorm with a bit of wind. and weatherman said eye was supposed to hit us. this is worse hype than that storm of the century thing we had a couple years back. if you don't live on the coast, than whats up with the hype. cities need to get their infrastructure together. on my block he have 2 power boxes. power rarely goes out no matter how strong a storm.
I live in Bel Air, Maryland. The worst of the storm passed pretty much right over my house. I'm at a high elevation, so we didn't see much flooding, but the winds were extremely powerful, enough to knock you off your feet at times if you weren't prepared. Not only that, but the winds were sustained for a long period, probably around 8-10 hours. Rainfall didn't seem all that bad, but went on for the better part of 24 hours. Power went out at 5pm last night, didn't come back on until 2pm today. Almost every business, restaurant, and street light was out. Every red light was a four way stop. Minor inconveniences, I know, but when half the morons on the road are on their cellphone, it causes many accidents (and it did).
All the people saying that the storm was "all hype" clearly don't live in an affected area and didn't see what happened in some of the areas around us. Western Maryland was hammered with snow and rain and Ocean City, Maryland as well as other coastal areas around here were completely washed away.
The eye of this storm didn't experience the worst at all. In fact the eye literally dissolved as the storm was engulfed by the other northeast storm system, pushing almost all of the most powerful energy in a north and west motion.
Coastal areas of NJ and NY saw the worst effects, not where the storm actually made landfall or tracked. The push of that energy extended all the way up through long island sound, wind gusts in RI were double what PA saw even though the "center" moved over PA. As that energy was pushed north and then west it created the insane storm surges. This was absolutely no ordinary hurricane, and honestly unlike anything we've really ever seen which is why it was stopped being called a hurricane very quickly and all the major weather outlets started calling it a "superstorm." when that energy shift happened.
Could end up being one of the most costliest storms in U.S history by the time all the flood damage is evaluated. No way is it going to get near Katrina like damage/numbers though.
On October 31 2012 02:19 LeSioN wrote: so funny to see the difference in cultures. here in florida we have parties on the beach as one of these tiny storms is about to hit. in ny, people screaming armageddon and clogging up my news feeds with "news of the storm" are people honestly worried?
You're so desperate to brag about something you chose a storm? Really? You know people died, right? And there are huge parts of a major city that are completely destroyed?
I'm fine, the wife and I are just exhausted but happy the power is back. Neighborhood seems fine, few big trees fell but none seems to have hit anyone's homes or anything.
Hope everyone is doing well. I just had a question regarding the type of storm this was...would it be classified as a 'once in a century' type of storm? I remember reading about the Netherlands levee system and how it wasn't designed to handle extreme flooding (as in holy shit this storm is insane flooding, far worse then the yearly worst), as being able to handle such a storm was too expensive. I was wondering if it were the same type of situation in regards to how unprepared the east coast was for this storm.
It is more of a perfect storm than a once in a century storm.
A similar occurrence happened about 20 years ago, a mix of two powerful destructive systems mashing together with exactly the right trajectory and very slow speeds, thankfully it sped up.
For a, I guess, what they are now calling a "Superstorm", you need to have a hurricane and a nor'easter happen at the same time, with the hurricane heading further north before landfall.
im in the corner of pennsylvania and the storm pretty much went directly over my house, and we just lost electricity and a couple of branches off our trees. not so bad i didnt realize it was such a big deal until i heard that 68 people have died. i dont really know what to say.
-- In Richmond Hill, Queens, a 23-year-old woman taking cellphone photos of a power line that had caught fire suffered a horrific death after she stepped on a live wire on the sidewalk and fell to the ground, screaming.
"She was right on top of the live cables and they were just frying her," said neighbor Renny Bhagretta, 44, who watched from his window on 134th St. Monday night. "She couldn't move. She didn't have a chance."
Police, firefighters and Con Edison workers couldn’t get near the victim for almost two hours because cables strewn all over the road were still sparking.
"Her body was burning," said neighbor Asha Bhagaretti, 43. "It was just horrifying."
sorry for double post but stuff like this bothers me because it could have been avoided so easily. why was she so close to a live powerline? why did she feel the need to take pictures of a live powerline at such close distance? just why? needless death.
seriously ppl during events like just just stay in safety. u dont have to take pictures of downed trees, live power lines, and etc u really dont. there are payed ppl that know what they are doing to do that for u. i just dont understand why u would put ur life in danger just to take a crappy cell phone photo. use common sense. if u have to take a picture that badly than do it from a very far and safe distance. most cameras have a zoom feature...
Power out since last monday .-. and no LIPA to be found. (Long Island Power Authority), although my house is fine many are flooded and its impossible to live in them. I live in Massapequa Park on Long Island New York GL to anyone who has damage.
On October 31 2012 02:19 LeSioN wrote: so funny to see the difference in cultures. here in florida we have parties on the beach as one of these tiny storms is about to hit. in ny, people screaming armageddon and clogging up my news feeds with "news of the storm" are people honestly worried?
Where I live many people have had their entire homes destroyed and have lost things that can never be replaced, and lives have been lost. Also you cant have a party on the beach in this sort of thing because of something called a storm surge and from what I understand the beach that I go to no longer exists, how about you come up to the effected ares and tell everyone how fun storms like this are, i'm sure the women who had her two young children ripped from her arms in the middle of surge and the next time she saw them was to identify the bodies would love to here about how much fun you have during these kinds of things, you should think before you say something so insensitive and stupid.
Some Images, just got my internet service working with a generator still no power .-. almost two weeks
I have more but dont want to run out of gas on my generator so see you guys when i get power which is supposed to be Monday, but then again it was supposed to be today, and before that Wednesday night .-.
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