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I just saw a post from rekrul for the first time in a while, and it ignited memories of my old days in BW. I never really achieved anything, but I also never really realized that I had some potential. Well, as much potential as a foreigner could have at least. Anyway, I started off playing the game with money maps back around 2000 or 2001. A shameful act, indeed. However, I was introduced to the joys of limited money maps and had a great amount of fun with them.
I played a fair amount, though with no guidance. My PvT generally consisted of me going speedlot/goon into carriers. PvZ was frequently 9/10 gate (if I recall correctly) into high templars or corsairs and I cant even really remember what I did in PvP. Due to my money map days, my macro was actually really strong, probably the one thing that really made me decent. I learned about the korean scene and used my parents internet at their office to download VOD's and if possible FPVOD's. I was in awe at their talent. IntoTheRain, GARIMTO, xGs.Grrr, Boxer, elky, Nazgul, Yellow... all so awesome. Nazgul and GARIMTO were my idols of the time, as a protoss player.
Overall, in my 6-9 month stint of playing normal maps in BW I managed to get to a point where I could hold my own against people that were playing in and winning the WCG qualifiers for their countries. I had contacts with these people and played with them. Really solid and strong players. Then I stopped and moved on to CS.
I played CS largely in pubs, one particular pub that I found seemed to attract some pretty solid players. I started off horrible of course, as this was my first PC FPS. I progressed to the point where people frequently called me a hacker. I could pull some amazing stuff, for a pub player. The closest I ever got to competing though was ringing and holding my own in scrims for some friends in cal-im. Then came the behemoth time sink that is known as WoW.
WoW is probably the closest I have gotten to seeing how well I can do. But, I still didnt follow through all the way. I started off with just friends, but ended up progressing to our servers #1 guild. I stayed with this guild until I stopped playing WoW. We did reasonably well, even managing to pick up a top 100 US kill on one of the hardest bosses in the game at the time. I even applied to one of the top 5 guilds in the US and was accepted, but decided against moving because of the excessive time requirements and my waning desire to play.
Now, with StarCraft 2... I got up to a pretty decent masters rating after only a few hundred games... then stopped playing again. And here I am, wondering if maybe I ever had a chance at really making it somewhere with any of these games. If I had just stuck with them, would I have achieved something awesome? 2AM thoughts and memories are fun.
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Wow, you're really good at video games. Who knows
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Wow, I have such respect for CS players as I personally find the game impossible (Yet still sink hours into the game). If you had started a career in any of these games would you have been happy with the fact you might have not become an A-team player? We hear stories of these B-team BW players who switched to SC2 because they were unhappy with how far they had got.
The time sink of the MMO is a joke, I played Allods for a year and managed to sink a month of time into the game on one character, that's nearly 1000 hours of my time, and what do I have to show for it? Nothing really, I suppose I made some friendships which have followed onto LoL etc. but nothing else.
Sounds like you could have made it, maybe not, but who knows?
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if i went full out on pro, i maybe couldve gone quite far. but i never had the desire to be pro, its exhausting as fuck, youre future is unsure.
i like to be on a decent level and enjoy playing / watching (and actually fully understand what i watch...) - no reason to even tryhard on going pro 
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On October 19 2012 20:19 Inori wrote:
Anyone can get to about top 0.5% and if they're talented then 0.01%, simply because bar isn't actually that high if you keep in mind we're talking about playing video games here.
Most people realize they're wasting way too much of their time on irrelevant stuff (below top 100-150 sc2 players barely make min. wage, while learning absolutely nothing in a field they will fall out of sooner or later) and move on to tackle actually hard stuff, like pursuing a career or raising kids or climbing Mt. Everest, whatever.
Ridiculous statement. If you value time in money, you probably don't enjoy life. I never got paid to get laid, but still enjoy it pretty well, lol.
Why can you not see that some people actually just like what they are doing?
Fuck yeah i am "wasting" hours, months even, by your standards. But the time i put into starcraft so far, have been a lot of fun and enjoyment.
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On October 19 2012 20:19 Inori wrote:
Anyone can get to about top 0.5% and if they're talented then 0.01%, simply because bar isn't actually that high if you keep in mind we're talking about playing video games here.
Most people realize they're wasting way too much of their time on irrelevant stuff (below top 100-150 sc2 players barely make min. wage, while learning absolutely nothing in a field they will fall out of sooner or later) and move on to tackle actually hard stuff, like pursuing a career or raising kids or climbing Mt. Everest, whatever.
I dont think that anybody can get to the top .5%. Just look to SC2's ladder system as an example. There are a lot of people that struggle within their leagues. They want to move up, but something is holding them back for some reason. Also, getting somewhere big in a game is equally as awesome as climbing mt. everest. They are also both hobbies.
On October 19 2012 20:23 Targe wrote:
Wow, I have such respect for CS players as I personally find the game impossible (Yet still sink hours into the game). If you had started a career in any of these games would you have been happy with the fact you might have not become an A-team player? We hear stories of these B-team BW players who switched to SC2 because they were unhappy with how far they had got.
I probably wouldnt have been happy being a B-team player. I am really competitive and would probably end up being frustrated at not being able to break it into the A-team. I still think that getting to that B-team status would be a huge accomplishment though. How many people can say that they were just one more peak away from being a professional at something?
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On October 19 2012 23:22 TheRabidDeer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 20:19 Inori wrote:
Anyone can get to about top 0.5% and if they're talented then 0.01%, simply because bar isn't actually that high if you keep in mind we're talking about playing video games here.
Most people realize they're wasting way too much of their time on irrelevant stuff (below top 100-150 sc2 players barely make min. wage, while learning absolutely nothing in a field they will fall out of sooner or later) and move on to tackle actually hard stuff, like pursuing a career or raising kids or climbing Mt. Everest, whatever. I dont think that anybody can get to the top .5%. Just look to SC2's ladder system as an example. There are a lot of people that struggle within their leagues. They want to move up, but something is holding them back for some reason. Also, getting somewhere big in a game is equally as awesome as climbing mt. everest. They are also both hobbies. Show nested quote +On October 19 2012 20:23 Targe wrote:
Wow, I have such respect for CS players as I personally find the game impossible (Yet still sink hours into the game). If you had started a career in any of these games would you have been happy with the fact you might have not become an A-team player? We hear stories of these B-team BW players who switched to SC2 because they were unhappy with how far they had got. I probably wouldnt have been happy being a B-team player. I am really competitive and would probably end up being frustrated at not being able to break it into the A-team. I still think that getting to that B-team status would be a huge accomplishment though. How many people can say that they were just one more peak away from being a professional at something?
If it doesn't give me the freedom and money to live my lifestyle I could care less about being a B teamer. I suppose that's why most people never attempt to put the effort into it, the initial time investment is too heavy and the possibility of going "pro" is so slim its almost like winning the lottery.
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I probably wouldnt have been happy being a B-team player. I am really competitive and would probably end up being frustrated at not being able to break it into the A-team. I still think that getting to that B-team status would be a huge accomplishment though. How many people can say that they were just one more peak away from being a professional at something?
B-team status IS of course a massive achievement, especially if it had been BW and you as a foreigner, if you enjoyed sc2 enough to live like as a B-teamer I would think that would be worth it, to be round your idols all day, doing the thing you love!
If it doesn't give me the freedom and money to live my lifestyle I could care less about being a B teamer. I suppose that's why most people never attempt to put the effort into it, the initial time investment is too heavy and the possibility of going "pro" is so slim its almost like winning the lottery.
Yeah, I suppose some people who do it must do it for love of the game.
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