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EthanML
Profile Joined May 2011
Northern Ireland55 Posts
September 25 2012 19:54 GMT
#161
logos on the scoreboard is one thing, a Red Bull logo in the middle of maps is another entirely and would be horrible.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
September 26 2012 01:07 GMT
#162
Big news on this front.

We've linked up with the Starboard developer to make the Virtual Jersey overlay a reality. We're looking to completely redo the application in the style shown in the concepts, put team and sponsor logos directly into the application itself and auto-populate all of them within the application. Once we're happy with it we plan to release it for any tournament to use. It will be just as easy to use as any normal overlay application, it'll do all the hard work for you.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
CreatorGX
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 01:13:21
September 26 2012 01:12 GMT
#163
From TB's twitter not too long ago: (Source)
Hooked up with the Starboard developer to make a fully functional Virtual Jersey overlay app a reality. Lets see if we can pull this off.


Good, I'm really interested to see how this concept can turn out, now that it's actually happening.

EDIT: Oop, TB himself beat me to it.
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DiamondTear
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland165 Posts
September 26 2012 14:38 GMT
#164
I always thought it was very odd that even the team names weren't shown in the overlays.
gplayer
Profile Joined March 2011
Romania106 Posts
September 27 2012 13:54 GMT
#165
Good idea, I think this is definitely the future.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 27 2012 17:27 GMT
#166
Glad to see it and hopefully smaller events will be able to take advantage of it. Big groups like MLG likely are restricted as to what logos they can put on the stream, but everyone else could use a product like this.
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gXxshock
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany93 Posts
November 15 2012 12:24 GMT
#167
On September 26 2012 10:07 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Big news on this front.

We've linked up with the Starboard developer to make the Virtual Jersey overlay a reality. We're looking to completely redo the application in the style shown in the concepts, put team and sponsor logos directly into the application itself and auto-populate all of them within the application. Once we're happy with it we plan to release it for any tournament to use. It will be just as easy to use as any normal overlay application, it'll do all the hard work for you.


Awesome, thanks for putting so much effort into this

Will it be available for free for non-commercial tournaments/casters?
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 19:04:50
December 13 2012 19:02 GMT
#168
DELIVERIN' UPDATE

Take a look at this thing

[image loading]

This is the work-in-progress version of our Virtual Jersey Starboard, which we hope will become a new standard for any willing tournament or caster. Most of you are probably familiar with Starboard, those who are not it is one of the most popular scoreboard overlay programs and is used in many forms by tournaments and casters. This is our version.

At present, the sponsors auto-populate onto the board based on the logo you choose from a specific folder. Ultimately, they will do so based on the team you pick from a dropdown menu, making it as simple as a single click to display a teams logo and up to 4 sponsors on the board, overlaying the Blizzard scoreboard and still showing the supplies. If you want to do that, you will need the top narrow menu bar on to properly align everything, otherwise you won't have the space. We're looking to hopefully do a configurable version later down the line which allows you to put sponsors below if you don't want to use the Blizzard scoreboard.

Yeah I know the sponsors aren't up to date for root, this is very much a work in progress. Point is it works and all that needs doing is the adding of additional art assets, updated sponsors and the implementation of the dropdown menu system. Once that's in place we will be prepared to release this version of Starboard for everyone who wants it.

The first outing of this version of Starboard will be with the SHOUTcraft HotS tournament on Sunday. The end-goal of increasing sponsorship ROI for Starcraft 2 across the board is coming a little closer.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18864 Posts
December 13 2012 19:07 GMT
#169
^Looks pretty sweet, though I'm almost more drawn to your desktop background
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gXxshock
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany93 Posts
December 13 2012 21:49 GMT
#170
Is there an ETA on when this will be available to the general public (even as a beta release or something)?
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Gropah
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands58 Posts
December 31 2012 10:38 GMT
#171
Still looking for a public release. We would love to try and use it (for $1000+ tourney), if we can get our hands on it.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 06:14:42
April 04 2013 05:55 GMT
#172
Alright, an update.

To remind people what this is. Virtual Jersey is a scoreboard overlay designed to display team sponsors in-game in an unobtusive manner, just like a real team jersey at an offline event. The purpose is to improve sponsor ROI across the entire Starcraft 2 scene by closing the gap between offline and online events. Prior to this, the only way for a sponsor to be recognized at all in an online tournament was to be the title sponsor and be part of the players username itself and even then, some tournaments over-wrote this with their own custom scoreboards. It's pretty hard to show your teams sponsors if nobody can see your jersey, at least until now.

It's been a while, however we have made progress. We had a few objectives in mind.

1) Change the scoreboard design to move sponsors below it rather than above (due to changes in HotS AI)
2) Swap the position of team and race icons for better visibility.
3) Find a way to let Youtube casters use the scoreboard, which was previously extremely difficult/impossible due to the way the overlay program works. Youtube casters generally do not use software which would capture a screen overlay like that.
4) Find a way to allow streamers to avoid using screen-region capture since it is fiddly, resource heavy and ultimately of inferior quality to DXtory/Gamesource capture methods.

Good news? We've nailed all of that. I'll be showing the new version in the Teamstory cup tomorrow for Axiom vs Mousesports. The 3rd and 4th methods were challenging, however we came up with a fairly elegant solution and that is an inbuilt screen-shot feature within Virtual Jersey itself. Pressing this button will save an exact copy of the scoreboard in it's current form as a .png image with a transparent background. This allows Youtube casters to easily slot it in with their favorite editing software such as Premiere or Vegas. Overlay it on the video footage and bam, you have a slick looking scoreboard with sponsor logos built in. Simply save the state of the scoreboard for each map as a separate image and you're golden. It's simple and effective. For users of Xsplit, you can save the initial image and insert it as a layer in your Xsplit scene. Since Virtual Jersey saves new screenshots to the same folder, you can save over the image, reload the scene and bam, your scoreboard is updated with exactly the same positions and dimensions. This merely takes 2 clicks more than updating the scoreboard usually would anyway and takes barely a second.

Currently things look a little like this.

[image loading]

The holes in the center will show races. That's not working right now due to a bug that we should have fixed before tomorrows show (we hope). The program is pulling automatic sponsor information based on the teams in it's database. This sponsor information exists as a preset image for each team with the top 4 sponsors listed. The option for .gif rotations is available for teams with more than 4 sponsors. We will most likely redesign some of the logos and make them easier to see using vectors instead of tiny images in future. The program is not ready for public release, but we're getting there. We hope the functionality we are providing will allow many casters and streamers to use this program to provide sponsor ROI just like an offline tournament and a real team jersey. More sponsors helps the entire scene.

What it doesn't do

Properly overlay on the in-game scoreboard. Due to changes in the HotS UI this is currently impossible. The next stage after we have completely development would be to develop a custom UI that is integrated with this design to allow for better display of information.

Future potential functionality:

* Pull up-to-date sponsorship information from an online database.
* Xsplit Plugin
* Gamesource capture, overlay the scoreboard with Gamesource for extra convenience!
* Hotkeys to allow quick updates and image saves on the fly.
* Variable scoreboard designs.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Trilandian
Profile Joined March 2011
Israel78 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 06:16:23
April 04 2013 06:15 GMT
#173
Extra! Extra! Read all about it! TotalBiscuit saves eSports!

Great job, TB. Way to make your stamp on the SC2 eSports scene.
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ChanmanV
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1156 Posts
April 04 2013 06:20 GMT
#174
Very cool TB .. this will be so useful from standpoint of brand impressions/etc. and it seems pretty easy to use.
Flench
Profile Joined June 2012
United States21 Posts
April 04 2013 07:36 GMT
#175
How is just putting the sponsors over the gameplay area unobtrusive?
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 04 2013 07:39 GMT
#176
On April 04 2013 16:36 Flench wrote:
How is just putting the sponsors over the gameplay area unobtrusive?


Explain why it is obtrusive. It is the same size as the in game scoreboard. Burden of proof is on the accuser.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
April 04 2013 08:03 GMT
#177
How do you plan to get the sponsors right ? If you are relying on LP, most infos are probably outdated.
pluu.mooh
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Austria142 Posts
April 04 2013 09:19 GMT
#178
I think what this "project" would need is a big update by starboard creators. It would need the so called "sponsor-panel" to be fixed with lets say 3-4 sponsorpositions above the name with a slider like rotation of all (like if you have mor than 4) for proper distribution. Also it would need an external database with fixed logos, accounts of sponsors and team accounts related to the sponsors accounts. Once this is established it will rock out every tournament I'm pretty sure. Contact the guys, give em some money, push you project and finally do what blizzard doesn't want to do Just sayin!
Rainman5419
Profile Joined January 2011
United States92 Posts
April 04 2013 10:31 GMT
#179
Looking great TB and HSC crew.

@Otolia, if that stuff isn't updated on LP we need too, but I'm sure they've got updated info since the teams are more than happy to send that out with a system like this in place.
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Chaosniper
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada9 Posts
April 04 2013 12:37 GMT
#180
On April 04 2013 18:19 pluu.mooh wrote:
I think what this "project" would need is a big update by starboard creators. It would need the so called "sponsor-panel" to be fixed with lets say 3-4 sponsorpositions above the name with a slider like rotation of all (like if you have mor than 4) for proper distribution. Also it would need an external database with fixed logos, accounts of sponsors and team accounts related to the sponsors accounts. Once this is established it will rock out every tournament I'm pretty sure. Contact the guys, give em some money, push you project and finally do what blizzard doesn't want to do Just sayin!

I believe TB is actually working with the Starboard creators to make this a plugin for Starboard.
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