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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
September 14 2012 10:44 GMT
#81
I always had this problem with online tournament, most of the time players can't promote their sponsors at all, and if you can make it a "standard" way to implement players sponsors in online tournament it would help the scene so much. Please please make it work!
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
September 14 2012 11:11 GMT
#82
More than anything I feel extremely stupid for not thinking of this on my own, this is a great idea and makes tons of sense. It's really non-intrusive and a nice way to associate the sponsors with what they support.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
atakaman
Profile Joined September 2012
Greece1 Post
September 14 2012 11:51 GMT
#83
+1
εν οιδα, οτι ουδεν οιδα
MrLion
Profile Joined December 2010
India93 Posts
September 14 2012 11:56 GMT
#84
This is a really neat idea. Hopefully, Blizzard allows manipulating the score UI, the menu seems kinda intrusive. Blizzard should actively work on great ideas like this. Valve and Riot are so far ahead in interacting with the community and developing the pro gamer scene.
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
September 14 2012 11:56 GMT
#85
On September 14 2012 20:11 heyoka wrote:
More than anything I feel extremely stupid for not thinking of this on my own, this is a great idea and makes tons of sense. It's really non-intrusive and a nice way to associate the sponsors with what they support.


I too get this feeling of "how come nobody thought about this before"

Well done TB!

Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
Greem
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
730 Posts
September 14 2012 11:57 GMT
#86
ye, i wonder why nobody thought about this for the past 2 years sc2 been out. I guess UI is so poor that , well it wasn't even possible.
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Serdiuk
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium145 Posts
September 14 2012 12:07 GMT
#87
So simple yet brilliant, good one TB.
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 12:12:10
September 14 2012 12:11 GMT
#88
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Yngvi
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands70 Posts
September 14 2012 12:13 GMT
#89
Brilliant idea, I've been looking forward to this ever since youvw mentioned it at Real Talk. Huge kudos to you and your team!
CrooKy
Profile Joined September 2012
Austria1 Post
September 14 2012 12:16 GMT
#90
Keep it up TB! love your steely determination.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
September 14 2012 12:22 GMT
#91
That looks awesome. Great idea!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
vanTuni
Profile Joined October 2009
389 Posts
September 14 2012 12:25 GMT
#92
Great idea, about time someone came up with it ^^
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
September 14 2012 13:15 GMT
#93
On September 14 2012 20:56 TOCHMY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 20:11 heyoka wrote:
More than anything I feel extremely stupid for not thinking of this on my own, this is a great idea and makes tons of sense. It's really non-intrusive and a nice way to associate the sponsors with what they support.


I too get this feeling of "how come nobody thought about this before"

Well done TB!



I can tell you why, because everyone who has thought of it before then had a second thought "If this was such a great idea, someone else would have already tried it. I'll just go eat some pancakes now* ". TB on the other hand has the balls to just try it and who cares if it doesn't work of if it was already tried, TB will make it work because he is awesome.

*eating pancakes instead of bringing your idea to fruition is never a good idea
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
YouthSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom355 Posts
September 14 2012 13:17 GMT
#94
I love this idea. However, I'm not sure how other tournaments organizers will like that there are conflicting sponsors (when there are). Look at football (soccer), however.

Conflicting sponsors between the two teams don't really matter, but the adverts in TV may have conflicting sponsors with the ones in the matches (not that it happens too often). Nobody really cares. You watch both, both are engrained in your memory.

I love the scoreboard, I hope these are implemented, sponsors need to be able to be viewed during the games!
The more I practice, the luckier I get!
Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
September 14 2012 13:31 GMT
#95
This is such a great idea TB, I hope this becomes the standard because it looks SO much better and more professional than just having the player's name up there.

Thanks for trying this out, I really think it'll help the scene overall.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 13:36:58
September 14 2012 13:34 GMT
#96
On September 14 2012 03:43 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I've been dead set on this idea for a while. Valve has taken steps to support sponsors directly in the game, realizing that team-jerseys only get seen at live events and eSports for the most part still lives on-line. This is what they did

[image loading]

Real sponsor ROI in an online setting. So important. It stimulates sponsor interest in teams rather than just tournaments. Sponsors get real brand recognition and value for money, it's genius quite frankly. But Starcraft 2 doesn't have it.

Until now.

[image loading]

This is going to be debuting on a cast between these two players on Friday on my SC2 Youtube channel. It's purpose is to unintrusively, but clearly show a "virtual team jersey" permanently on the screen without obscuring or interfering with tournament sponsor logos or other parts of the UI. It's designed to function with the menu bar on, which I personally don't view as a big deal at all and overlay directly over the in-game scoreboard. It looks something like this.

[image loading]

Obviously that's just a concept image, so ignore that it's over the wrong races etc.

This system will debut in my SC2 casts over on http://www.youtube.com/totalbiscuit and in future SHOUTcraft Invitational events.

"But it's not the tournaments responsibility!" you may cry. I disagree heartily. It is the tournament's best interests. The more money goes into the scene the better it is for the tournament, the better it is for us all. Any reasonable step that can be taken to ensure good sponsorship ROI should be taken, regardless of whether it's "your" sponsor. I also firmly believe that while live events are rightfully popular, a healthy and active online tournament scene is REQUIRED for the sustainability of eSports. Money must be available to be won without significant investment or risk. Travelling to an event is a financial burden on a team. The more legitimate online events there are, the more money a team can generate without the large travel and accommodation outlay of travelling to say an MLG, Dreamhack or IPL. By raising the value of online tournaments to team sponsors, you can generate additional interest in the scene, attract new sponsors and encourage existing ones to maintain or upgrade their sponsorships.

And if nobody else decides to do it, well fuck it, SHOUTcraft branded events and casts will.


Do it TB; I'm all for it.

Unfortunately it isn't the organizers duty to do that because in many cases it would go against their sponsors wishes as a lot of those companies would be viewed as competitors and they would fight against.

They would want their brand covered throughout the layout and doodads if there were any as well.

Another thing I'd like to see is more graphic art in productions that way the commentators don't always have to repeat the same plugs over and over again.

I'm all for more visualizations.
Nairi
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland75 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 13:47:48
September 14 2012 13:41 GMT
#97
And if nobody else decides to do it, well fuck it, SHOUTcraft branded events and casts will


10/10

In regards to event sponsors. My suggestion would be to have their name included in the maps played, such as with the old pringles logo. This way for instance red bull would still get more exposure for a online tournament they are hosting than say monster, except perhaps if stephano wins the whole thing, but that would just make it good ROI for monster, it is after all alot cheaper to host a tournament than a pro team.
Live long and prosper -Han Solo. Twitter: @Nairisc
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 13:46:53
September 14 2012 13:44 GMT
#98
You're basically right, but what I don't understand is why this hasn't been done from the beginning. It's not as if there wasn't 12 years of a predecessor that had mastered this. There is no reason to be so reliant on Blizzard's UI. You need to keep things fresh, and sometimes a part of that is making your own graphics and keeping things new each season. The added benefit is that it stops looking like you're filming a game and more like a TV production ;p The sad thing is that you're only doing this after OGN has transitioned to SC2 and brought forth their BW casting techniques. Stops looking like your idea, and more like 'oh no now we have to compete with a real broadcaster.'

One thought is that maybe you don't even want to use the players IDs. Maybe you would far prefer to have real people names ;p Another thing Koreans have been doing a long time even if foreigners mostly only knew their IDs.

One thing I'll grant is that because there's so much screen realestate in SC2 at full resolution, it would not be the biggest injustice to have more advertisments than its 640x480 predecessor. Something like a box hanging beneath the player names with a dynamically changing advertisment of various sponsors displayed.
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Sithril
Profile Joined April 2011
Slovakia169 Posts
September 14 2012 13:55 GMT
#99
On September 14 2012 22:44 Chef wrote:
One thought is that maybe you don't even want to use the players IDs. Maybe you would far prefer to have real people names ;p Another thing Koreans have been doing a long time even if foreigners mostly only knew their IDs.

One thing I'll grant is that because there's so much screen realestate in SC2 at full resolution, it would not be the biggest injustice to have more advertisments than its 640x480 predecessor. Something like a box hanging beneath the player names with a dynamically changing advertisment of various sponsors displayed.



Thats exactly my thoughts!
Representing people with their real names would make e-sports less awkward for the general populace.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
September 14 2012 14:01 GMT
#100
Good initiative. Hope sponsors will be content with the little sponsor boxes above the player name plates.
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