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dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 02:14:29
August 24 2012 02:11 GMT
#1
Lent my brother my car to drive to the Bay Area to visit some friends at Berkeley, and he gave me his car to use, which is a stick shift. I think I've stalled it 10 times since in my first attempt to start the car and drive it down my block and back. And I can seemingly only move without stalling when riding the clutch, which I know is bad. Doesn't help that it was parked in my garage and I have to figure out how to reverse without stalling. I guess I'm just too afraid of stalling now to let go of the clutch. Doesn't help that my dad isn't home right now, and he's the only other person I know nearby who knows how to drive stick. Really scary, but I'm determined to figure this shit out.

Watched a few youtube how-to videos, so I know how to do it, it just takes a lot of effort to learn. Anyone got any "general experience" advice from going from an automatic to a manual that might not be covered in a how-to?

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SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 02:21:53
August 24 2012 02:17 GMT
#2
Use more gas when you're starting from a standstill. A lot of new drivers seem to be afraid to use the gas at first, so they end up stalling. The gas pedal is your friend, it wants to help you.

Go to a parking lot and make it your goal to keep the revs at 2k RPM until you're completely off the clutch. You'll notice that the faster you let the clutch out, the faster the revs drop, so you need to use more gas to compensate.

Don't ride the clutch, it's really hard on it.

EDIT:
Rev the engine before you start letting the clutch out. If the revs drop below 1k, immediately press the clutch back in and try again. Do this for 10 minutes or so, then take a break to let the clutch cool off. Eventually, you'll get the hang of it.

If you ever feel like the car is going to stall, just press the clutch back in.
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9162 Posts
August 24 2012 02:19 GMT
#3
Once you can learn how to stop and start without riding the clutch and without rolling backwards, on a steep incline, everything else becomes easy.
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Carapas
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada242 Posts
August 24 2012 02:40 GMT
#4
Don't be afraid to press the gas.
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
August 24 2012 02:42 GMT
#5
try 18 wheeler
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
August 24 2012 03:41 GMT
#6
Everything SnipedSoul said is what I would recommend. If your car doesnt have a tachometer (RPM gauge), you will have to judge it by sound. I learned by sound when picking up driving stick.

There is a point that differs per car, where as you let out the clutch, the car will begin to be able to move without touching the gas pedal. You should have this position down to muscle memory. Of course don't do it too much since it will wear out the clutch a little - but its a good learning tool. It will help you learn where you really need to concentrate on the delicate gas/clutch coordination to initially get it moving.
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DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
August 24 2012 04:11 GMT
#7
On August 24 2012 11:40 Carapas wrote:
Don't be afraid to press the gas.


This this this this this, when i first learned i was to scared to put more gas into the car which lead me to jsut going nowhere and stalling.

My own advice, find a friend you know who drives stick it will make the process a lot less painful and stress full

and lastly, if you can get up a hill in going into first gear you can go anywhere.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 08:45:38
August 24 2012 08:44 GMT
#8
ROFL
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God Bless Americans :D

Imo you should all be learnt to drive a MANUAL (stick shift >.<) first, then you know how to drive them or atleast the basics and then you can be free to purchase any car you like after that (Manual or Automatic)
Biggest tip i can give you, is find where the bite is on your car's clutch, constantly finding the bite on your clutch is the key. Knowing the bite allows you to train your feet to find it so you can pull off with it.
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VenomBRA
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands168 Posts
August 24 2012 09:39 GMT
#9
On August 24 2012 12:41 EscPlan9 wrote:
Everything SnipedSoul said is what I would recommend. If your car doesnt have a tachometer (RPM gauge), you will have to judge it by sound. I learned by sound when picking up driving stick.

There is a point that differs per car, where as you let out the clutch, the car will begin to be able to move without touching the gas pedal. You should have this position down to muscle memory. Of course don't do it too much since it will wear out the clutch a little - but its a good learning tool. It will help you learn where you really need to concentrate on the delicate gas/clutch coordination to initially get it moving.


This point is hard to find, you have to learn how to "feel" the car and getting this point in each car is pretty hard at first. It really helped me to learn when I would drive 3 different cars while learning, the auto-school's car, my mom's and my dad's cars.

Never release the clutch too fast or the car will do a "stutter thing" and "jump" or stall. On higher gears it'll be fine, but it's not good for the car anyway. I liked to find the exact point in each car (I had no RPM meter) when I could just switch gears smoothly without even pushing the gear
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
August 24 2012 09:49 GMT
#10
Always amusing that you americans learn to drive with automatic...

Do what people here have written and you'll be fine. Everything takes practice. =)
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EnE
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
417 Posts
August 24 2012 11:34 GMT
#11
On August 24 2012 18:49 Dirkzor wrote:
Always amusing that you americans learn to drive with automatic...

Do what people here have written and you'll be fine. Everything takes practice. =)


Yeah lol, if you can't drive a manual car, then you can't drive, I don't understand how you're qualified for a license without it, if you're not actually changing the gears.
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HowitZer
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1610 Posts
August 24 2012 12:13 GMT
#12
On August 24 2012 20:34 EnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 18:49 Dirkzor wrote:
Always amusing that you americans learn to drive with automatic...

Do what people here have written and you'll be fine. Everything takes practice. =)


Yeah lol, if you can't drive a manual car, then you can't drive, I don't understand how you're qualified for a license without it, if you're not actually changing the gears.


Because 95%(my own estimate) of the cars in America are automatic.
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HowitZer
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1610 Posts
August 24 2012 12:15 GMT
#13
On August 24 2012 11:11 dabom88 wrote:
Lent my brother my car to drive to the Bay Area to visit some friends at Berkeley, and he gave me his car to use, which is a stick shift. I think I've stalled it 10 times since in my first attempt to start the car and drive it down my block and back. And I can seemingly only move without stalling when riding the clutch, which I know is bad. Doesn't help that it was parked in my garage and I have to figure out how to reverse without stalling. I guess I'm just too afraid of stalling now to let go of the clutch. Doesn't help that my dad isn't home right now, and he's the only other person I know nearby who knows how to drive stick. Really scary, but I'm determined to figure this shit out.

Watched a few youtube how-to videos, so I know how to do it, it just takes a lot of effort to learn. Anyone got any "general experience" advice from going from an automatic to a manual that might not be covered in a how-to?


Relax all of the muscles in your legs and core before shifting. Feel your feet be relaxed. Then your legs will follow your unconscious desires to shift well a little better. Also think about your posture. Have a slightly arched back and flex your core a little while shifting. It's going to provide a good support for the movement.
Human teleportation, molecular decimation, breakdown and reformation is inherently purging. It makes a man acute.
MrASAP
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom63 Posts
August 24 2012 12:21 GMT
#14
i agree with the above, find the bite, if that dosnt work for you, move to england you will have to learn quick :D
EnE
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
417 Posts
August 24 2012 13:02 GMT
#15
On August 24 2012 21:13 HowitZer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 20:34 EnE wrote:
On August 24 2012 18:49 Dirkzor wrote:
Always amusing that you americans learn to drive with automatic...

Do what people here have written and you'll be fine. Everything takes practice. =)


Yeah lol, if you can't drive a manual car, then you can't drive, I don't understand how you're qualified for a license without it, if you're not actually changing the gears.


Because 95%(my own estimate) of the cars in America are automatic.


Very odd. I mean, 95% of flying is done on autopilot, but pilots are still required to know how to fly.
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EPO
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada341 Posts
August 24 2012 13:10 GMT
#16
On August 24 2012 22:02 EnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 21:13 HowitZer wrote:
On August 24 2012 20:34 EnE wrote:
On August 24 2012 18:49 Dirkzor wrote:
Always amusing that you americans learn to drive with automatic...

Do what people here have written and you'll be fine. Everything takes practice. =)


Yeah lol, if you can't drive a manual car, then you can't drive, I don't understand how you're qualified for a license without it, if you're not actually changing the gears.


Because 95%(my own estimate) of the cars in America are automatic.


Very odd. I mean, 95% of flying is done on autopilot, but pilots are still required to know how to fly.

That's kind of a stupid argument... lots of people go their entire lives without driving a manual, so why should they know?
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
August 24 2012 13:16 GMT
#17
Wait, you're allowed to drive manual even though you've never done it? In Sweden (and japan/korea and most other countries probably), you need a specific license to drive manual, if you only drive auto, you're not allowed to drive cars with manual.
EnE
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
417 Posts
August 24 2012 13:30 GMT
#18
On August 24 2012 22:10 EPO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 22:02 EnE wrote:
On August 24 2012 21:13 HowitZer wrote:
On August 24 2012 20:34 EnE wrote:
On August 24 2012 18:49 Dirkzor wrote:
Always amusing that you americans learn to drive with automatic...

Do what people here have written and you'll be fine. Everything takes practice. =)


Yeah lol, if you can't drive a manual car, then you can't drive, I don't understand how you're qualified for a license without it, if you're not actually changing the gears.


Because 95%(my own estimate) of the cars in America are automatic.


Very odd. I mean, 95% of flying is done on autopilot, but pilots are still required to know how to fly.

That's kind of a stupid argument... lots of people go their entire lives without driving a manual, so why should they know?


As would most pilots probably go their entire careers without needing their skills in a potentially life or death situation. I'd still require them for a pilots license, wouldn't you? I'm speaking as a European, so to me, driving a car means managing the steering wheel, pedals AND gears.
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dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
August 24 2012 17:47 GMT
#19
Well, I've now gotten a better hang of it. I've been learning this stuff on my own without anyone beside me, so it was by sheer accident that I figured out that I had to gradually ease off the clutch after going into the first gear and pressing the gas, until it started moving a little bit, and then ease off entirely. Lots of errors when easing off the clutch too quickly.

Still haven't quite mastered going onto my driveway, braking, waiting for the garage to open, and then going into first gear on my driveway, which is on an incline.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
TiCHEN
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands152 Posts
August 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#20
what is very important when driving a manual shift, is diesel or benzin. What kind of fuel do you use?
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
August 24 2012 18:59 GMT
#21
On August 25 2012 03:19 TiCHEN wrote:
what is very important when driving a manual shift, is diesel or benzin. What kind of fuel do you use?

Gasoline pumped at a gas station? Regular?
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5773 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 19:25:01
August 24 2012 19:23 GMT
#22
On August 24 2012 22:30 EnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 22:10 EPO wrote:
On August 24 2012 22:02 EnE wrote:
On August 24 2012 21:13 HowitZer wrote:
On August 24 2012 20:34 EnE wrote:
On August 24 2012 18:49 Dirkzor wrote:
Always amusing that you americans learn to drive with automatic...

Do what people here have written and you'll be fine. Everything takes practice. =)


Yeah lol, if you can't drive a manual car, then you can't drive, I don't understand how you're qualified for a license without it, if you're not actually changing the gears.


Because 95%(my own estimate) of the cars in America are automatic.


Very odd. I mean, 95% of flying is done on autopilot, but pilots are still required to know how to fly.

That's kind of a stupid argument... lots of people go their entire lives without driving a manual, so why should they know?


As would most pilots probably go their entire careers without needing their skills in a potentially life or death situation. I'd still require them for a pilots license, wouldn't you? I'm speaking as a European, so to me, driving a car means managing the steering wheel, pedals AND gears.

Cars are the US version of public transportation, and it's very obnoxious for thousands of commuters to be driving manuals in a traffic jam. Being good at driving a manual is important for driving manuals, it's not necessary for people who drive automatics, even in an evasive manner. An automatic isn't similar to autopilot. Saying everyone needs experience with manual transmissions even if they drive automatics is like saying every pilot needs to know how to fly a Sopwith Camel even if he spends his whole career in a Boeing 737. It's a nice skill set, but it's just not relevant.

On August 25 2012 02:47 dabom88 wrote:
Still haven't quite mastered going onto my driveway, braking, waiting for the garage to open, and then going into first gear on my driveway, which is on an incline.

Your garage isn't permanently ajar now, is it? :X
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dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
August 24 2012 19:40 GMT
#23
On August 25 2012 04:23 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 22:30 EnE wrote:
On August 24 2012 22:10 EPO wrote:
On August 24 2012 22:02 EnE wrote:
On August 24 2012 21:13 HowitZer wrote:
On August 24 2012 20:34 EnE wrote:
On August 24 2012 18:49 Dirkzor wrote:
Always amusing that you americans learn to drive with automatic...

Do what people here have written and you'll be fine. Everything takes practice. =)


Yeah lol, if you can't drive a manual car, then you can't drive, I don't understand how you're qualified for a license without it, if you're not actually changing the gears.


Because 95%(my own estimate) of the cars in America are automatic.


Very odd. I mean, 95% of flying is done on autopilot, but pilots are still required to know how to fly.

That's kind of a stupid argument... lots of people go their entire lives without driving a manual, so why should they know?


As would most pilots probably go their entire careers without needing their skills in a potentially life or death situation. I'd still require them for a pilots license, wouldn't you? I'm speaking as a European, so to me, driving a car means managing the steering wheel, pedals AND gears.

Cars are the US version of public transportation, and it's very obnoxious for thousands of commuters to be driving manuals in a traffic jam. Being good at driving a manual is important for driving manuals, it's not necessary for people who drive automatics, even in an evasive manner. An automatic isn't similar to autopilot. Saying everyone needs experience with manual transmissions even if they drive automatics is like saying every pilot needs to know how to fly a Sopwith Camel even if he spends his whole career in a Boeing 737. It's a nice skill set, but it's just not relevant.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 02:47 dabom88 wrote:
Still haven't quite mastered going onto my driveway, braking, waiting for the garage to open, and then going into first gear on my driveway, which is on an incline.

Your garage isn't permanently ajar now, is it? :X


The remote wont work if I'm on the street, I'm too far away. Have to be close enough to the garage to use it, which means stopping on the driveway and pushing the remote.
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dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 02:39:38
August 25 2012 02:37 GMT
#24
Alright, went out for another drive today. Have a few questions.

The entire time I've been reversing, I've pretty much been riding the clutch. I know it's supposed to be like shifting into first gear, but most of the time that's just to transition into higher gears.

With reversing, I know I'm gonna be going slowly, and gonna need to brake pretty quickly/often, so I just ride the clutch when I'm reversing so I don't stall.

Am I doing it wrong? Is there a better way to reverse where I can just let go of the clutch?

Also, I've been using the clutch when I've been switching to Neutral. That's what you're supposed to do, right?
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
August 25 2012 02:55 GMT
#25
On August 25 2012 11:37 dabom88 wrote:

Also, I've been using the clutch when I've been switching to Neutral. That's what you're supposed to do, right?


Yes, you're supposed to press the clutch before changing to neutral.
guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
August 27 2012 10:46 GMT
#26
I always ride the clutch longer than I should in reverse, but I really only put it in reverse long enough to get the car going then I put it in neutral, stop, and put it in first gear. I used to be really paranoid about riding the clutch because everyone says to not do it, but it's ok to switch gears then let the clutch come up like 80% for a second then release it to make it change gears smoother. It really helps to have someone with you because you don't want to ride the clutch and it's all kind of relative I guess. I practiced a lot in the parking lot at first. I love driving stick now especially in san francisco.
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