On August 16 2012 11:30 jtype wrote: Ah ok, yea that makes more sense to me I guess. I can see where you are coming from now. I hadn't got that from the OP so I didn't realise that was the situation.
edit- And now I can see why you posted the 30 Rock video, lol. I had no idea that was the case.
video game pimps are bad. WoW is bad too, your friend should have just played broodwar and never would have gotten into this situation. no stories of broodwar pimps, at least not that I know of.
On August 16 2012 11:51 LuckyFool wrote: video game pimps are bad. WoW is bad too, your friend should have just played broodwar and never would have gotten into this situation. no stories of broodwar pimps, at least not that I know of.
Actually there are broodwar pimps, but it's even more complicated. Let's say you created a clan for your own benefit, in which the clan was made up of nothing but newbs. You would tell these newbs that if they wanted to try out, they had to be at least D, so they would go reset the accounts, and then play the clan leader in a melee/UMS obs game, When the clan leader sees that they're really bad, he'll play the person again, but in a one on one. This way the clan leader gets points easily from the D- newb, and won't have to suffer a loss. Once he sends him back to the D- ranks, he would tell the person to just change his account name, and that he's welcome in the clan.
This is when the pimp tells him that he's got a lot to learn, but he sees potential in him, and that he would be willing to teach him. The clan leader could get 3 more wins from the same person to rank up quicker with 0 losses, as he teaches him how to do stupid cheeses like proxy 2 gate/4 pool/BBS.
These people end up practicing their cheeses against each other, and eventually some of the players end up hitting D+ with records close to 490428412 wins and 50585058 losses. The clan leader would 1v1 them again once they hit D+, and take his 3 free wins from them, and repeat till he's higher. Eventually with this pyramid pimp scheme, he would end up hitting something like B-. For some reason at that time, he wouldn't stream snipe D+ people, because he'd probably lose to them, even though he stream snipes people all the time in SC2.
On August 16 2012 10:01 jtype wrote: I guess we both feel that the other is miss-judging the situation. I don't think what you're describing relates to what is outlined in the OP and I don't think that 30 Rock video makes the point you think it does.
It's like you don't want to pop some one's bubble the day he leaves the hospital. You want him to come out to the real world, because he's going to have to leave the hospital some day. I mean this guy was like 25 years old when I was 19, and he said that I was the only time he got to leave the hospital. He said before me, he would occasionally get to go home, but it was about once a month.
You don't just criticize some one because of the way they look, or because of the way they walk. Could you imagine what that would do to some one who had never left the hospital. Like he was living a life, where the nurses would clap to him as he would be rapping/singing things like Lil Jon songs. These aren't really things you can get away with here, without getting a bad reaction. You just smile, because he's able to walk. You don't want him to be laughed at, because then he'd just be shy, and maybe depressed. I mean it's like a culture shock. I don't see why you would really want to throw him out into the deep end. There are sharks, pimps, and prostitutes out there.
Very imporant information that was left out of the OP.
This guy is 25. He lives in a hosptial.
Now, where does the critizing come from? Was it from the clan leader? Well, in the OP, there's no mention that the clan leader even knew the situation of the guy.
Sounds like to me that you're a hardcore white knight who doesn't actually have anything to white knight agaisnt. People actually don't like when people pity them their whole lives. Cripples may not like being made fun of, and they probably don't get made fun of that often, but they sure as fuck don't like it when people pity them because of their situation. They don't want constant help from others, they want to do shit on their own. A spouse will certainly help them out, but will also understand when the person wants to do something on their own without pity or help from others.
I also wonder, would this guy really enjoy all this pity? "Oh, this is just too sad." People actually don't like making people feel bad. (Unless you have issues.)
Thanks, The guy with cerebral palsy only had 3 hours a week to leave the hospital. My job was to build up his confidence, so that he could feel good about himself, because he's doing something that people would say he could never do. By the end of the summer, before I left, he hit a 40 ball rally with me. If you don't know what cerebral palsy is, it's like this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmaDtbQ1nuA This video tears me up.
Was it really your job? Did you actually get paid for being this guys buddy? Or did you feel that it was your job?
On August 16 2012 10:01 jtype wrote: I guess we both feel that the other is miss-judging the situation. I don't think what you're describing relates to what is outlined in the OP and I don't think that 30 Rock video makes the point you think it does.
It's like you don't want to pop some one's bubble the day he leaves the hospital. You want him to come out to the real world, because he's going to have to leave the hospital some day. I mean this guy was like 25 years old when I was 19, and he said that I was the only time he got to leave the hospital. He said before me, he would occasionally get to go home, but it was about once a month.
You don't just criticize some one because of the way they look, or because of the way they walk. Could you imagine what that would do to some one who had never left the hospital. Like he was living a life, where the nurses would clap to him as he would be rapping/singing things like Lil Jon songs. These aren't really things you can get away with here, without getting a bad reaction. You just smile, because he's able to walk. You don't want him to be laughed at, because then he'd just be shy, and maybe depressed. I mean it's like a culture shock. I don't see why you would really want to throw him out into the deep end. There are sharks, pimps, and prostitutes out there.
Very imporant information that was left out of the OP.
This guy is 25. He lives in a hosptial.
Now, where does the critizing come from? Was it from the clan leader? Well, in the OP, there's no mention that the clan leader even knew the situation of the guy.
Sounds like to me that you're a hardcore white knight who doesn't actually have anything to white knight agaisnt. People actually don't like when people pity them their whole lives. Cripples may not like being made fun of, and they probably don't get made fun of that often, but they sure as fuck don't like it when people pity them because of their situation. They don't want constant help from others, they want to do shit on their own. A spouse will certainly help them out, but will also understand when the person wants to do something on their own without pity or help from others.
I also wonder, would this guy really enjoy all this pity? "Oh, this is just too sad." People actually don't like making people feel bad. (Unless you have issues.)
Thanks, The guy with cerebral palsy only had 3 hours a week to leave the hospital. My job was to build up his confidence, so that he could feel good about himself, because he's doing something that people would say he could never do. By the end of the summer, before I left, he hit a 40 ball rally with me. If you don't know what cerebral palsy is, it's like this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmaDtbQ1nuA This video tears me up.
Was it really your job? Did you actually get paid for being this guys buddy? Or did you feel that it was your job?
Yes, it really was my job, I did get paid, and he was a friend of mine.
You shouldn't call people white knights. Not sure what kind of people you hang out with, but it's a racist term.
On August 16 2012 10:01 jtype wrote: I guess we both feel that the other is miss-judging the situation. I don't think what you're describing relates to what is outlined in the OP and I don't think that 30 Rock video makes the point you think it does.
It's like you don't want to pop some one's bubble the day he leaves the hospital. You want him to come out to the real world, because he's going to have to leave the hospital some day. I mean this guy was like 25 years old when I was 19, and he said that I was the only time he got to leave the hospital. He said before me, he would occasionally get to go home, but it was about once a month.
You don't just criticize some one because of the way they look, or because of the way they walk. Could you imagine what that would do to some one who had never left the hospital. Like he was living a life, where the nurses would clap to him as he would be rapping/singing things like Lil Jon songs. These aren't really things you can get away with here, without getting a bad reaction. You just smile, because he's able to walk. You don't want him to be laughed at, because then he'd just be shy, and maybe depressed. I mean it's like a culture shock. I don't see why you would really want to throw him out into the deep end. There are sharks, pimps, and prostitutes out there.
Very imporant information that was left out of the OP.
This guy is 25. He lives in a hosptial.
Now, where does the critizing come from? Was it from the clan leader? Well, in the OP, there's no mention that the clan leader even knew the situation of the guy.
Sounds like to me that you're a hardcore white knight who doesn't actually have anything to white knight agaisnt. People actually don't like when people pity them their whole lives. Cripples may not like being made fun of, and they probably don't get made fun of that often, but they sure as fuck don't like it when people pity them because of their situation. They don't want constant help from others, they want to do shit on their own. A spouse will certainly help them out, but will also understand when the person wants to do something on their own without pity or help from others.
I also wonder, would this guy really enjoy all this pity? "Oh, this is just too sad." People actually don't like making people feel bad. (Unless you have issues.)
Thanks, The guy with cerebral palsy only had 3 hours a week to leave the hospital. My job was to build up his confidence, so that he could feel good about himself, because he's doing something that people would say he could never do. By the end of the summer, before I left, he hit a 40 ball rally with me. If you don't know what cerebral palsy is, it's like this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmaDtbQ1nuA This video tears me up.
Was it really your job? Did you actually get paid for being this guys buddy? Or did you feel that it was your job?
Yes, it really was my job, I did get paid, and he was a friend of mine.
You shouldn't call people white knights. Not sure what kind of people you hang out with, but it's a racist term.
On August 16 2012 10:01 jtype wrote: I guess we both feel that the other is miss-judging the situation. I don't think what you're describing relates to what is outlined in the OP and I don't think that 30 Rock video makes the point you think it does.
It's like you don't want to pop some one's bubble the day he leaves the hospital. You want him to come out to the real world, because he's going to have to leave the hospital some day. I mean this guy was like 25 years old when I was 19, and he said that I was the only time he got to leave the hospital. He said before me, he would occasionally get to go home, but it was about once a month.
You don't just criticize some one because of the way they look, or because of the way they walk. Could you imagine what that would do to some one who had never left the hospital. Like he was living a life, where the nurses would clap to him as he would be rapping/singing things like Lil Jon songs. These aren't really things you can get away with here, without getting a bad reaction. You just smile, because he's able to walk. You don't want him to be laughed at, because then he'd just be shy, and maybe depressed. I mean it's like a culture shock. I don't see why you would really want to throw him out into the deep end. There are sharks, pimps, and prostitutes out there.
Very imporant information that was left out of the OP.
This guy is 25. He lives in a hosptial.
Now, where does the critizing come from? Was it from the clan leader? Well, in the OP, there's no mention that the clan leader even knew the situation of the guy.
Sounds like to me that you're a hardcore white knight who doesn't actually have anything to white knight agaisnt. People actually don't like when people pity them their whole lives. Cripples may not like being made fun of, and they probably don't get made fun of that often, but they sure as fuck don't like it when people pity them because of their situation. They don't want constant help from others, they want to do shit on their own. A spouse will certainly help them out, but will also understand when the person wants to do something on their own without pity or help from others.
I also wonder, would this guy really enjoy all this pity? "Oh, this is just too sad." People actually don't like making people feel bad. (Unless you have issues.)
Thanks, The guy with cerebral palsy only had 3 hours a week to leave the hospital. My job was to build up his confidence, so that he could feel good about himself, because he's doing something that people would say he could never do. By the end of the summer, before I left, he hit a 40 ball rally with me. If you don't know what cerebral palsy is, it's like this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmaDtbQ1nuA This video tears me up.
Was it really your job? Did you actually get paid for being this guys buddy? Or did you feel that it was your job?
Yes, it really was my job, I did get paid, and he was a friend of mine.
You shouldn't call people white knights. Not sure what kind of people you hang out with, but it's a racist term.
I used to bully and scam people online. In Guild Wars 1 I remember sitting at some outpost and advertising Drok's Runs. I would make people pay me a "deposit" and then I would immediately kick them and ignore. Gold back then was hard to come by too so I definitely ruined some people's days. I did sorta repent by creating a guild and giving gold to my members since I basically had a chinese farming routine whenever I played. Deck'd out my warrior and when there was nothing left to get, it went straight to the guild.
Well honestly I still do bully people whenever I feel like playing WoW but I don't really mean it, plus people usually fight back and its more fun (when people fight back its not bullying right?). But there have been times when I've seen people just shut up and log off the game, which leads me to believe that I bullied some =(. If anyone shut off their computer and looked at themselves in the mirror to re-evaluate their lives because of the shit I said then I would feel pretty damn bad.
On August 20 2012 23:18 Snuggles wrote: I used to bully and scam people online. In Guild Wars 1 I remember sitting at some outpost and advertising Drok's Runs. I would make people pay me a "deposit" and then I would immediately kick them and ignore. Gold back then was hard to come by too so I definitely ruined some people's days. I did sorta repent by creating a guild and giving gold to my members since I basically had a chinese farming routine whenever I played. Deck'd out my warrior and when there was nothing left to get, it went straight to the guild.
Well honestly I still do bully people whenever I feel like playing WoW but I don't really mean it, plus people usually fight back and its more fun (when people fight back its not bullying right?). But there have been times when I've seen people just shut up and log off the game, which leads me to believe that I bullied some =(. If anyone shut off their computer and looked at themselves in the mirror to re-evaluate their lives because of the shit I said then I would feel pretty damn bad.
Words do hurt people. Even though they may seem like a joke to you, and you expect them to seem like a joke to some one else. They don't always seem like a joke.
Just try to be nicer, and you'll find a lot more people wanting to be your friend.
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