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FenrirSC
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Sweden31 Posts
August 01 2012 00:00 GMT
#1
I haven't been playing as much as my goal has been these last few days. The goal of 5 games a day that is.

However I excuse myself with the fact that when I have been playing I've mostly played more than 5 games. Not today though. Today, I could only fit in 2 games.

However, it seems as though I'm improving still. I'm beating gold and platinum players, me being in silver. I have also started utilizing macrohatches more as well as spinecrawlers. I have still not gotten it in to my head that I need a lot of spinecrawlers in the lategame.

I have been playing a lot of ZvZ on ladder since there are a lot of zergs it seems. Everyone always complain about the matchup but I don't really see why. I find it really enjoyable and it's all about making the right decisions at the riught times rather then just being a cointoss.
Both early- and lategame I find really interesting. Earlygame seems to be a lot of control if there is earlygame agression, I have lousy control but seem to do okay anyways by targeting down banelings with fewer banelings.

I try to stay away from the earlygame since I feel it's slightly more random and if you slip up just with a single mouseclick you can lose. That's why I just macr up by droning until about the seven minute mark when I build double evo, a roach warren and Lair. From there I go in to infestor and ultra.

The thing about the mid/lategame is that a lot of zergs seem to go muta. which I don't mind since I seem to always win against players going muta. Just build a bunch of spores and counterattack. I might lose a base but then I make sure that he loses at least one base. Eventually my infestors pop and I'm able to repel the mutas as well and from there it's just a win.

Things I need to work on are taking a third in ZvZ's as well as scouting so I can find out if my opponent really is going muta or not. I need to work on my scouting in all matchups.

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YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
August 01 2012 00:26 GMT
#2
zvz is a fun, dynamic matchup. its underappreciated!
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
FenrirSC
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Sweden31 Posts
August 01 2012 00:28 GMT
#3
Indeed! If this is th way the ladder looks, I could definitely live whith it.
ParkwayDrive
Profile Joined July 2011
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 02:20:56
August 01 2012 02:19 GMT
#4
personally ive thought zvz to be the best and most exciting matchup since release. i could watch ling/bane micro for hours. mutas now becoming more strategical instead of all or nothing. muta splitting vs infestors? yes please.

there was a dull period in the matchup when people werent comfortable going up to hive and would just sit on roach/festor all game. that kind of sucked but now that hive is in the picture the matchup is totally badass again. the decision of what to use festor energy on in the late game when broods/ultras are out for both sides is just so interesting.

and once burrowed festors are more common and multitasked better? once nydus gets figured out? o man the possibilities.
AimlessAmoeba
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada704 Posts
August 01 2012 02:36 GMT
#5
I wish I shared your enthusiasm... ZvZ is something I just can't seem to keep my stress level down during.
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
August 01 2012 03:33 GMT
#6
To me the reason I dislike zvz is that you can be dominating the whole game, and then forget detection, or forget spores, or not get hydras, and lose to something stupid like mass mutas or a few infestors that burrow under your bases. I can completely outplay someone in every way, but forget detection, and that means I lose the game, which means that the best player doesn't have a huge advantage unless they play perfectly.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
ParkwayDrive
Profile Joined July 2011
United States328 Posts
August 01 2012 03:54 GMT
#7
im confused, how is forgetting detetction considered outplaying your opponent?
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