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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
June 24 2012 10:22 GMT
#81
Comcast hasn't done any such thing (forcibly pushing ownership of the equipment on customers). The easiest way for T.O.P. to be sure if he isn't would be to check his bill and look for the modem rental charge. I'm sure it was just miscommunication.

And, ty. The "EvilTeletubby" name is unfortunately a joke name I made when I was 15 or so (I'm 28 now) back in the Diablo 1 and SC days that just sort've stuck. I think it's absolutely ridiculous but there is little I can do about it now.

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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 24 2012 10:39 GMT
#82
On June 24 2012 05:58 fatfail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 05:53 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 24 2012 05:51 fatfail wrote:
On June 24 2012 05:38 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On June 24 2012 05:11 fatfail wrote:
Our internet random dies for a few hours about once per week. ): We have comcast. Whenever we call comcast customer support, they tell us to buy a new modem. So we've bought about 3 modems, before we realized that their customer service is full of shit and was just lying.


And they've NEVER suggested sending a tech out?!? Be completely honest with me please, because I would be very concerned if they didn't. It's not like, they suggested a tech and you guys didn't want to see if there was something else you could do?

Only say that because modems are actually pretty simple, they either work or they don't. No up-and-down stuff. That is 99.99% of the time going to be a signal/RF issue getting to the modem, and requires a technician to fix.


They never have. They make us power cycle, and when it doesn't work, they tell us to buy a new modem. When we tell them we have have bought a million modems, they put us on hold. We are generally on hold so long we hang up.


Yeah that doesn't make sense at all. You need a service call. It should take any rep about 30 seconds to set one up. What area do you live in?


Bay Area, California.


Comcast in the bay area is god awful.

Between like 3 pm and 12 am I get 700 ping; essentially my internet spikes every 2 seconds from being a reasonable (albeit still much slower than normal) speed to 0. Then during nonpeak hours (i.e. after midnight and before 3 pm) it's fine.

Need better bandwidth!
PieceOCake
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States67 Posts
June 24 2012 11:37 GMT
#83
I also have comcast, kind of forced into it. They're the only ones in my area with decent speed, as soon as I have the option of another I will certainly ditch them.

I just had an issue too that I ignored for an week or so not wanting to have to call and deal with them, but I finally did. I feel your pain.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19077 Posts
June 24 2012 11:58 GMT
#84
Well I didn't rewire my house Wednesday night (TV died Thursday) so that's not it. And I live 15 miles from Comcast Mecca so I doubt it's a bad regional infrastructure issue.
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
June 24 2012 14:42 GMT
#85
On June 24 2012 01:24 tofucake wrote:
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On June 24 2012 01:12 itsjustatank wrote:
god help me if I ever move to a place where Comcast has a monopoly

Avoid Philly, Comcast's home town. You can get Verizon FiOS in something like 2% of the city, Verizon DSL in another 10%. Comcast has contracts with almost all of the apartment complexes for exclusivity for internet. Options for TV are typically Comcast or Dish/DirecTV. The burbs are less shitty, but the only high speed internet around here is Comcast.


I grew up outside of Philly, my parents had Comcast but it fucking blew, so many issues and after I started using the net more I was involved in half of the perennial "WTF" customer support calls, which just ended in paperwork and bullshit. When I moved in right outside of the city I figured I was done in to suffer some more but luckily I'm able to get FiOS. But you go down the street a block and the complexes are all supplied by Comcast. It's ridiculous, I don't know a single person who's had a legitimately pleasant experience with Comcast but I'll read through the thread to see if someone hear has been lucky lol.
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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
June 24 2012 15:21 GMT
#86
Story about Comcast: We had a deal where we SHOULD get 1mb/s internet for X amount per month, set rate, can continue as long as we want. Right? Well, I go on speedtest.net and guess what my DL speed is? 300kb/s. >_> Okay, well, I thought maybe it was just something like clogging or too many people or something. My dad swore it was 1mb/s anyway. Finally, I get him to run speedtest.net, comes out a 300kb/s, and we're both like >_> ripoffs. Call Comcast, and the next day, 1mb/s. WTF! That means they COULD AND SHOULD have given us 1mb/s internet, but they were INTENTIONALLY ripping us off! If it were unintentional, that'd be okay. I can understand too many people on at one time, but to be INTENTIONALLY screwing over your customer on a deal is just upsetting and unethical to me. :/

That said, our Comcast internet has been fine ever since, and we do get at least 1mb/s now. It lags like hell when my parents stream Asian shows and shit, but hey, that's understandable. And most of the Starcraft streams run seamlessly, so I'm content.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 17:20:17
June 24 2012 17:18 GMT
#87
On June 25 2012 00:21 ghrur wrote:
Story about Comcast: We had a deal where we SHOULD get 1mb/s internet for X amount per month, set rate, can continue as long as we want. Right? Well, I go on speedtest.net and guess what my DL speed is? 300kb/s. >_> Okay, well, I thought maybe it was just something like clogging or too many people or something. My dad swore it was 1mb/s anyway. Finally, I get him to run speedtest.net, comes out a 300kb/s, and we're both like >_> ripoffs. Call Comcast, and the next day, 1mb/s. WTF! That means they COULD AND SHOULD have given us 1mb/s internet, but they were INTENTIONALLY ripping us off! If it were unintentional, that'd be okay. I can understand too many people on at one time, but to be INTENTIONALLY screwing over your customer on a deal is just upsetting and unethical to me. :/

That said, our Comcast internet has been fine ever since, and we do get at least 1mb/s now. It lags like hell when my parents stream Asian shows and shit, but hey, that's understandable. And most of the Starcraft streams run seamlessly, so I'm content.


Le sigh.

We don't even have bootfiles that go that low. They probably had you power cycle the modem/router or tighten the coax connections and that fixed everything. But thanks for assuming you were "INTENTIONALLY" being ripped off and screwed.

I do like the logic though... because tech support fixed your problem, and quickly too, it was something intentional that we knew about. -_-
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 18:18:30
June 24 2012 18:16 GMT
#88
i've never really had issues with comcast over the years. the only exception is when i moved, it took them 1.5 weeks to send a guy out to connect comcast to my house :/

at both of my houses i always have had stable ping and fairly high speeds, the service has maybe only been down 2 or 3 times in around 6 or 7 years

DeltaX
Profile Joined August 2011
United States287 Posts
June 25 2012 00:06 GMT
#89
My experiences with Comcast have been... Interesting to say the least.

1. The tech who set us up when we got it 10 years ago "sold" my mom the modem for $40.
2. Net did not work right away. Tech came out and after half an hour or so told us our computer had a virus and we had to re-install the OS (he had to call for help as well even). I thought it was BS but after the hour long reinstall it worked >.>
3. Mom finds out that we are getting charged for the modem she "bought". She calls up and finds out the tech had gotten fired the next day and gets refunded her $40.
4. Net was somewhat slow so I decided to streamline all the splitters for the coax coming into the house. Unfortunately I lost track of the original one (old house has like 10 wires in a bundle) and needed another tech to come fix it, he also did a better job than me streamlining it and boosted the signal.
5. 2 or so years ago when they went digital, we find out the original tech had set us up with better service than we were paying for (basic instead of local channels only).


Overall the internet speeds have been pretty good. Our speed had crashed pretty bad 2 years ago or so, but I think this was just network congestion. It got upgraded and now its pretty darn fast (25 Mbit). My biggest complaint is that it costs a ton so I may have to see if I can get a discount sometime, Century link (slow but cheap) moved into our area recently so rates may have come down.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
June 25 2012 00:48 GMT
#90
I'd be leary of some of the installation guys and technicians that come out - there's a fair number of freelance guys that pick up jobs on contract. Some are phenomenal. Some are less so. But I think that's a problem even across the wider spectrum... some are great, some are less so. Interesting tech support related stories...

I once was a telephone tech support representative for a company that contracted with a number of big names (Palm, Dell, Gateway, etc) - there were competing motivations, which is endemic in the telephone support industry. They were paid by volume of calls handled, so as you would imagine there was pressure to keep calls short. This was not an "official" directive, but management was pretty strong in suggesting that if we couldn't solve it in 15 minutes, we should tell them to go download drivers, or install windows, or something, and get them off the phone to call back later. (Hardware issues were not usually that time consuming - restart this, reseat that, that's a fried component, schedule onsite tech, etc.) And I guarantee, the upper management would never cop to this strategy - although there were other call centers that were much more... vigorous in their efforts. (It got to be that we would see the last call in a ticket history, where it was, and then groan because they were notorious for barely trying and then dumping the call.) Things may have improved; this was over 10 years ago.

In my current position, dealing with IT Support (provided of course by a contractor) can be hit and miss. Some are barely competent, and on at least two occasions I had to walk someone through something basic. Like a printer driver installation. In fact, the call went over the tech's allotted time, so he just stayed on remote desktop and dropped the call. After a minute, he said "you can try to figure it out if you want to, have another call". I fixed it (via the magic of his escalated privileges), and said "it's working now". Then I taught the tech how to do it. -_- Apparently printer installation is not something they get a lot of training in.

Then there's our on-site tech contractor. Great guy, generally helpful as long as there's a ticket attached, and actually knows quite a bit. Good guy overall. Shame he has to get called in, then drive 2 hours to fix something. (It's apparently "faster, better, cheaper" than having a dedicated guy locally.)

The people I've talked to with my cable company (Cox) have run the gamut between these various positions. The phone support is okay, although the automated "slap upside yo' cable modem's head" option takes care of most problems. The few times I've had to have a tech out, it's been relatively painless. Except for the one time I had to tell the guy how to hard reset my DVR. But, like I said, there's a variety of people, and not everyone is great at everything. (Example - I can wire a network and program Cisco routers/switches, set up satellite internet, and troubleshoot RF interference from an HF radio, but I can't strip Cat5 and install an RJ45 jack or put a plug on the end of coax.)

Back to the more immediate topic - you might just want to call and say you want to cancel. I've heard that's a great way to get a discount.

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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
June 25 2012 03:17 GMT
#91
@felisconcolori, tell me about it. I can imagine this is true of every industry in the history of the world, but yes, we have reps and techs with varying degrees of personal motivations and knowledge/experience. I've dealt with my fair share of bad apples and things that would make your jaw drop, but overall MOST people (and I think this is true everywhere so it's why I hate to generalize, for any company) are legitimately trying their best and mean well.

I also hate to admit that your last line is absolutely correct. Although it can depend on his current package, and what services he wants to keep and everything. But hey, it never hurts to ask... we might have a promo or some other way to alter his package that works better and saves him some $$$.
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.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 04:09:56
June 25 2012 04:01 GMT
#92
I've tried AT&T, Verizon, and Comcast (in that order) and I'm shocked to see so much for Comcast when AT&T U-Verse (from my experience) is atrocious. From the quality of their internet (ping rather high ~357ms) to their customer support, it was pushed to a point where I relied on myself and the interwebz to solve my issues (using my phone). Luckily I was able to get FiOS in my area and we switched to that. And WOW. I absolutely loved it. I never had consistent hickups (powercycle about once every 2 weeks or so). I had a bad ass ping (5ms). And the speed was just gorgeous for me (15/5). However I moved and was stuck between AT&T and Comcast. I went with Comcast after my horrific experience with AT&T. I had moments where I would receive a very high ping during nights and consistent hickups. However, Comcast's support was actually pretty good in my experience but coming from Verizon FiOS it was really hard to top off the quality I received from FiOS; I can't talk about Verizon's support since I never had to call them. Now the ping wasn't as good as Verizon's (20ms) but download speed was better. The upload speed however was a bit lower than FiOS and I was more about the upload speed than the download speed and I still am since I like streaming and uploading stufff. Plus if I have over 15mbps for downloading, I'm satisfied.

Now this can all be due to the place I reside in (TX).

P.S Typed this up using my phone's data just so I'm not forced to sign a 1year contract with AT&T. I rather wait over a month (now 2 weeks left) when I move to a place that has FiOS available.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
June 25 2012 06:54 GMT
#93
On June 25 2012 02:18 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2012 00:21 ghrur wrote:
Story about Comcast: We had a deal where we SHOULD get 1mb/s internet for X amount per month, set rate, can continue as long as we want. Right? Well, I go on speedtest.net and guess what my DL speed is? 300kb/s. >_> Okay, well, I thought maybe it was just something like clogging or too many people or something. My dad swore it was 1mb/s anyway. Finally, I get him to run speedtest.net, comes out a 300kb/s, and we're both like >_> ripoffs. Call Comcast, and the next day, 1mb/s. WTF! That means they COULD AND SHOULD have given us 1mb/s internet, but they were INTENTIONALLY ripping us off! If it were unintentional, that'd be okay. I can understand too many people on at one time, but to be INTENTIONALLY screwing over your customer on a deal is just upsetting and unethical to me. :/

That said, our Comcast internet has been fine ever since, and we do get at least 1mb/s now. It lags like hell when my parents stream Asian shows and shit, but hey, that's understandable. And most of the Starcraft streams run seamlessly, so I'm content.


Le sigh.

We don't even have bootfiles that go that low. They probably had you power cycle the modem/router or tighten the coax connections and that fixed everything. But thanks for assuming you were "INTENTIONALLY" being ripped off and screwed.

I do like the logic though... because tech support fixed your problem, and quickly too, it was something intentional that we knew about. -_-


Le sigh.

Pretty sure that wasn't the case considering they didn't really have us do anything. And given that my dad's a computer science major, with a master's degree, who works on network development, and has built his own computer before, and understands how the internet works, he would have known if it were something on our end that caused the problem. And I'm quite sure we don't do either of those as we usually power cycle the modem/router when the internet just randomly decides to stop working and our computers can't connect to it at all.

But thanks for assuming I don't know shit and belittling me.
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pb.fcnz
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada101 Posts
June 25 2012 09:46 GMT
#94
Truth be told, ETT, while you're probably an exemplary CSR/Sup, the customer service in the telecom industry is just absolute junk. I've worked at 4 major telecom companies (twice in call-center based CS, twice in on-site sales) and I have never seen such a culture of mediocrity as I have in this business. Only geeks like you and me really understand the product (I mean, this power cycle/buy new modem case that was mentioned earlier doesn't even surprise me), CSRs are some of the most incompetent, un-knowledgeable workforce I've had the opportunity (or misfortune? lol) to work with. Most of my colleagues in call centers were lazy students just trying to get through the day or newly arrived immigrants who couldn't communicate well with customers. The joys of 3rd parties doing the CS or 3rd parties handling SOME of the work but not all, lol. Having to fight with your own staff to get work done properly when I was in sales made me want to plant bombs in some call centers haha! But honestly, I think the whole industry is a friggin mess. I've had the sales director for an 8 million customers market be flabbergasted when I showed him what I had done with my phone (kernel/rom swap on a droid, something easy for any nerd/half-nerd). The execs don't know or care for the products or the tech behind it, and it shows in their business decisions (for example, no company has gotten rid of LG phones around here... Don't know how much you know about cellphones if you deal mostly with cable, but LG has got to be the worst p0s manufacturer of cellphones ever, yet they're some of the most promoted, most sold phones).
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19077 Posts
June 25 2012 14:00 GMT
#95
So...the tech came out. He asked what was wrong and I plugged in the DVR and he was like "Woah...that's........not good." Gee thanks I hadn't figured that out.

Overall though he was pretty good. Ruled out a power surge, checked the outlets/extension cords in my room, checked signal (good news: signal is strong), and said he'd file the damage claims tomorrow morning. Almost definitely won't get direct reimbursement; it's more likely they'll credit my account with whatever amount blah blah whatever better than nothing. Also I got a new DVR.
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Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
June 25 2012 15:23 GMT
#96
Comcast is awesome compared to the clogged up, overused crap that is Optimum Online.

I suffered through that hell for 3 years... worst customer service I've ever seen, consistently lie about their "free offers" and have awful tech support. 90% of the time I ended up fixing my own problems... and let's not even get to how inconsistent the internet service is.

Blind hate gets you nowhere fellas.
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GeNeSiDe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom354 Posts
June 25 2012 16:25 GMT
#97
I have comcast in Venice, FLA and it works alright...speeds about 10/15 DL and 3-5 UL which is not terrible.

Never really noticed any hiccups, i did get a few DC's every once and awhile but you can't help it.

Saying that, It is a cable service and my house there is in a massive golfing community where the average age is about 60, probably not alot of traffic going to my switch to slow me down, whereas for someone who lives in an area with 10-20 people on their street DL'ing movies, games, music, gaming etc. I can see it being different.
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 17:01:49
June 25 2012 16:59 GMT
#98
The telecommunications industry in the US is just awful in general. For customer service, they all basically have a bunch of uninformed, unempowered, lazy idiots screening calls. The challenge is always trying to figure out the fastest way of convincing them to transfer your call to the level above them. That's where the actual customer service people are. It's not totally their fault because there are a lot of computer illiterate people calling tech support and they are trying to screen those people from the ones with actual problems. However, it just makes it a chore to get through them.

I'm currently with AT&T and managed to get a phone number for a more direct line that passes the automated bullshit. It's in an office in St. Louis, I believe, so it has limited hours. It still beats the overseas ones by a mile, though. I also utilize dslreports.com where they have some actual technicians posting. True story, I went to one of their retail stores for help once and the people there are generally knowledgeable and helpful. Unfortunately, even they have problems navigating their own company's red tape. The manager was telling me how much of an idiot the guy he was talking to was.

I played with a large WoW guild once and had people from all sorts of ISPs. The experience is pretty much the same. If you can find a way to grease the wheel somehow, you are going to be way happier with your service. Getting past that first layer is always the toughest.

If there's somebody like ETT here who works for AT&T that I can bug when I have a problem with my net, it would be awesome.
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
June 25 2012 17:27 GMT
#99
Hey I got a Comcast techie working on running some cables through our place right at this moment. He seems like a decent guy, and he fills me in on whatever he's doing and asks where I want the cables to run through. It'll a nice upgrade from DSL @_@.
Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 17:57:02
June 25 2012 17:55 GMT
#100
For the people that complain about comcast, I feel like they have never had to deal with other companies and are just basing their opinions on how they feel versus actual comparison.

I live in the Philly area myself, my parents have had comcast seemingly forever, and I've used it everywhere else I've lived with very little problems. My gf lives in an area with optimum, and it's atrocious. Internet is slower, on demand options for the TV are very sparce.

From what I've heard, Verizon is pretty good with their FiOS deals, but I've some truly nightmarish stories about houses needing to be rewired and all sorts of other issues, but generally once the install was done it was pretty clean.

ATT Uverse seems alright from the few friends I have with this service in other parts of the country, but from those who used to live in my area, they'd still prefer comcast.

Then there's other providers like Time Warner, Cox, Granite, etc. which I've only really had experiences with thanks to working in IT for an insurance company and supporting our work from home employees, but it doesn't seem any different then many of the other providers.

As someone just mentioned above, most people generally have the same experience regardless of provider, and seems like one of those things where if you ask people how they feel about X service, you're gonna get each person's horror story with that provider. However, if you can get a small win for yourself you generally view the company in a better light. When I was living in college, I was somehow able to negotiate a new deal every 6 months with comcast, each time getting more channels and paying the same price each time.
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