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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 23:00:01
June 15 2012 11:27 GMT
#1
Day 1(ish):
I have been stoppign and relasping for some time now.
These were before i found the reddit subforum and i had no desire to stop.
I had some other shit in life to take care of so i couldn't really PMO as often actually....

fuck it. i was gonna write a diary/ keep logs of my progress but here is my story.

it's a story about dopamine abuse and addiction.

I'm a progamer for SC2. I'm 20 years old and i've been struggling with addiction for 2+ years, but i didn't even know it until recently.
I have also been a college drop out for about 2 years now. I occasionally muster up enough willpower to take a few classes each term,
I've dropped them all a couple of times and when i ran out of drops, i would just straight up stop going to class, and fail the course.

i always convinced myself that everything was okay , and that i would just "do better next term"
Im not even sure of how far my gpa has fallen, probably 2.5 or less ?


This is a stark constant to how i started my college career, at 17 years old.
I was a 3.5 GPA Chemical engineering student, hobbies included regular gym , socializing and guitar.
I was at the top of my class and was approached with many scholarships and possible internship programs from my academic advisors.
I was also extremely EXTREMELY cocky and sure of myself.
I had/have a wonderful GF and relationship. Seriously our relationship was fucking perfect back then. We fought probably one time. The fight went something like
"Awww, i guess this is our first fight~~! <3" after a couple of minutes and then we made out for an hour or something.


Also my drive to accomplish things and willpower were VERY high.

However, as for most kids my age i was also INCREDIBLY stupid.

it started out with me taking 18 hours my 2nd semester.
my advisor suggested this to me as well, so i felt okay about it

naturally being in my dorm room studying all the damn time, i started to PMO, a LOT. Now for those of u who don't know
PMO is Porn, masturbation and orgasm. Heres a short article on it if u are interested
http://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/v2lnz/the_reasons_why_porn_makes_us_feel_so_bad_and_the/

Yes i know it sounds really fucking stupid, but let me assure u the addiction and side effects were very real.
Basically, I abused my bodys natural dopamines to temporarily deal with school , at great cost.


This alone started my eventual decline downwards , i saw my grades falling and my motivation fading. My interest numbing and my mind weak.
I become VERY socially anxious and had very very few friends because of it. I was at a great university with a TON of excellent social media but
I just did not give a fuck about any of it.

I struggled for a long time before i finally dropped out. i still tried hard and adapted to getting A's with very little motivation/willpower due to my dopamine abuse but eventually failed

Eventually i had to resort to cheating, out of necessity. I would scout out not only a really smart person, but also a very trusting one. Most asian guys(not females at all) are actually completely fine with cheating, so long as they got their precious A, and they felt i was helping them. Also they’re smart


I would bluff and pretend i knew so much that the other person would be inclined to "check"
their answers with mine on a test, but in actuality i would just copy everything they had, while pretending to agree with everything. I would probably help them with only a couple, and copy / pretend to agree with the rest.

I would know a few things usually, and at first i would still study but eventually i figured out that i didn't need to study at all.
It got to the point where if i wasn't able to cheat, i would have failed.


Another example is that, I figured out pretty easily that there are multiple sections with with tests at varying times.

If i was lucky, i could obtain the test from the previous section and therefore write my essay and short answers beforehand.
Once i was so lazy i just straight up plagiarized an entire wikipedia article, just formatting it to the questions and got an A.

I think one of the worst things ive ever done was fake a death of my family. I had overslept and missed the final, although i had a B in the course.
Naturally i was just offered a replacement exam BUT i couldn't do it because i hadn't studied at all, and there was NO ONE to cheat off of like i usually do
So, if i went and took the test solo i would have definitely failed.
So i manipulated my teacher, giving him a sob story and several reasons why i couldn't take the test.
he refused at first, but i bluffed and said that i would have to drop out of school anyways(ain't karma a bitch), and that i didn't even care about my grade anymore.
He didn't reply , and kept his stance on me coming in to take the final, so i figured at that point i would just fail the course.
Acceptable loss, i thought in my mind already that i would just tell my parents that i overslept( which was true) and missed the final. They would understand

However, unbeknownst to me, he had a very kind heart, and decided to exempt me from the final, and i was pleased to see i had a B in the course when grades were posted.
Im not proud of any of this by any means, but it is what it is
It goes without saying I would skip classes and cheat on every assignment in any way I could think of.


around this time i dropped out of school and took up a progaming lifestyle.
It's an interesting feeling, to let yourself down. I think the way i coped with it was that it was okay if it was just me that i affected , but i refused to let anyone
else down. developing this mentality was one of the few ways that i managed to get back on the right track. But this part of the story is where it got really, really bad.

As it is common with people who abuse PMO and dopamine, i escalated it because i was so heavily addicted , i need MORE. The stronger the orgasm , the more dopamine is released.

To quote an article
when you masturbate to porn often, once a day minimum or spend long times a day watching porn and stimulating yourself, think about hours a day, you'll have a very constant high amount of dopamine rushing through your brain. because your brain always tries to normalize, it will counter this by lowering the amount of dopamine receivers, thus making you need more stimulation to reach the same effect. this is the same as and drug junky using a dopamine based drug like heroine, cocaine, speed ect ect ect.

Yes I spent hours every day looking for my fix(seemed normal enough ). Slowly i discovered better sites, fetishes i never knew i had, was even bi for a while( i am actually completely straight...i think)
I even got into some really REALLY fucked up shit,
and it brings me great pain and a whole lot of embarrassment to say this but, stuff such as rape, torture, snuff, and pedophilia.
it started out as just reading stories about it, mind you extremely erotic stories but yes, just text.
i would read purely for normal fetishes but slowly i became desensitized to the more vulgar and abusive shit in the stories.
this site was called asstr.org and it is the biggest pile of shit i've ever laid my eyes upon, but back then I would read for hours upon hours. And hell I wasn’t going to school at that point , I had all the time in the world.
I joined a site called motherless shortly after being desensitized to reality, and found a bunch of people who were very similar to me at the time.
So naturally i began to think Oh this is just a fucked up fetish, that LOTS of people have. It's okay.
man how i wish i could go back in time and slap my silly ass but you can see clearly where how im a fucking retard kicks in.
I hate myself for all of this but what can u do but try to improve yourself.


However, i found Starcraft II. I had dabbled a bit in LoL for a year before that, i was EzPzLmnSqz for those who might remember me, but eventually the game bored me.

Now starcraft was such an interesting and challenging game that it actually slowly weaned me off of PMO,
because of the sheer amount of time and dedication you are REQUIRED to spend to even be competitively relevant.
Also interestingly enough, being successful as a progamer is a LOT about personality , willpower, mindset , everything. and i slowly improved myself every day, without realizing it.

I eventually got good enough to where i was sponsored to go to events, such as MLG and IPL . They paid for my flights, hotel , gave me the sickest keyboards and gear on the market
But when i was at these lans. I COULD NOT PMO . jesus christ i was literally fiending for it and the first chance i had alone in the hotel room , i would go for it.
The rooms had 6+ people for 2 beds usually, so I literally had to duck out during the event or something.
This lead me on a upward spiral of self improvement and everything was probably gonna get better
And then i found weed.
Oh my lordy did that shit got me horny as fuck and made me even worse. The terrible thing is that i knew it made me worse but i researched it extensively and
literally found that weed was the most harmless shit on the planet, so i felt okay about it , eventually i would start picking up weed by the fucking ounce I’ve probably dropped over a thousand on bud, financed by my prize money from progaming of course.

Also, remember that perfect relationship of sunshine and kisses ? It went straight down the gutter.
This was all delayed because we had a long distance relationship, but eventually when i dropped out of engineering, and came back home and switched majors
we fought constantly and eventually i broke her will and she become very paranoid and insecure.
I even considered cheating on her after all that, and came really close to it but luckily i never have and she found it somewhere in her kind heart to give me another chance.

This is where I started trying to slowly improve myself, I took up going to the gym and trying to improve socially, mind you im still completely clueless about PMO and its effects on me, so im still doing that and progaming.

But finally, i found this subforum on reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/
and became educated on PMO, and the dopamine abuse that goes with it, and everything suddenly clicked.

Anyways, Im glad to say this is Day 3 for me and heres a small log of the changes i've noted since completely stopping PMO.


-Noted depression, ie withdrawal, but quickly overcome
-Still lazy, but my willpower seems to be growing drastically.
-Worked out, noted improvement on cardio machine
-upper back is randomly sore as fuck. probably due to my new developments with guitar
actually without my overload of dopamine i am also more capable of emotions and my senses in general.
Like said above, i can feel pain more , i've also noticed that my eyesight has improved, like I can see better in the dark.
Also, more time spent playing guitar, and things ive been putting off for months
spent like 2 hours cleaning my car, took it for repairs at the shop, rotated tires etc , something i've literally been putting off for months, my brakes were squeaking so loud that u could hear them over my engine.
And of course, Im writing this article

randomly hugged my gf. feelings have grown stronger for her, and i express that i love her more often
i also linked her many articles on how PMO affects relationships negatively
http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/node/79
this enabled her to say she felt often that the only reason we were together was for sex
i apologized profusely, and redoubled my already strong efforts to stop PMO altogether
If you read the article above, you will see that PMO in extreme cases such as my own will actually almost render u incapable of love.
I have to say this is entirely true and i suppose love ( and the chemical it produces- oxytocin, which counteracts the effects of dopamine or w.e, I don’t understand it completely) is literally why i have conquered my dopamine abuse.
I would like to add that I’ve stopped smoking weed as of today, but I don’t bear any ill will against it, but its obviously not for me.
Thanks for reading.

update:
On June 17 2012 07:09 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Just told my dad about everything i've been going through(he didnt know about my school hiatus, or cheating, But he did know about weed)
+ Show Spoiler [storyaboutbeingdisowned] +

JK, he was really supportive and happy that i was improving myself.

i also told him in the end i was able to figure everything out and improve myself was because of how i was raised by him and you shouldve seen his face haha . his face lit up like a christmas tree and started fiddling his hands in happiness
needless to say quitting is gonna be a breeze for me now


http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/
Watch this , if you are interested.
+ Show Spoiler [False, upon further experimentation. P…] +
On June 19 2012 20:15 HeavOnEarth wrote:

I will like to revise , everything in the blog is still true, but it wasnt completely because of dopamine abuse.
It was depression- actually still not entirely sure what brought it on but this definitely contributed
Show nested quote +

he other big problem with porn of course is the intense sense of internal inconsistency it gives you. What they call 'cognitive dissoance' in that maybe you have feminist values, but you get off to something that is really abusive. That is a fast track to stress, depression and helplessness.

Anyways, as i slowly as i got good at guitar(was able to play songs ive dreamed of playing for ages), came back home and was around my family( i missed them a lot, and i was distant from them since my teenage years of rebelZZ), enjoyed IPLs and MLGs because of progaming, so on so forth.
Show nested quote +

chef: What'll make you feel good is when you start looking back at how you spent your time and being ok with it


this is entirely true. i was a little depressed progamer, until it brought me lots of friends , even money, and people actually gave me respect and adoration when i said i was a progamer? Shit definitely lifted me up. But not for the reasons i said in my blog

Of course im no fool, i had 100% had a problem with PMO and weed and i'll avoid them at all costs, and honestly who needs it. I'll drink every now n then at partys and mlgs so forth, but life is better without it.


On June 19 2012 21:08 HeavOnEarth wrote:
I've figured out the reason i suffered depression. When i was in my academy in high school, one of my best friends was involved in a hacking scandal. He changed grades, etc, and eventually the school was required to bring in private detectives to investigate. Being one of his closest friends, naturally i knew everything, and he had even changed some of my grades without me knowing, or at least i just thought he was kidding when he asked me. Nonetheless, i was sent to CAEP(not expelled like he was) for withholding information, and since i was already on academic probation for all the fights i used to get into(my school was like 95% niggers, aside from the academy and they pissed me the fuck off from time to time, id like to add i have a lot of respect for black people, and the ones i've met in university are some of the most hard working and intelligent, book AND street smart individuals i've come across)
Anyways, my academy kicked me out because of the violation i made while already on probation, and i was forced to attend my other high school.

I lost contact with very important friends to me, self esteem, not to mention to reason i got fucked was because OF ME, i TRUSTED the private detective who MANIPULATED me and then tossed me aside like a cheap rag doll. Being a little happy trusting asian that i was, this SHATTERED not only my self esteem , because i handled the situation so poorly, but also my faith and trust in humans.

Letting go of the past was more important to me then i realized. I asked my mom what she thought and she explained, that they just had to make an example out of me, so that NO ONE would try something that this again. I was extremely unfortunate but of course i made the right move in trusting and being honest, because i had done nothing wrong.
Im still extremely skeptical , and i feel its GOOD to be, but at least i don't despise the human race or something like that, haha.



;edit 7-10-12
Actually the above spoiler is Completely TRUE. Chef <3!
Heres my pm i sent to him so u can understand wTF is going on lol

Thanks again.
It's funny because i relapsed with your advice in mind, and tried to moderate myself( ended terribly) , and thus scorned everything you told me. but after a while everything became very very clear.

It was damn hard realizing that porn wasn't the problem, i only deferred to it much like how people suffering from poverty in third world countries do with alcohol, or drugs, ETC. I just hid away from my problems.
But it(quitting porn) did give me a nice boost in terms of mental stability and cured my ED blah blah . Basically quitting porn was a catalyst for change, and i took full advantage of it.

You were the only one who gave me the reality check out of countless , and i really do mean countless hours, days even, of reading comments, blogs on reddit, so forth.

Obviously i still need to quit porn, weed and whatever else , because i fucked myself up over the years. But hell, its about damn time i fixed my life



But this ends my blog updates i believe i've learned all i can from this. Went 2 weeks, relapsed and then day 16 ATM.
I might post a before/after pic and revise this blog and re submit later on in a few months. Thanks for all the support to those who've read all of this mess.

;editover9000;
oh god i lied. i just kicked my gaming addiction*(yea no shit im a pro gamer i have ea gaming addiction LOL ) **
one thing i got from gaming addiction was intense paranoia http://common-phobias.com/Scelero/treatment.htm

but turns out i just funneled that into gym and guitar addiction

http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/15805/1/Addictive-Personality-Disorder.html

ok fuck it MR webMD im gonna go see a therapist or something lol


ah wait. addiction seems to be linked to lower dopamine receptors due to overuse and abuse of dopamine!
"So far the only things that have been reported to increase dopamine receptors are exercise, abstinence from ejaculation, stopping addictions like pornography and fasting.
"

Ah i started porn and obsessive gaming, compulsive lying such things when i was 8. this was the same time i left behind my childhood friends and memories. still remember their faces to this day, the things we did together. so forth


****
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
June 15 2012 11:37 GMT
#2
Whoa.
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
June 15 2012 11:47 GMT
#3
I thoroughly enjoyed reading your blog. I hope you will do well in the future and I hope you will keep us posted on your progress! Best of luck! Hwaiting ~
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
huehuehuehue
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Estonia455 Posts
June 15 2012 11:50 GMT
#4
Wow, pretty sick blog. GL with self-improvement and progaming.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
June 15 2012 11:52 GMT
#5
Some story man, was a good read and I'm in no way in a position to give out advice rather than hope you make it.
In the woods, there lurks..
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
June 15 2012 11:57 GMT
#6
I remember EzPz from LoL. It's crazy to think it's been too years since that summer I was obsessed with it. All I can say is that I think it's good you're going out of your way to improve yourself. Best of luck!
MinimalistSC2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
June 15 2012 11:58 GMT
#7
Had this problem 9th through 11th grade, so glad i broke the habit. I know exactly what you went through. Was depressed and unmotivated. Stopped for a month and im an entirely different person now.
There is no such thing as perfection, only improvement.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
June 15 2012 12:08 GMT
#8
I masturbate and watch porn really frequently and it hasn't really affected me all that much.
maybe it is because I don't feel so negative about it or maybe because it is more like a habit than a "feel horny, must watch porn" mindset?
Not sure but good luck dude!

Be responsible to your own doings, set yourself a bottom line.
For me, I would never miss any assignments even if I miss all the classes. I would never fail to turn up in group assignment meeting and I will try to make sure I am not destroying my groupmates' work

And quit weed
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 12:56:04
June 15 2012 12:15 GMT
#9
Alcohol and Marijauna release Dopamine as well. Actually last time I checked Dopamine is just one of the chemicals our brains use to experience pleasure. Sex, Gambling, Drugs whatever it is, Dopamine probably plays a role. And of course when you depend on high amounts of it frequently your Hedonic Set Point is raised higher and requires more Dopamine to get the same effect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill

Last but not least.

http://www.sa.org/
http://saa-recovery.org/

(^ One of those counts Masturbation)

I am currently attending AA and MA (marijauna anonymous) meetings 7+ times a week, and they have helped me a lot (I haven't taken a mind or mood altering substance in 61 days ^_^, which is the longest I have ever gone since I started using them 8 years ago). Its just nice to know your not alone, and many many many people have experienced the same thing as you and are willing to talk about that openly and honestly. I honestly could not stop using until I started going to these groups and started to be completely honest with other people, that allowed me to be honest with myself.

I was in outpatient treatment for 2 months and relapsing frequently even while being drug tested with the threat of losing my job or being recommended for inpatient. :S

Now I feel pretty good and I am actually dealing with my life one problem at a time, not to mention I actually just get out and do shit. Hiking, rock climbing, trying new foods with friends, reading, biking, making music. I never had time for other people or things when all I cared about was getting high.

Weed is not the most harmless shit on the planet(It is a stimulant, a depressant, and a halucinogen). Kittens, Puppies, and Babies are far less harmless. Weed will bitch slap you like non-other if you let it. I know for a fact that some meth addicts, coke addicts, and herion addicts will admit that weed was harder for them to quit. People that say its not addictive are full of shit. Some people don't have a problem with it, but that doesn't change the fact that many people do. I spent almost 300 hundred dollars a week on it and could not stop on my own, even when I wanted to.

Oh and like I said at the beginning of my post, it releases dopamine, so you never really conquered dopamine abuse (after 3 days! Think about how much longer your going to be alive!). You probably will never "conquer" it, because your brain won't stop making it until you are dead (or you have a disease that stops it from producing). All you can do is know your faults and control yourself.

Anyways, congrats on making positive changes in your life, not trying to be a downer on you. But I felt like I should share part of my experience. Weed made me want to die, I was angry, isolated, and depressed every day and life had no purpose except to work (so that I could afford to spend over 13k a year on Weed) and get high. And getting high was never as fun as the first time.

Some people don't have problems with things like Alchohol, Weed, Sex. For other people it will literally ruin or take their lives away.
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
June 15 2012 12:30 GMT
#10
Thanks for all the comments, they really do help. Also im open to any logical criticism its not a big deal, im sure i have many logical fallacies in my blog post , and have other things in addition to PMO and weed to fix. I also left a lot of boring tidbits out, so it would be more interesting to read.
And i agree weed is very harmful actually. but i've been brainwashed by the people i hang out with to believe otherwise , i have some pretty bad influences on my life , whether they know they are or not

It really depends on your personality type i feel, and i have a very addictive one , as do most progamers

But fucking hell if i don't feel good. Working out has definitely helped a lot as well, with willpower and whatnot.
been going at it strong for 3-4 weeks.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 12:34:18
June 15 2012 12:33 GMT
#11
My solution is everytime I want to fap, I play guitar trying to make songs for my band instead. 9 songs in the last two days. Keep it coming. And yeah I get addicted to everything I touch.

Good luck!
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
June 15 2012 12:53 GMT
#12
Thanks for sharing, gl in the future.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
June 15 2012 12:53 GMT
#13
On June 15 2012 21:30 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Thanks for all the comments, they really do help. Also im open to any logical criticism its not a big deal, im sure i have many logical fallacies in my blog post , and have other things in addition to PMO and weed to fix. I also left a lot of boring tidbits out, so it would be more interesting to read.
And i agree weed is very harmful actually. but i've been brainwashed by the people i hang out with to believe otherwise , i have some pretty bad influences on my life , whether they know they are or not

It really depends on your personality type i feel, and i have a very addictive one , as do most progamers

But fucking hell if i don't feel good. Working out has definitely helped a lot as well, with willpower and whatnot.
been going at it strong for 3-4 weeks.


One of the things a new anonymous friend of mine likes to say is that we don't have a drug problem, we have a drug solution. We use whatever we can so that we can ignore our real problems. 12 step groups are about dealing with those problems once you quit using whatever it was you were using.

Just keep doing what your doing and keep up the good work man! If you ever find you cannot do it alone there are groups of people ready to listen to you in person. I cannot stress enough how awesome it is you were honest in sharing your story with TL : ) 5/5
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
jdsowa
Profile Joined March 2011
405 Posts
June 15 2012 12:56 GMT
#14
Basically you need to stop spending so much time analyzing yourself, and just go out there and be occupied. Your problem is not weed or anything specific--it's simply idleness. The more you reflect on your own neuroses, the more you become enslaved to them. Your day should not be taken up with thoughts like "OK, haven't done such and such for 18h24m now, must stay on track," and instead just go out, get a job, get back in school, play sports, join clubs, etc. Fill up your day from morning to night.
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
June 15 2012 12:57 GMT
#15
HeavOnEarth if you're on a new path, its dumb to stick with people who'll make that harder and only perpetuate the old, destructive path. If your entourage will hurt you and prevent you from progressing, its hard and it'll hurt but you've got to let them go if you really want to be dead to that old life.

Thank you for writing this, thank you for sharing. Beyond reading eye-opening articles and making a few good steps however, it's really important that you commit to this change if you really believe its the right thing. What I'm saying is don't give the enemy ANY FUCKING AMUNITION, don't go into situations where you know you'll be tempted to fall back, and stick to accountability groups that give you a constant reminder and reason to stay clean.

This echos from my own struggles with addictions: when temptation comes, you can have all the knowledge, insights and reasons in the world, but they're for nothing without comitted renewed dedication to breaking that old life.


Thank you very much for writing and sharing this, it's opened my eyes to the fact that my fapping is much more than some little thing to brush under the carpet, and is actually a serious problem that is really limiting my life and potential in many ways. reddit.com/r/nofap here I come, I'll register and start today.
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15328 Posts
June 15 2012 13:01 GMT
#16
I stopped PMO like 3 weeks ago. Judging by my experience shit is going to get rough for you the next 2 weeks.

GL though it's worth it!
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
June 15 2012 13:28 GMT
#17
On June 15 2012 22:01 zatic wrote:
I stopped PMO like 3 weeks ago. Judging by my experience shit is going to get rough for you the next 2 weeks.

GL though it's worth it!

http://www.reuniting.info/download/pdf/0.WITHDRAWAL.pdf
Yah. im preparing for the worst.
Thanks! gl to you as well =]
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 13:35:46
June 15 2012 13:31 GMT
#18
On June 15 2012 21:56 jdsowa wrote:
Basically you need to stop spending so much time analyzing yourself, and just go out there and be occupied. Your problem is not weed or anything specific--it's simply idleness. The more you reflect on your own neuroses, the more you become enslaved to them. Your day should not be taken up with thoughts like "OK, haven't done such and such for 18h24m now, must stay on track," and instead just go out, get a job, get back in school, play sports, join clubs, etc. Fill up your day from morning to night.

Solid advice, but i feel i have plenty to do, inbetween sc2 guitar gym talking to friends and my team on skype , or the random things that i have to do. I never felt it was a problem with just idleness, and i feel analyzing myself was the key to overcoming my addiction
to quote an article

It's amazing what you learn doing this. I think I now fully understand the saying that 'knowledge is power.' Once you know how something works and how it affects you, it's much easier to muster the willpower to make a change if you so wish.

http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/node/79
So i disagree that i should stop analyzing myself, but i definitely agree idleness is terrible. I've been playing some mafia on TL as well. Used to enjoy it very much a few years ago. Just died day 1 as godfather tho so i dunno if ill keep playing LOL
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Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 13:43:33
June 15 2012 13:43 GMT
#19
Are porn and weed really fucking your life up? Really?

I think that you could benefit from speaking to your doctor about this stuff, I'm no expert, but it sounds like there's something else at the root of your problems.

HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
June 15 2012 13:51 GMT
#20
On June 15 2012 22:43 Zorkmid wrote:
Are porn and weed really fucking your life up? Really?

I think that you could benefit from speaking to your doctor about this stuff, I'm no expert, but it sounds like there's something else at the root of your problems.


its extremely embarrassing to admit, but yes. luckily , as many of u can tell by now, im shameless ^_^

off topic, but I've seen a counselor before and it was probably the worst thing. as for doctor i assume the typical Work out and eat healthy and dont do drugs advice would apply? all of which im doing
i guess they could prescribe me something , but im not interested in that

as for root of my problems, i have an addictive personality, i dont believe there is a way to fix who you are, and im happy with the person i am regardless, just not other.. stuff.
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