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50bani
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Romania480 Posts
June 05 2012 14:59 GMT
#1
I don't use Twitter at all(in fact I am not a fan of any social media), but I have discovered what Twitter is for, and now with the Spades scandal I think this is an appropriate time to share.

This is related to a little discussion started in Website Feedback

What if the debate over the map-hacker-edness of Spades happened over Twitter between the most relevant people involved in the SC phenomenon, and not on TL where a million nonmemorables and nonmentionables overcluttered the thread? If there was no post to compile the replies of the other pro players there would be almost no way to follow that discussion.

On Twitter you can have a "thread" where anybody can say anything, but also anybody can choose who to listen to, and who to reply to. So all the relevant people can speak their opinion. We the little ones can filter who we think those people are. And so can they in fact, so as to choose whom it is appropriate to reply to.

We are all entitled to an opinion, but sometimes not all men are equal.

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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 15:26:22
June 05 2012 15:03 GMT
#2
A good idea, but twitter has the big disadvantage of 140 character limit. If there were some place where only pro's could discuss but with the ability to make long, well-thought out posts, that would be great.
memes are a dish best served dank
Ghin
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States2391 Posts
June 05 2012 15:05 GMT
#3
Why do you think that your opinion is important enough to have its own thread?
Legalize drugs and murder.
SirDuke
Profile Joined October 2010
United States239 Posts
June 05 2012 15:56 GMT
#4
On June 06 2012 00:05 Ghin wrote:
Why do you think that your opinion is important enough to have its own thread?


his opinion isn't enough to warrant a thread, which is why he wrote a blog

OT: i agree that would be a grand idea, but i don't think twitter is a good place for it considering the character limit
Wanna turn up the heat?
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
June 05 2012 16:01 GMT
#5
Deference to authority, once again. "I dont know anything so I will hear what the proplayers/police/journalists are saying and I'll pick whichever opinion I like best".

This is not like something that you hear in the evening news, or read in the paper, where you have no access to any of the evidence whatsoever and it's ok for you to be an uneducated person and lazily copy someone's opinion and vehemently defend it from thereon.

This is where the replays are available to you, the unimportant person. Go form your own opinion. You are literally arguing that you should be able to see what "the important players" are saying just so you don't have to strain your brain and think for yourself.
thurst0n
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States611 Posts
June 05 2012 21:58 GMT
#6
On June 06 2012 01:01 Jinsho wrote:
Deference to authority, once again. "I dont know anything so I will hear what the proplayers/police/journalists are saying and I'll pick whichever opinion I like best".

This is not like something that you hear in the evening news, or read in the paper, where you have no access to any of the evidence whatsoever and it's ok for you to be an uneducated person and lazily copy someone's opinion and vehemently defend it from thereon.

This is where the replays are available to you, the unimportant person. Go form your own opinion. You are literally arguing that you should be able to see what "the important players" are saying just so you don't have to strain your brain and think for yourself.

That's not what I read at all. While you make good points regardless. I feel like he's saying that he doesn't want to listen to idiots talking about the subject when they don't even understand what to look for in a replay.

I don't think there is anything wrong in wanting to know what the people you respect think.

I think the pro's opinion carries more weight than mine. I am still going to form my own opinion.
P.S. I'm nub. If you'd like you can follow me @xthurst but its not worth it ill be honest
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
June 05 2012 22:54 GMT
#7
On June 06 2012 01:01 Jinsho wrote:
Deference to authority, once again. "I dont know anything so I will hear what the proplayers/police/journalists are saying and I'll pick whichever opinion I like best".

This is not like something that you hear in the evening news, or read in the paper, where you have no access to any of the evidence whatsoever and it's ok for you to be an uneducated person and lazily copy someone's opinion and vehemently defend it from thereon.

This is where the replays are available to you, the unimportant person. Go form your own opinion. You are literally arguing that you should be able to see what "the important players" are saying just so you don't have to strain your brain and think for yourself.


I don't believe you understand what he was saying.
Look, even if we little guys were experienced in finding maphackers, this is something else entirely.
First of all, what we are looking at. This is a cameralock maphack, so it is a LOT harder to figure out than a lot of other maphacks.
Second of all, the stakes. This may potentially ruin a player's career. Therefore, we need to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt he is guilty.
Third of all, this is a pro. Pros have gamesense and strategic knowledge that almost makes it seem like they maphack. A lot of people sit on their lofty observer chair and critique pro's decisions, little realizing that, aside from that one mistake they point out, the pro was playing the game nearly PERFECTLY, even better than you could have with full map vision. We need people who know their shit to determine what a genius can and cannot do in this game.
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