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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
May 09 2012 01:07 GMT
#21
Sucks to be asian. Take solace in the fact, after high school, your grades won't mean shit.
Rillanon.au
DN.rSquar3d
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines50 Posts
May 09 2012 01:21 GMT
#22
I'm actually in a similar situation; fucked up in Math11 (that's College Algebra) the first take. Got an ass whupping for that around 2 years ago.

Today, I'm still not excelling that much in terms of my grades (but that's compared to those from our school, UP), but I find other ways to make my dad proud. Right now, I'm posting this from work, and whatever income comes from this will go to my tuition fee for the next semester.

What I really want to say is, grades aren't everything. Even if your grades aren't really huge, if you've got a good course and a good thesis, and you apply for a job that is related to your course/thesis, you will get hired nine times out of ten more than the scrubs with high grades but stupid theses.

Or, find other ways to make your dad proud. As for me, I did that by showing him I can be responsible and work hard. I'm known as a slacker, waking up 10AM even when I have classes; now, I wake up 7:30AM to report to work by 8:30AM, then when I get home I help him with some work. That simple. Find something that might make your dad proud (and you want to do) besides grades, and just do it. Instill it into your habit, give it attention.

But still. That's no excuse to flunk tests. It's also about mind-setting and studying. That's how I got through my second take of Math11; I simply thought I will get 1.0 in the next exam; even if I didn't, I would just tell myself I can do it the next exam, and study to that end. While I didn't get 1.0 as my final grade, I surprised myself by getting a 2.0, something very far from my initial expected grade of 3.0.

In a nutshell: study, think positively, and if it doesn't pan out, don't give up. And look for something else that can make your dad proud.
"I hope I will win, I think I will win, I will win." - Stephano
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 01:27:11
May 09 2012 01:25 GMT
#23
On May 09 2012 09:53 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 09:46 beetlelisk wrote:
On May 09 2012 09:40 Dfgj wrote:
On May 09 2012 09:34 beetlelisk wrote:
Have you ever thought about private lessons?

This is an option. Tutoring is a pretty big business in Singapore.

You could tell your parents you need help with the topic and ask them to pay for your tutoring. If they care about your grades as a priority (which seems to be the case), they might like the idea.

I would even say they are responsible for the bad grades more than OP because they haven't done it earlier.
I'm going to get my kids (when I have them) a tutor once they start getting Bs no matter the grade, assuming I can't help them myself.

Good luck OP.

Disagree. There's no better way to make a student hate a subject than forcing them into tutoring.

On May 09 2012 09:56 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 09:53 Dfgj wrote:
On May 09 2012 09:46 beetlelisk wrote:
On May 09 2012 09:40 Dfgj wrote:
On May 09 2012 09:34 beetlelisk wrote:
Have you ever thought about private lessons?

This is an option. Tutoring is a pretty big business in Singapore.

You could tell your parents you need help with the topic and ask them to pay for your tutoring. If they care about your grades as a priority (which seems to be the case), they might like the idea.

I would even say they are responsible for the bad grades more than OP because they haven't done it earlier.
I'm going to get my kids (when I have them) a tutor once they start getting Bs no matter the grade, assuming I can't help them myself.

Good luck OP.

Disagree. There's no better way to make a student hate a subject then force them into tutoring.


And no better way to make a tutor hate his life. Take it from me.

edit: I really need to find a way to institute a surly child surcharge, but that's a tricky one to implement

Thank you for your input, I'll keep it in mind but look I mean exactly what I wrote - with my own kid I'm not going to wait until situation deteriorates further and the kid starts to hate the subject, I'm going to take action once Bs start to appear or the teacher at school is a fucking retarded asshole. Before my kid starts to hate the subject. And if he does then I'll pay the tutor more to change it. I'm a man of my word.
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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
May 09 2012 01:31 GMT
#24
It works both ways. Students hate a subject that they do poorly in, but they also do poorly in subjects they don't like. Taking your kid's personal time and turning it into more school, in a subject they don't care for, will not make them enjoy it, and that can either mean the tutoring will have little effect or lead to them being further disaffected by the subject.

Emphasizing that a B = failure is also not going to fill them with cheer. Nor will blaming the teacher help.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
May 09 2012 01:38 GMT
#25
On May 09 2012 10:31 Dfgj wrote:
It works both ways. Students hate a subject that they do poorly in, but they also do poorly in subjects they don't like. Taking your kid's personal time and turning it into more school, in a subject they don't care for, will not make them enjoy it, and that can either mean the tutoring will have little effect or lead to them being further disaffected by the subject.

Emphasizing that a B = failure is also not going to fill them with cheer. Nor will blaming the teacher help.

I didn't write that B is a failure, what I mean is I'm not going to be satisfied with Bs and the kid will know it from the very beginning and will know he/she can count on me in terms of helping in any way possible instead of "being sad" like OP dad is. What a fucking unhelpful cunt he is. And I didn't mean blaming the teacher neither but bad teachers happen. Depending on my economic situation I may not be able to afford to send my kid to a private school and this means the chance of stumbling on an asshole is higher.
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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
May 09 2012 01:43 GMT
#26
On May 09 2012 10:38 beetlelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 10:31 Dfgj wrote:
It works both ways. Students hate a subject that they do poorly in, but they also do poorly in subjects they don't like. Taking your kid's personal time and turning it into more school, in a subject they don't care for, will not make them enjoy it, and that can either mean the tutoring will have little effect or lead to them being further disaffected by the subject.

Emphasizing that a B = failure is also not going to fill them with cheer. Nor will blaming the teacher help.

I didn't write that B is a failure, what I mean is I'm not going to be satisfied with Bs and the kid will know it from the very beginning and will know he/she can count on me in terms of helping in any way possible instead of "being sad" like OP dad is. What a fucking unhelpful cunt he is. And I didn't mean blaming the teacher neither but bad teachers happen. Depending on my economic situation I may not be able to afford to send my kid to a private school and this means the chance of stumbling on an asshole is higher.

Yeah I'm not satisfied with Bs either but what that translates to is 'Bs are unacceptable' and from there, 'Bs are failure'.

A lot of Singaporean culture gives you the 'grades = worth' mindset, because grades are tied to closely to good education, ability, future job, potential earnings (and money = value here). So it's good you say you'd try to emphasize that you'd be supportive; many Singaporean kids see their weak grades as a personal failing.

idk what kind of advice I can give you Azera with regards to your parents, I don't know them. If you legitimately want to improve at the subject though, look for tutoring and see if you can get remedials from your teachers. Remedials can do a ton because it gives you a chance to have more direct attention from the teacher and fill in blanks you might have, especially useful for math which is largely making sure your methods are sound.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 09 2012 02:00 GMT
#27
You should talk to someone.
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
May 09 2012 02:35 GMT
#28
On May 09 2012 10:43 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 10:38 beetlelisk wrote:
On May 09 2012 10:31 Dfgj wrote:
It works both ways. Students hate a subject that they do poorly in, but they also do poorly in subjects they don't like. Taking your kid's personal time and turning it into more school, in a subject they don't care for, will not make them enjoy it, and that can either mean the tutoring will have little effect or lead to them being further disaffected by the subject.

Emphasizing that a B = failure is also not going to fill them with cheer. Nor will blaming the teacher help.

I didn't write that B is a failure, what I mean is I'm not going to be satisfied with Bs and the kid will know it from the very beginning and will know he/she can count on me in terms of helping in any way possible instead of "being sad" like OP dad is. What a fucking unhelpful cunt he is. And I didn't mean blaming the teacher neither but bad teachers happen. Depending on my economic situation I may not be able to afford to send my kid to a private school and this means the chance of stumbling on an asshole is higher.

Yeah I'm not satisfied with Bs either but what that translates to is 'Bs are unacceptable' and from there, 'Bs are failure'.

A lot of Singaporean culture gives you the 'grades = worth' mindset, because grades are tied to closely to good education, ability, future job, potential earnings (and money = value here). So it's good you say you'd try to emphasize that you'd be supportive; many Singaporean kids see their weak grades as a personal failing.

idk what kind of advice I can give you Azera with regards to your parents, I don't know them. If you legitimately want to improve at the subject though, look for tutoring and see if you can get remedials from your teachers. Remedials can do a ton because it gives you a chance to have more direct attention from the teacher and fill in blanks you might have, especially useful for math which is largely making sure your methods are sound.

Pretty much. The only advice I can give for math is to practice a shit ton. I tutored a sec 3 kid, and boosted his A Maths grades from D7 to A1/A2. That's mostly because I forced him to practice, when he would be goofing off otherwise.
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-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
May 09 2012 07:01 GMT
#29
On May 09 2012 09:46 beetlelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 09:40 Dfgj wrote:
On May 09 2012 09:34 beetlelisk wrote:
Have you ever thought about private lessons?

This is an option. Tutoring is a pretty big business in Singapore.

You could tell your parents you need help with the topic and ask them to pay for your tutoring. If they care about your grades as a priority (which seems to be the case), they might like the idea.

I would even say they are responsible for the bad grades more than OP because they haven't done it earlier.
I'm going to get my kids (when I have them) a tutor once they start getting Bs no matter the grade, assuming I can't help them myself.

Good luck OP.


If your kid is getting Bs, it's not because he doesn't get it. It's because he does get it and he doesn't care.
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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
May 09 2012 17:44 GMT
#30
so how'd you do on the exam?
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
May 09 2012 18:45 GMT
#31
On May 09 2012 07:39 .Sic. wrote:
you're gonna fuck up if you are working hard just to please others. find your own reasons to study. set your own realistic goals and take pride if you achieve them. if not, figure out why you couldn't achieve your goal (were your standards unrealistically high, or did you just not work hard enough) and then try again. if you cant do this, you wont last in the long run.

Very good advice, one that I would give to a lot of teenagers myself.

If you're studying to please others (usually parents), then you won't last long. This is especially true in university - a LOT of those Asian kids that went into life sciences / business / engineering just to please their parents basically dropped out, switched majors, or took several years (of repeating courses and wasting money) to find their own motivations.

No how smart and talented you are, there will be times that studies will hit you hard and heavy, and you'll be faced with enormous amount of stress and pressure. If what you're studying was for someone else, that's the moment that your mind snaps, and you say "fuck this", and drop out / fail / switch / whatever. Only those that study for their own good, their own ambitions and goals - those people will be able to endure those tough times through persistence, self-control, and determination.

Do it for your own good, not to please your parents.
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metbull
Profile Joined April 2011
United States404 Posts
May 14 2012 19:03 GMT
#32
I just took my Stats final an hour ago. Pretty sure I'll end up with an A in the class. I hate math, but I've always been decent at it. How? I practice. Or at least, from an early age, I was made to practice right after school. That was always my first subject to do homework/review after school, nearly everyday. My mum had me do practice probs up until I was in high school. So I had a good math practice ethic pounded into me at an early age.
Do a few practice probs right after that class (because it's fresh in your mind). Then do more practice probs when you are done with school. Immediate review right after class helps retention more than anything (for me at least). And hey, it's my second time in college after 10 years, and I'm rocking a 3.91 GPA (stupid teachers and their stupid A and A-......SIGH)
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 14 2012 23:43 GMT
#33
Err, rude as Seedling was, he has a point. You spelled disappointment wrong, and your use of "my father.... my father" was redundant. And you missed a period at the end of one of your sentences.

Yes, I am nitpicking and being a grammer nutzee. Yes, the point is, that if your TL blog reflects you as a person, you need to try harder. You have 1K posts, so I guess you like and enjoy TL. So, write a good blog to show how you like the community and are willing to share your life with them. There's good advice to be had on TL, and you can solicit it by writing a good blog about your problems. There are a lot of people willing to help you, but they can't do it if you give no details.

Why are you doing bad in school? Is it because you don't try? Is it because you just don't get the material? Is it because you're stressed out about disappointing your father and can't perform? There are a lot of ways to mess up in school.

@Metalmarine: what class are you taking? I've found in college having friends to study with is worth a lot. A lot of my friends dropped pre-med between semesters, so I've been studying alone and it has been going significantly worse, haha.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 15 2012 03:57 GMT
#34
Singapore is probably harder. I don't know.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 04:02:59
May 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#35
On May 09 2012 10:38 beetlelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 10:31 Dfgj wrote:
It works both ways. Students hate a subject that they do poorly in, but they also do poorly in subjects they don't like. Taking your kid's personal time and turning it into more school, in a subject they don't care for, will not make them enjoy it, and that can either mean the tutoring will have little effect or lead to them being further disaffected by the subject.

Emphasizing that a B = failure is also not going to fill them with cheer. Nor will blaming the teacher help.

I didn't write that B is a failure, what I mean is I'm not going to be satisfied with Bs and the kid will know it from the very beginning and will know he/she can count on me in terms of helping in any way possible instead of "being sad" like OP dad is. What a fucking unhelpful cunt he is. And I didn't mean blaming the teacher neither but bad teachers happen. Depending on my economic situation I may not be able to afford to send my kid to a private school and this means the chance of stumbling on an asshole is higher.


Fuck thank god I am not your child, I always feel bad for kids who have super strict parents and have to have A's or they are "disappointed" in them. So disgusting to see I have seen many kids who go "oh I have to study all day because my parents aren't happy if I get below an A, it sucks I can never hang out with friends or anything unless it's summer". Not kidding I never understood why some parents are disappointed with something below an A lol...

In general you are saying B = Failure if you say you aren't going to be satisfied with B's...

As for you OP that sucks and while I don't know to much other then what you said is if you can't do better and he's always disappointed well Idk what advice to give .
When I think of something else, something will go here
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
May 15 2012 04:12 GMT
#36
On May 15 2012 13:00 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 10:38 beetlelisk wrote:
On May 09 2012 10:31 Dfgj wrote:
It works both ways. Students hate a subject that they do poorly in, but they also do poorly in subjects they don't like. Taking your kid's personal time and turning it into more school, in a subject they don't care for, will not make them enjoy it, and that can either mean the tutoring will have little effect or lead to them being further disaffected by the subject.

Emphasizing that a B = failure is also not going to fill them with cheer. Nor will blaming the teacher help.

I didn't write that B is a failure, what I mean is I'm not going to be satisfied with Bs and the kid will know it from the very beginning and will know he/she can count on me in terms of helping in any way possible instead of "being sad" like OP dad is. What a fucking unhelpful cunt he is. And I didn't mean blaming the teacher neither but bad teachers happen. Depending on my economic situation I may not be able to afford to send my kid to a private school and this means the chance of stumbling on an asshole is higher.


Fuck thank god I am not your child, I always feel bad for kids who have super strict parents and have to have A's or they are "disappointed" in them. So disgusting to see I have seen many kids who go "oh I have to study all day because my parents aren't happy if I get below an A, it sucks I can never hang out with friends or anything unless it's summer". Not kidding I never understood why some parents are disappointed with something below an A lol...

In general you are saying B = Failure if you say you aren't going to be satisfied with B's...

As for you OP that sucks and while I don't know to much other then what you said is if you can't do better and he's always disappointed well Idk what advice to give .

Jesus. Who said my kid would have to work all day to get that A? It's simply a work ethic, until high school it's not hard to get good grades at all. There is plenty time left to socialize, do some sports and play computer games, in that order.
Even when you are in college I've seen some posts saying college students are stupid for whining about school and homework, real shit starts once you graduate and get a job.
What I'm saying is I'm not going to deprive my kids of all the good stuff the life offers, perhaps it's you who would have too low standards regarding your own kids?
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 15 2012 16:05 GMT
#37
Eh, my parents always wanted me to get good grades, and I've usually done enough to get A's-- dropped a B and a C in high school, but there's a story behind the C, and a particularly bitchy English teacher with a 94 cutoff but who wouldn't give over a 97 on any assignments behind the B. Eventually, it became more me wanting to do well than them pushing me to it. In college, I feel especially motivated because I (personally, not my parents) am shelling out a lot of money for it.

I consider getting an A to be idea. Introducing A- and B+ to the system complicates it a bit though. I got a B and a B+, or maybe 2 B's this semester-- I'm a bit afraid to check . I'll accept them because I have to, but I'm sure as hell not happy with them. It's more that than thinking OMG B END OF WORLD SOIL FAMILY HONOR.
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Snaiil
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden312 Posts
May 15 2012 16:38 GMT
#38
Despite how much my parents have done for me, I will never ever live my life the way the want me to unless I want to live it like that as well. If that means disappointing them, then that's how it's going to be. I see no point in adjusting my own life according to the expectations of others.
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
May 16 2012 01:38 GMT
#39
I went through this shit, but I put my foot down and even though i knew it sucked for my parents, i pretty much made them accept it because it is who i am annd they dont decide what im going to be good at or what my life is going to be, I do. We had a lot of battles over the years, but suffice to say it was worth it looking back on it about everything too; starcraft, weed, drinking, sex, grades pretty much everything
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Lousy!
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada73 Posts
May 16 2012 15:04 GMT
#40
Tell your dad he should help you meet his expectations by helping you find out why you're bad at school and how to get better. Right now, he's just depressing you to the point where you seem to have given up: "Sigh, I'll just go fail my next math exam and make my dad sad again :'(" (paraphrased). With an attitude like that, you're not going to get anywhere. It's bad parenting on his part.
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