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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
May 08 2012 22:08 GMT
#1
I'm constantly told by my father how much of a disappointment I am by my father. My only.job is to score well in school and I keep fucking it up. He likes to show how sad he is at my failures and I feel bad for being such a bad son

I have an Additional Maths exam in a few hours and I know I'm just gonna bomb it and make him sad again.

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One Student
Profile Joined April 2011
73 Posts
May 08 2012 22:23 GMT
#2
Are you putting some effort in to getting good grades? Please explain your situation more. Is there a reason why you aren't doing good in school? What passes for a good job with your dad?
Depression is what you get for leading a repetitive life.
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
May 08 2012 22:26 GMT
#3
Sad to say, such is life. Good grades aren't everything, but they count for a lot of things. For example, if you want a scholarship to go study in a university abroad, your sponsor will judge you firstly on your grades, then on the interview. Your future employer has no way to know if you have a good work ethic, your productivity, getting along with fellow colleagues etc. How do they do that? They just take the people with the best grades and hope for the best.

You're 15 or 16 (if you're taking A maths) now so you might not yet understand the importance of a good education. To put it simply, your education status is strongly tied to your future salary. Don't fantasize about being one of those billionaires who dropped out of school, opened a business and made it big; it's easier to get struck by lightning while holding a winning TOTO ticket. Your father is right; although being so harsh is probably more demotivational than encouraging.
=Þ
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
May 08 2012 22:26 GMT
#4
Yeah I put in effort but as cliche as it is, its never enough. My dad gave up his paying job at 46 to start his own free clinic.
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.Sic.
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)497 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 22:40:45
May 08 2012 22:39 GMT
#5
you're gonna fuck up if you are working hard just to please others. find your own reasons to study. set your own realistic goals and take pride if you achieve them. if not, figure out why you couldn't achieve your goal (were your standards unrealistically high, or did you just not work hard enough) and then try again. if you cant do this, you wont last in the long run.
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One Student
Profile Joined April 2011
73 Posts
May 08 2012 22:42 GMT
#6
Some people don't have to put in a lot of effort to ace a test, others have to work very hard. If the effort you are putting in is not enough, you put in more. You might have to sacrifice other freedoms to make up for any deficiencies in your abilities with more effort. If you decide to make a commitment to get good grades just realize that results might not come early. You have to weed out the bad study habits that aren't working and find out what does work. It took me three long years to find out what works for me. One quote I like to use is: "A loser can beat a genius with hard work.". Don't give up kiddo, just always look to get better.
Depression is what you get for leading a repetitive life.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
May 08 2012 22:45 GMT
#7
How much effort do you put in? Do you make it a significant and critical part of your day? (Time isn't always the telling factor of effort)
Do you make sure to study the key concepts and practice applying them on randomized questions, without the aid of your books?
Is it just the exams that are getting to you?
SeeDLiNg
Profile Joined January 2010
United States690 Posts
May 08 2012 22:58 GMT
#8
Not to be rude, but I hope you're trying harder in school than you did in that post.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
May 08 2012 23:05 GMT
#9
How can you not mean to be rude? That's rude and you know it.
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Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
May 08 2012 23:53 GMT
#10
On May 09 2012 07:26 Heh_ wrote:
Sad to say, such is life. Good grades aren't everything, but they count for a lot of things. For example, if you want a scholarship to go study in a university abroad, your sponsor will judge you firstly on your grades, then on the interview. Your future employer has no way to know if you have a good work ethic, your productivity, getting along with fellow colleagues etc. How do they do that? They just take the people with the best grades and hope for the best.

You're 15 or 16 (if you're taking A maths) now so you might not yet understand the importance of a good education. To put it simply, your education status is strongly tied to your future salary. Don't fantasize about being one of those billionaires who dropped out of school, opened a business and made it big; it's easier to get struck by lightning while holding a winning TOTO ticket. Your father is right; although being so harsh is probably more demotivational than encouraging.


Is it me or there's some sort of asian stereotype going on?

Maybe in Singapore things work like this, but here in France secondary education is meaningless next to graduate schools, whis you acess through a series of exams. No matter how well you did when you were 10, what they want to see is your ability to perform under stress, on the spot, and your personality.

Not only that, but your hapiness isn't tied to your salary. Being poor sucks, but this doesn't mean that you need to own a Porsche neither.


All in all, disappointing your father can be a traumatizing experience, but you should know that there will always be a place for you, and that society isn't really a ladder with a predeterminated universal hierarchy.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
May 09 2012 00:13 GMT
#11
On May 09 2012 08:53 Kukaracha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 07:26 Heh_ wrote:
Sad to say, such is life. Good grades aren't everything, but they count for a lot of things. For example, if you want a scholarship to go study in a university abroad, your sponsor will judge you firstly on your grades, then on the interview. Your future employer has no way to know if you have a good work ethic, your productivity, getting along with fellow colleagues etc. How do they do that? They just take the people with the best grades and hope for the best.

You're 15 or 16 (if you're taking A maths) now so you might not yet understand the importance of a good education. To put it simply, your education status is strongly tied to your future salary. Don't fantasize about being one of those billionaires who dropped out of school, opened a business and made it big; it's easier to get struck by lightning while holding a winning TOTO ticket. Your father is right; although being so harsh is probably more demotivational than encouraging.


Is it me or there's some sort of asian stereotype going on?

Maybe in Singapore things work like this, but here in France secondary education is meaningless next to graduate schools, whis you acess through a series of exams. No matter how well you did when you were 10, what they want to see is your ability to perform under stress, on the spot, and your personality.

Not only that, but your hapiness isn't tied to your salary. Being poor sucks, but this doesn't mean that you need to own a Porsche neither.


All in all, disappointing your father can be a traumatizing experience, but you should know that there will always be a place for you, and that society isn't really a ladder with a predeterminated universal hierarchy.

Allow me to describe the Singapore system for you.

You join a primary school (grades 1-6). At the end, you take your PSLE (primary school leaving exam). This exam determines what secondary school (grades 7-10) you are allowed to apply to. At the end of secondary school, you take your O-levels, the results of which determine which junior college (grades 11-12) you're allowed to apply to. Then, you take your A-levels afterwards, the grades of which are all singaporean universities care about in application.

You'll note that fucking up at any stage potentially wrecks you outright because doing poorly on the PSLE puts you in a weaker secondary school -> you are less likely to do well on your O-level, and so on.

What's more likely here is not the system but the culture. Singaporeans (specifically, parents and teachers) have the mentality that good grades = good job = good life, and this is drilled into the students to make them think each and every grade matters. Is it accurate? Well, somewhat - PSLE/Olevel/Alevels have lasting effects on your education and what you're allowed to pursue. Does Azera's random math exam count? Probably not.
MetalMarine
Profile Joined June 2007
United States1559 Posts
May 09 2012 00:33 GMT
#12
I study pretty damn hard too and i might not be passing one of my classes this semester (i have never failed a class in college before)... Someone earlier says it's the study method. What are some study methods/habits do you guys recommend? The professor tells us to read the chapter, write our own notes, then do the homework. I do this and it doesn't help me that much... ANY tips of studying is appreciated (might probably help the OP too)
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
May 09 2012 00:34 GMT
#13
Have you ever thought about private lessons?
wwww
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 00:36:41
May 09 2012 00:36 GMT
#14
Buddy, this is when you start learning bad words and listening to loud music. From this and what you've said before your dad sounds like a self-obsessed type a douchebag.

Don't put up with this emotionally abusive bullshit. It's time to have a nice big fight with dad. Welcome to adolescence.
shikata ga nai
MetalMarine
Profile Joined June 2007
United States1559 Posts
May 09 2012 00:39 GMT
#15
On May 09 2012 09:34 beetlelisk wrote:
Have you ever thought about private lessons?


They are expensive and i am poor =(
RoboBob
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States798 Posts
May 09 2012 00:39 GMT
#16
I always recommend that people pursue their own happiness. Doing something just to please your parents is a lose-lose situation. If you fail in the task, then not only do you need to deal with the emotionally suckiness that comes with the fail, but then you've also got to deal with the guilt+shame of failing your parents. And even if you succeed in the task, then it will only raise your parent's expectations higher. Which in the future will result in you doing more and more things which make you miserable.

I know a lot of people who were strongarmed by their parents to become a doctor, a lawyer, a banker...and their lives are utterly miserable because they hate their job. I think too many people pay lip service to the phrase "money can't buy happiness", when it's actually really true.

Now, I'm not saying that you should indulge in arrogant hedonism and ONLY do the things that you want to do. Everybody makes sacrifices doing things that they don't want to do in order to do things that they want to do. But there needs to be a balance.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
May 09 2012 00:40 GMT
#17
On May 09 2012 09:34 beetlelisk wrote:
Have you ever thought about private lessons?

This is an option. Tutoring is a pretty big business in Singapore.

You could tell your parents you need help with the topic and ask them to pay for your tutoring. If they care about your grades as a priority (which seems to be the case), they might like the idea.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 00:47:43
May 09 2012 00:46 GMT
#18
On May 09 2012 09:40 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 09:34 beetlelisk wrote:
Have you ever thought about private lessons?

This is an option. Tutoring is a pretty big business in Singapore.

You could tell your parents you need help with the topic and ask them to pay for your tutoring. If they care about your grades as a priority (which seems to be the case), they might like the idea.

I would even say they are responsible for the bad grades more than OP because they haven't done it earlier.
I'm going to get my kids (when I have them) a tutor once they start getting Bs no matter the grade, assuming I can't help them myself.

Good luck OP.
wwww
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 01:00:24
May 09 2012 00:53 GMT
#19
On May 09 2012 09:46 beetlelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 09:40 Dfgj wrote:
On May 09 2012 09:34 beetlelisk wrote:
Have you ever thought about private lessons?

This is an option. Tutoring is a pretty big business in Singapore.

You could tell your parents you need help with the topic and ask them to pay for your tutoring. If they care about your grades as a priority (which seems to be the case), they might like the idea.

I would even say they are responsible for the bad grades more than OP because they haven't done it earlier.
I'm going to get my kids (when I have them) a tutor once they start getting Bs no matter the grade, assuming I can't help them myself.

Good luck OP.

Disagree. There's no better way to make a student hate a subject than forcing them into tutoring.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 00:57:35
May 09 2012 00:56 GMT
#20
On May 09 2012 09:53 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 09:46 beetlelisk wrote:
On May 09 2012 09:40 Dfgj wrote:
On May 09 2012 09:34 beetlelisk wrote:
Have you ever thought about private lessons?

This is an option. Tutoring is a pretty big business in Singapore.

You could tell your parents you need help with the topic and ask them to pay for your tutoring. If they care about your grades as a priority (which seems to be the case), they might like the idea.

I would even say they are responsible for the bad grades more than OP because they haven't done it earlier.
I'm going to get my kids (when I have them) a tutor once they start getting Bs no matter the grade, assuming I can't help them myself.

Good luck OP.

Disagree. There's no better way to make a student hate a subject then force them into tutoring.


And no better way to make a tutor hate his life. Take it from me.

edit: I really need to find a way to institute a surly child surcharge, but that's a tricky one to implement
shikata ga nai
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