Tilting so hard

On April 22 2012 08:52 Pulimuli wrote:
Been playing like shit the entire day, just got worse and worse, im having trouble with TvZ, im losing the majority of my games to much lower ranked players.

And since TvZ is so common on the ladder nowadays having a streak of 4-5 TvZ games isnt unusal and it just makes me angry as fuck, and thus making me play worse in my TvT and TvP which im usually pretty solid in.

I think i need to take a break again from this game because getting this worked up over losing ladder games isnt good -.-

On April 22 2012 19:25 sieksdekciw wrote:

You must realize that from one point on, every zerg in ladder can and will beat you if left alone. You can't ever EVER outmacro a zerg as terran. The only difference between lower ranked masters zergs and higher/gm is how they respond to pressure, missing injects, floating minerals, etc. Let's face it, the zerg can stay 15 minutes and defend your pressure, then if he did not make any major mistakes, steamroll you.

It is on you to act, pressuring, expanding and not mismicroing and mismacroing and gain an advantage before the 18 minute mark cause if you don't, you, as a rule of thumb, have lost the game. Think of TvZ as a race against the clock and another player where the other player has a huge unfair advantage and you have to take this advantage tiny part by tiny part.

Trying to do weird stuffs like 3 cc and then staying defensive is not gonna help you since even if you go 10 command centers, you can't catch up with an unpressured zerg who is just able to produce 16 workers per cycle out of two bases if he feels unthreatened.

Since your problem seems to be against much lower ranked players, in theory, they should be much worse than you. What you have to do is pressure them so they miss injects, overmake lings or drones (in which case you should kill them outright). I can tell you in lower masters there are some zergs making 16 drones blindly while having a single spine and 3 queens for defense. It is up to you to crush them like the sneaky bugs that they are. Cause if you don't do it in time, even puny little players will defeat you.

On April 22 2012 23:19 thehepp wrote:


No, just no. It is entirely possible to play a macro game against zerg without harrassing. Is it as powerful? Maybe not, but still possible.

On April 22 2012 19:25 sieksdekciw wrote:

You must realize that from one point on, every zerg in ladder can and will beat you if left alone. You can't ever EVER outmacro a zerg as terran. The only difference between lower ranked masters zergs and higher/gm is how they respond to pressure, missing injects, floating minerals, etc. Let's face it, the zerg can stay 15 minutes and defend your pressure, then if he did not make any major mistakes, steamroll you.

It is on you to act, pressuring, expanding and not mismicroing and mismacroing and gain an advantage before the 18 minute mark cause if you don't, you, as a rule of thumb, have lost the game. Think of TvZ as a race against the clock and another player where the other player has a huge unfair advantage and you have to take this advantage tiny part by tiny part.

Trying to do weird stuffs like 3 cc and then staying defensive is not gonna help you since even if you go 10 command centers, you can't catch up with an unpressured zerg who is just able to produce 16 workers per cycle out of two bases if he feels unthreatened.

Since your problem seems to be against much lower ranked players, in theory, they should be much worse than you. What you have to do is pressure them so they miss injects, overmake lings or drones (in which case you should kill them outright). I can tell you in lower masters there are some zergs making 16 drones blindly while having a single spine and 3 queens for defense. It is up to you to crush them like the sneaky bugs that they are. Cause if you don't do it in time, even puny little players will defeat you.

On April 23 2012 05:29 Pulimuli wrote:


I harass like crazy in TvZ, i play insanely aggressive.

Anyhow im taking a couple of days break to calm down. Went from rank 2 masters at 800 points to like 580 points yesterday and i felt like smashing stuff, which isnt good :b

On April 23 2012 01:04 sieksdekciw wrote:


No. Just no.
What you are saying is like : It is entirely possible to jump off a bridge without parachute. Is it as safe as jumping with a parachute? Maybe not, but still possible...

While I entirely recognize that you have the right to play stupidly, don't try to force your opinion (which is wrong) over the common opinion, which is:

Terran HAS to pressure the zerg/toss.
Macro game or not, you have to pressure the zerg. You have to. That's it.

Dude. Listen up. I am not denying the fact that you can play a macro game against a zerg. However, during this macro game you have to be the one that is doing the damage, that is harrassing, etc. If you don't make the zerg spend some larvae on units but on drones, he will have huge advantage compared to you.

So. If you play passively a macro game against a zerg, even if you play greedily:

-> He will have vision on the whole map
-> He will have 1.5 times your income
-> He will have the possibility to insta switch tech after an engagement -> Broodlords to ultras to broodlords again, mass zerglings running everywhere.

If you play aggressively a macro game against a zerg

-> He will have less creep spread
-> He will have slightly higher income than you
-> He will not have a huge banked up amount of resources since you made him use larvae on units not on drones