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Darmok, Lou Ferrigno, and BitByBit

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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 07:29:19
April 17 2012 07:22 GMT
#1

Darmok, Lou Ferrigno, and BitByBit




Yeah, this title is gonna make sense.

I was watching Star Trek: The Next Generation (nerd factor 3!), and came to an episode called "Darmok" about a First Contact. To provide context, a brief explanation of Star Trek: Star Trek is a sci-fi series set in the far future. Humanity has spread to the stars and found it is not alone. It has allies and enemies, and the galaxy is quite unexplored. Faster-than-light travel is possible. The series follows the adventures of the crew of the Starship the Enterprise. It travels for long periods of time without returning to a base, and is both a scientific and military vessel. One of its chief goals is to contact new cultures in a peaceful fashion, an event fittingly named First Contact.

In this episode, the Enterpise comes in contact with a new species. Using a universal translation device, the captain (Picard) is able to understand the basic grammar and words of any language. However, this new species, the Tamarians, have a language that is largely composed of proper nouns. They repeat a phrase "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra" (grammatical conjunctions and prepositions translating more easily than proper nouns), much to the confusion of the protagonists.



As the episode progresses, the Tamarian captain goes to extreme lengths to try to communicate with Picard, eventually teleporting the two of them into a dangerous situation to provide a common set of experiences to explain his language. During the entirety of the episode, my suspension of disbelief became more and more shaky. It seemed impossible that someone could communicate any nuanced concept using such an obtuse language. How could such a ridiculous series of proper nouns be used to convey the commands needed to operate a starship? The episode itself ends in an excellent fashion, but this doubt lingered with me for a while after watching it. Typically, Star Trek has its good and its bad episodes, but at the very least they are internally consistent and somewhat plausible.

After further reflection, though, I realized that this wasn't so unreasonable a way of communicating. I think of the most notorious GSL Terran to never make a Ro8. The Terran who will be remembered forever, whose handle itself has sublimated to a meaning close like unto Maynard. The legendary Prime Terran, the one, the only, the BitByBit. His handle has gained a meaning synonymous with the marine/scv allins for which he was famous. If you are listening to a GSL cast (or hell, any sc2 cast), and you JUST tuned in, if you hear a caster shout "BIT BY BIIIIIIIIIIIIIT1!!!!" you suddenly know exactly what's happening. It's a TvZ. SCVs just got pulled. Shit just got real. It's the quickest way of saying "the terran player is all in with marines and scvs"-- and is cemented into our collective consciousness, an evocative proper noun that tells the story in its meaning.

It became even more clear to me that proper nouns can carry some pretty rad meanings when I was reminded of a webcomic I read (nerd factor 4!) about... dungeons and dragons... (nerd factor 5!) called Order of the Stick. In it, a character's off-hand remark talks about the protagonist getting mad enough to "go all Lou Ferrigno"-- a reference I immediately understood. Something "going all Lou Ferrigno" would certainly be entirely opaque to someone unfamiliar with the 80's tv series The Incredible Hulk, to me it perfectly described the actions of the character, as well as his motivations. It could have been said in another way, but this got the point across in an elegant fashion.

I still wonder if an entire language could be constructed out of such ideas (though it seems clear that the Tamarians have connecting phrases), especially if the common culture of billions is to be connected enough for this to make sense. That being said, even if the whole doesn't make sense, the parts themselves do-- we use them in our own lives. Chinese characters themselves are pictograms, which isn't so unreasonable an analogy to proper nouns representing abstract concepts, and metaphor taking the place of straightforward communication. They ARE supposed to be alien, after all.

And so I'm able to justify the language of the Tamarians, bit by bit.

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Vod.kaholic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1052 Posts
April 17 2012 07:27 GMT
#2
Huh, that's a pretty interesting concept for the episode to explore. If they can express so many ideas with proper nouns, isn't it reasonable to think that a society could begin expressing itself entirely through memes and shorthand writing?
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AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2577 Posts
April 17 2012 08:24 GMT
#3
The Tamarians always bugged me, especially because Darmok is just a phenomenal episode and I wish my brain wouldn't nitpick stuff like this, but:

- The Universal Translator can figure out the precise meaning of any word in any language, even of languages it's never been exposed to. It is even so smart that it can correctly translate the words that make up the referents of the Tamarian languages, even though they make no sense without their cultural context, but it can't figure out what they mean?

- A language that consists only of references to universally known stories just doesn't make any sense. How do you convey the stories? How do you learn the meaning of the words within the references? If the language consists only of set phrases that refer to mythological events, then those phrases are the building blocks of the language, and they lose any metaphoric meaning. In English, for example, you can refer to someone's "Waterloo", and many people might understand the word's meaning without actually being familiar with the history of Napoleon.

I have to admit that I've spent a lot of time thinking about this. I am such a nerd...
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 17 2012 08:51 GMT
#4
great 10/10 blzinghand troll blog

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seriously though, pretty cool observation and nice connection ;D
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
April 17 2012 09:42 GMT
#5
Temba, his arms wide.
Such flammable little insects!
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1543 Posts
April 17 2012 09:51 GMT
#6
I just clicked on this cause Darmok was in the title, I assumed it was someone's handle rather than the TNG episode so I was pleasantly surprised! Season 5 of TNG was so strong. Interesting blog anyway, I often throw cultural references (usually Simpsons or film quotes) into my speech and unless someone is familiar with it I often have to rephrase, never made the connection that I may as well have been speaking Tamarian.

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Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
April 17 2012 10:37 GMT
#7
Naniwa and Chill at TSL.

HuK, his void rays hallucinated.

IdrA, his middle finger stretched.

Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
April 17 2012 12:44 GMT
#8
On April 17 2012 19:37 Jinsho wrote:
Naniwa and Chill at TSL.

HuK, his void rays hallucinated.

IdrA, his middle finger stretched.



Win.

Good OP, I always did think that was one of the better episodes.
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UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
April 17 2012 15:00 GMT
#9
Nice read Cultural context is fascinating as a subject, as is Star Trek TNG :D
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