• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 23:36
CET 05:36
KST 13:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win
Tourneys
$100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1011 users

Game making progress -part 12-

Blogs > shannn
Post a Reply
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
April 09 2012 16:42 GMT
#1
Hello everyone!

It's time for a new update on my game making progress with lots of screenshots !!!
Leave some feedback or a question about my game.

Previous blogs about game making
(From newest to oldest)
- Game Making progress -part 11- 2012-03-30
- Game making progress -part 10-2012-02-18
- Game making progress -part 9- 2012-02-13
- Game making progress, almost done 2012-02-07
- Game making progress 2012-02-04
- Game making progress, school 2012-02-02
- School & game making progress 2012-01-31
- Math genius needed for game making 2012-01-11
- Making a game, progress 2012-01-06
- What makes a game interesting? 2012-01-03
- A new beginning 2011-12-31

Contents of blog:
- Stick to the plan!
- The grinding of game programming
- The fun side of game programming
- Implementations done since last blog
- Screenshot gallery
- Summary
- Index

Stick to the plan!
This section is for the aspiring game programmers among us that haven't made their first step yet into making their first game.

Every time something is not going to how you want something done then you're going to want to fix this. Stick to the plan (or your design document)! For the first time I've wanted to change some implementations which was not in line with my design document.
The design document is a good tool to have a structure and planning of your game making progress. You can divide tasks easier if you have team members in the future and/or if you are unable to complete a task then someone else can replace you and just look at the design document and complete what is asked from there on.

After a day of trying to implement/improve the new implementation I realized that the design document was there for a reason and I shouldn't have wasted a day on the new implementation. I can keep on trying to improve an implementation but then the game would never be done since I would constantly be trying to improve and I need to be focussed on the task at hand that is written by me. So again, stick to the plan! Don't have doubts unless you have a better implementation as in the code can be cleaner or the code will increase the game performance. If it isn't this then stick to the plan.

The grinding of game programming
Sometimes when you have bugs and you debug but it doesn't tell you a lot then you get frustrated really quickly. It becomes boring and when people get bored with a hobby they tend to leave it as is. I don't have this as I always just bite myself through it and this past week was no exception.

I spent about 10 hours banging my head to the wall what my bug[1] was and after figuring it out I moved on. Another obstacle I managed to overcome and learn a "new" thing lol.

The fun side of game programming
Not everything is boring about game programming. For me the most fun part is when I actually complete something the way I exactly envisioned it and specified this.

I managed to have a complete flow of talking to an NPC and have a conversation (see screenshot gallery for some fun placeholders I used ) and (almost implemented) accepting a quest.

When these things happen you feel like you're on top of the world only to realize you're standing in your room screaming of joy...
Nonetheless no one can take these moments of you when you achieve something you desire.

Implementations done since last blog
I've succesfully managed to have a conversation with any NPC with images and all that jazz and accept a quest after talking to an NPC.

Have a battle statistics page after a battle telling you the stats like the total damage or healing done but also the amount of loot and gold you have received.

Faking depth in game. You will now see that a character is behind another obstacle and make it look like there is depth (there are still some errors with this but it's more due to the pictures I'm using).

Screenshot gallery
Here are the screenshots of the implementations I've done since past week.

[image loading]
First try.

[image loading]
Second try without implementation of the auto RNG looting

[image loading]
Third try but using some stubbed text instead of the RNG looting

[image loading]
Finally managed to get the RNG looting on the 4th try (what a shame! I didn't loot anything )
Oh and as fun I wanted to have the text say: "It's over 9000" when the loot was over 9000 but I don't know if it's actually appropriate to do such things

[image loading]
First try with Itachi talking????? (No it's just fake text I used at this implementation try)

[image loading]
I see some glitches :X This is due to the image not actually being png lol

[image loading]
I'm a ninja, I can sneak behind people.

[image loading]
OH MY GAWD! The great Uchiha Itachi needs your help! (Second try with conversation text loaded this time).

[image loading]
Changed the text (3rd try)

[image loading]
LOL Sasuke has to help Itachi? (Conversation from the 3rd try of implementation)

[image loading]
Still the 3rd try of implementation and this was the conversation I made (2 lines or so from Itachi and a line from Sasuke.

[image loading]
The quest template of accepting a quest after having a conversation with an NPC.
Almost implemented as I haven't put text on the box yet and haven't positioned the boxes of accepting/declining a quest request. (1st try of implementation).

Summary
Done a lot of stuff and banged my head equally as much as I screamed in joy about completing stuff for my game.
Don't surrender easily when you get to the first obstacle. Many people give up and the rewards is really satisfying (in whatever you do, I know it's such a cliché).

Index
[1] The bug was that at runtime my object would not recognize the method that was being called on the object even though the class implementation has the method publicly listed.
Turns out that whenever I returned an object of this class it was of type id and thus at runtime it would not recognize the method since the object wasn't of the class I was trying to instantiate from. (Found this page and easily solved the problem).

***
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4601 Posts
April 09 2012 23:03 GMT
#2
Good stuff, it starting to shape up.
You have a really nice font btw.

So is the art now subcontracted or it something you are temporarly using?
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
April 09 2012 23:27 GMT
#3
On April 10 2012 08:03 0x64 wrote:
Good stuff, it starting to shape up.
You have a really nice font btw.

So is the art now subcontracted or it something you are temporarly using?

Placeholders man

I'd love to learn doing game art as well just to broaden my skills but I think if it's anything like programming it'll take years to get some basics :<
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4601 Posts
April 10 2012 20:17 GMT
#4
http://gamasutra.com/blogs/author/ChrisHildenbrand/604065/

Start by going through these, it will get you very quickly to the point where you can make your own temp graphics... It's not that hard and doesn't require skills.
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 24m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft708
RuFF_SC2 198
StarCraft: Brood War
Leta 177
BeSt 139
PianO 119
Yoon 57
ggaemo 42
ZergMaN 34
Mind 22
Bale 7
Icarus 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever356
Counter-Strike
summit1g614
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox2059
C9.Mang0406
Other Games
tarik_tv3819
JimRising 536
ViBE97
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1070
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22118
League of Legends
• Rush658
• Lourlo478
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
7h 24m
Gerald vs YoungYakov
Spirit vs MaNa
SHIN vs Percival
Creator vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
1d 4h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 7h
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-12-22
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.