• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:14
CEST 23:14
KST 06:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 230ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon415.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation0
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 13165 users

Why I hate Dota sometimes

Blogs > EtherealDeath
Post a Reply
Normal
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 23:12:17
March 21 2012 23:08 GMT
#1
Don't get me wrong, Dota is damn fun to play, especially with/vs friends. However, 90% of the time one team or another ends up with 2 or more fucktards. What is a fucktard? We could start by defining them as people who go 0-8 by 20 minutes in, which happens a lot for me, or we could say they are the fucktards who, in the midst of a 3v1 gank where their friendly pudge has hooked + dismembered a cm and is now under tower fire, they decide to go run to shop to buy boots... because they need boots.

I haven't played Dota in years. I just got my Dota 2 beta yesterday, so obviously I am very rusty and probably suck gigantic horse cock atm. However, it is quite surprising how much whale cock others can suck. A few things that have happened in my first few games.

1) CM never goes away from the tower. Apparently she would rather play it safe rather than risk being ganked at level 2 as everyone on the opposing team is clearly visible in their lanes.

2) The aforementioned 3v1 gank misery. I pop out from the trees, hook then dismember CM (damn silence from someone prevented insta dismember), so now I'm under tower while rotting. It's ok though, I'm at half health and besides two people are right next to me. Well, they both run off to go shop (bot lane). I thus die. I bitch about it in a one liner - the response: "Dude why did you go in I have to buy boots".

3) 3 people on the opposition suck complete ass and go 0-21 combined for them in a fairly quick manner, was pretty hilarious but sad at the same time.

4) Enigma the feedbot on our team. Actually, he wasn't a bot. But, his modus operandi was to a-move mid all game long. No heroes in sight and you're alone next to their 2nd tower? NP keep chugging along oh shit fuck dead. Goes 1-10 fairly quickly and then has to leave for his puppy is on fire or something silly I'm sure.

5) And the all the generic examples of people feeding like hell on your team.

6) Did you know that Gondar soloing vs two ranged casters can somehow go 8-0 on them in 15 minutes? Without ganks? Fucking incredible right? Well, actually I'm fairly certain that's impossible but it happened anyways.

Ok I need to just do IH and shit now, fuck this blasphemy. 3-5-2 already lol, I tend to leave games pretty quickly if it is clear that the intent is to be absolutely useless and/or feed. I like to not have to play carry every game... but it appears at lower mmr levels that may be exactly what I will have to do, despite my preference being gank/support heroes. After all... the gankers get no support in the non-existent ganks when half the people you play with probably can't break silver in SC2 if their private parts depended on it.

</rant>

p.s. And besides it is more fun to get raped because you are just not good enough rather than your team sucking balls, though granted that creates the above situation for your teammates :D. Faster improvement yo! Fuck this makes me want to 1v1 ladder in SC2...

**
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
March 21 2012 23:14 GMT
#2
This is what originally drove me from HoN to SC2 but I gave it another try with DotA2. This time though I started making as many friends as possible. Every time you are in a team with good cooperation, ask them to play again. Slowly build up a big friends list and you'll have lots of good folks to play with all the time.


Also, I won't make assumptions, but judging from the attitude of your rant it sounds like you may be someone who rages at their teammates in game which will only make your teamwork worse. Being friendly and helpful (via mic if available) can turn around many games and help newer players.
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
March 21 2012 23:16 GMT
#3
Ahahahaha this entire post looks like one of my skype conversations every single day with one of my friends xD I'll tell you what I tell him. At least both teams normally have these people. lol
LiquidDota Staff
Sickkiee
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan607 Posts
March 21 2012 23:17 GMT
#4
Lmfao, I had a good laugh.

Unfortunately, this is true and will only get worse when it comes out for release.
Lifes too short to be small.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
March 21 2012 23:18 GMT
#5
On March 22 2012 08:16 OmniEulogy wrote:
Ahahahaha this entire post looks like one of my skype conversations every single day with one of my friends xD I'll tell you what I tell him. At least both teams normally have these people. lol


Actually, I've experienced the exact opposite. For whatever cause, the teams I've experienced have tended to be stacked. One side or the other is pretty much the domination side and has at most 1 baddie, while the other team just gets steamrolled. I haven't had any close games so far, just easy win or easy lose.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 23:22:46
March 21 2012 23:20 GMT
#6
The MM system in Dota2 is actually quite good, just keep playing and sooner or later you will certainly be playing against evenly skilled opponents, it just takes a few days. Iv been having a blast playing against more or less evenly skilled opponents for several months now. Give it time is my advice

To be honost I would recommend random MM queue with friends over TLIH at the moment, it lacks consistent moderation and has enormous rage issues. I expect it to improve as more people use it though.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
March 21 2012 23:22 GMT
#7
Indeed. Whale cock > Horse cock.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
March 21 2012 23:28 GMT
#8
On March 22 2012 08:22 ShadeR wrote:
Indeed. Whale cock > Horse cock.


I considered saying walrus cock (did you know walruses have big penis bones? That's right, a fucking bone), but then again a multifoot long bone doesn't compare to the ~6 gallon ejaculation of the whale.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 23:31:50
March 21 2012 23:30 GMT
#9
When both teams have players like that I try not to complain because if you're really that much better than them you should be like 15-2 without your teams support anyway. If you win enough you'll get matched consistently with better players so don't worry about it. It's more frustrating when their team is coordinated and good and your team isn't and just plays on their own not buying wards/tps.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
March 21 2012 23:32 GMT
#10
On March 22 2012 08:20 PassiveAce wrote:
The MM system in Dota2 is actually quite good, just keep playing and sooner or later you will certainly be playing against evenly skilled opponents, it just takes a few days. Iv been having a blast playing against more or less evenly skilled opponents for several months now. Give it time is my advice

To be honost I would recommend random MM queue with friends over TLIH at the moment, it lacks consistent moderation and has enormous rage issues. I expect it to improve as more people use it though.


I didn't realize Dota2 had an MMR system. Every game has just been so easy for me and I was getting pretty bored.
Bkennedy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States266 Posts
March 21 2012 23:35 GMT
#11
*Sigh*

I've never played a MOBA, and this is exactly why I'm scared to.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
March 21 2012 23:38 GMT
#12
On March 22 2012 08:30 Itsmedudeman wrote:
When both teams have players like that I try not to complain because if you're really that much better than them you should be like 15-2 without your teams support anyway. If you win enough you'll get matched consistently with better players so don't worry about it. It's more frustrating when their team is coordinated and good and your team isn't and just plays on their own not buying wards/tps.


That only works when I'm playing a carry... which I don't most of the time cause I just prefer other types.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 21 2012 23:49 GMT
#13
On March 22 2012 08:35 XenocideFTW wrote:
*Sigh*

I've never played a MOBA, and this is exactly why I'm scared to.

Because you think you'd be so much better than your teammates...?
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
March 22 2012 00:00 GMT
#14
Play with friends....preferably good ones.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
March 22 2012 00:11 GMT
#15
On March 22 2012 08:14 Backpack wrote:
This is what originally drove me from HoN to SC2 but I gave it another try with DotA2. This time though I started making as many friends as possible. Every time you are in a team with good cooperation, ask them to play again. Slowly build up a big friends list and you'll have lots of good folks to play with all the time.


This is definitely the best advice. I always have the most fun in DotA 2 and HoN both when there's more friends playing with me than pubs.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
March 22 2012 00:14 GMT
#16
That's weird SEA has a massive Dota scene and everyone is really good. Hell just like how you went to a PCBang and it was full of BW players, 99% of people in our local lans are playing non-stop Dota.

Unless you are only allowed to play on US servers. I guess most of us are stuck with Dota1 anyway until Dota2 is released.
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
March 22 2012 00:48 GMT
#17
On March 22 2012 09:14 sluggaslamoo wrote:
That's weird SEA has a massive Dota scene and everyone is really good. Hell just like how you went to a PCBang and it was full of BW players, 99% of people in our local lans are playing non-stop Dota.

Unless you are only allowed to play on US servers. I guess most of us are stuck with Dota1 anyway until Dota2 is released.


Hmm yea perhaps I should try that out, so I'd imagine I should lag a bit to SEA since I'm east coast US. US just has sooo many shitty players in every game though compared to other regions it seems. Probably because there are more super casuals in the US due to culture and other things...
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
March 22 2012 00:52 GMT
#18
lol since you have dota background people are gonna seem VERY bad from your perspective. like others have said, make new friends and only play with them on your team!
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
March 22 2012 01:41 GMT
#19
This reminds me of my brother every time he plays Dota 2. It's hilarious to watch just how much he rages every single game. FUCK THOSE FEEDERS!!!
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 01:51:32
March 22 2012 01:49 GMT
#20
On March 22 2012 09:48 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 09:14 sluggaslamoo wrote:
That's weird SEA has a massive Dota scene and everyone is really good. Hell just like how you went to a PCBang and it was full of BW players, 99% of people in our local lans are playing non-stop Dota.

Unless you are only allowed to play on US servers. I guess most of us are stuck with Dota1 anyway until Dota2 is released.


Hmm yea perhaps I should try that out, so I'd imagine I should lag a bit to SEA since I'm east coast US. US just has sooo many shitty players in every game though compared to other regions it seems. Probably because there are more super casuals in the US due to culture and other things...


Oh I just read your country and assumed you were playing on SEA.

There should be an improvement but obviously not a significant one until Dota 2 is actually released. Most dota players here still play in LANs even and not on Bored Aussie (hardcore pub, kinda like ICCUP).

Hopefully though once Dota 2 is released everyone will move to it and also start playing online, the level of play should jump by quite a lot at least on SEA
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
lifeisgood99
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada915 Posts
March 22 2012 02:54 GMT
#21
I heard this type a rant a million times, but it's still just as funny.
:D
Taengoo/Eunji ~ flavourflower.tumblr.com
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
March 22 2012 03:02 GMT
#22
lol jason
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
March 22 2012 03:06 GMT
#23
the worst part is even if you grief the griefers you'll get banned for griefing because you're "ruining their game experience..."
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
March 22 2012 03:31 GMT
#24
On March 22 2012 12:06 Endymion wrote:
the worst part is even if you grief the griefers you'll get banned for griefing because you're "ruining their game experience..."


It's cool I've found a relatively safe way to play after I've determined my team is impeccable at ball sucking. I feed hard as fuck, not too obviously though, just like a noob would.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
March 22 2012 03:33 GMT
#25
I also realized that having voice chat turned on results in extraordinarily terrible play from the listeners.
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
March 22 2012 03:41 GMT
#26
On March 22 2012 09:00 Loanshark wrote:
Play with friends....preferably good ones.

cant echo this enough. You play with pubs? You're gonna have a bad time.
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
March 22 2012 06:03 GMT
#27
play enough the matchmaking works pretty good. but when you first start,
its nuts. frustrating as hell.
Administrator-I am the universe- Morihei Ueshiba
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
March 22 2012 09:23 GMT
#28
On March 22 2012 15:03 MightyAtom wrote:
play enough the matchmaking works pretty good. but when you first start,
its nuts. frustrating as hell.


The alternation is the ridiculous part haha. I will get something like 3 games in a row with absolutely shitty team, then the next 3 games in a row the other team is the absolutely shitty ones. I kind of want some actual close competitive matches, rather than one side or the other gets stomped.
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
March 22 2012 09:47 GMT
#29
Night stalker solo mid every game until people start sucking less (though that could take a while), but at least you should get there with 80-90% winrate.
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
17:00
Mid Season Playoffs
ArT vs HarstemLIVE!
Krystianer vs Iba
SteadfastSC182
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 532
SteadfastSC 182
Railgan 103
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 1793
ggaemo 159
910 36
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm103
Counter-Strike
fl0m1795
minikerr9
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King106
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu449
Other Games
Grubby3098
mouzStarbuck215
RotterdaM202
C9.Mang0135
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick36707
BasetradeTV392
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 45
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie887
• Shiphtur293
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 46m
Replay Cast
12h 46m
CrankTV Team League
13h 46m
OSC
15h 46m
Big Brain Bouts
18h 46m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
RSL Revival
1d 11h
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
CranKy Ducklings
1d 12h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 12h
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
2 days
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Heroes Pulsing #3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.