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Sc2Corpse
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cz
United States3249 Posts
For godsakes don't drop out as a gold leaguer. What exactly are you going to do, sit at home and play 12 hours a day? A better plan is to be more efficient with school, work hard at it and get your daily work done fast so you can play SC2 the rest of the day. I don't see why you can't spend like on average say 5 hours a day doing school stuff, leaving 7-9 hours for SC2. Even in the poker community where people are banking $50/hour+ dropping out is seen as a bad move. If you really want to do this, make it your goal to stay in school and work hard at it and SC2 until you get to GM. Then start talking about dropping out again. | ||
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Sc2Corpse
United States210 Posts
On March 21 2012 12:58 cz wrote: "I have only been playing the game for 2 and a half months and I am already in Gold league" For godsakes don't drop out as a gold leaguer. What exactly are you going to do, sit at home and play 12 hours a day? A better plan is to be more efficient with school, work hard at it and get your daily work done fast so you can play SC2 the rest of the day. I don't see why you can't spend like on average say 5 hours a day doing school stuff, leaving 7-9 hours for SC2. Even in the poker community where people are banking $50/hour+ dropping out is seen as a bad move. If you really want to do this, make it your goal to stay in school and work hard at it and SC2 until you get to GM. Then start talking about dropping out again. Wise words, I shall think hard about this decision. and I didn't have plans of just sitting at home and playing Sc2, I was going to work a job also to support myself, and if I can hardly find the time to play Starcraft just with juggling college I know I will never get to achieve my dream juggling college AND a job. | ||
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F3arless
Canada45 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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Wampaibist
United States478 Posts
Hes taking a break because it's his passion College is so important and I wish you would try your hardest to do both at the same time, and I hope this is what you really want. Give college your all till the semester ends and then make your final decisions after thinking it through a little longer. Give it your best shot dood, hf | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
In short: - Try to get as good as you can get with the time you have. It depends on your major, but you should have quite a bit of free time if you free yourself from extra activities that waste your time and get your work done in an efficient and timely manner. - If at this point you really feel you're pushing your skill level to the highest you can with what resources you have and you're really still interested, then consider taking off school. If you choose to go through with it anyway, I wish you the best of luck - I don't mean to discourage you from following your dreams. I am a strong believer of everyone simply trying to enjoy life as much as they can more than anything, and if this really makes you happy, then go for it. If you have a comfortable family life and can easily just take a semester off to do this then great, but I'm just warning you that it's nearly impossible to know what you really want until you're at that point. See you at MLG!  I'll be there too. If you'd like to chat more about the journey to becoming a pro level player @ MLG, feel free to PM me and maybe we can meet up for some food or something one day, if I'm not busy haha ^^ enjoy! glhf~ | ||
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Enki
United States2548 Posts
On March 21 2012 12:56 Sc2Corpse wrote: So here is my story, I know a lot of you TL members are going to say "No don't do that, you will never make it, it is impossible." but I think I am going to take some time off of college to be more focused and dedicated into Starcraft, it is my DREAM to be a professional RTS/Sc2 player and make a living from something I love doing playing video games, and I am a firm believer that if you dedicate yourself to it you can reach your dreams no matter what, and here recently I just cant focus my attention to Sc2 and follow my dream like I want too because College swamps me with Homework day after day, so during the week days I hardly get to play any and It keeps me stressed out, I have only been playing the game for 2 and a half months and I am already in Gold league with no RTS background, playing about 3 hours a day and watching streams ALOT sometimes even during my classes! I was never really good at school anyway, Games have always been there for me and I know that's what I want my future to be in, the gaming industry, so I think after this semester ends, one more month, I will take 1 or 2 semesters off too just play Starcraft 10+ hours a day just to see how far I get, if all else fails and I don't get even close to my dream I can just start going back to College, I just wanted to get everyones input on this idea, and please don't say "You will never make it." because I have learned not to listen to stuff like that, anyone can make a dream come true....Thanks TL. See everyone at MLG Columbus! :D No offence, but it's the truth. SC2 has been out for almost 2 years now (already been 2 years if you count the beta) so getting into it just now is a bit late to really have dreams of going pro. Even more so since you say you have never played an RTS before so your mechanics are levels behind everyone elses. Also, 3 hours a day is nothing really, especially since you need to play catch-up like I said earlier. If you really are serious about it you would already be devoting more time to it. Just continue college, unless you are just plain flunking out then there is no reason to leave it. Unless you are already a High Masters/GM I wouldn't dream of going pro. It seems like you already lack the discipline to succeed in school so what makes you think you can succeed being a progamer? Could you really stand to play SC2 for hours everyday and not get bored of it?.Sorry to be so blunt, but I think you should really think this over. You don't seem dedicated enough to go pro. If you are looking for someone kinda doing what you are doing, check out Lobbers posts on reddit. He is taking a year off trying to go pro. Even though he seems really dedicated and is putting a decent amount of time into it, he isn't accomplishing much. All I know of him is that he hit GM on NA recently and took a game off Huk in a Playhem. That's nice and all but it's still a far-cry away from being a programer, and this is someone who is more dedicated and better then you. | ||
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
Editl: by don't drop out, i meant don't take a brake from college just to play games. Do both at the same time to see if ur really have the talent to do it. | ||
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Black[CAT]
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cz
United States3249 Posts
On March 21 2012 13:02 Sc2Corpse wrote: Wise words, I shall think hard about this decision. and I didn't have plans of just sitting at home and playing Sc2, I was going to work a job also to support myself, and if I can hardly find the time to play Starcraft just with juggling college I know I will never get to achieve my dream juggling college AND a job. Isn't working a job to support yourself going to take as much if not more time away from your day as college? If you're in a college program with actual jobs at the end (e.g. not liberal arts) then you can just not work and go into debt. Making min wage to take time away from school doesn't always make sense. | ||
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RedJustice
United States1004 Posts
It seems you are already working, which can take away your time. Do you mind explaining what about school (whether it be the school you attend is so very difficult, your particular major, etc) that is keeping you from being able to spend time gaming more? Are you doing other activities that are a time suck? There may be solutions to free up more of your time than you think you have. Someone who can be very helpful for this is a learning resource specialist that many schools may offer as a resource. These people aren't just for someone who has a disability. They can help you with things like time management so that you can get things done very efficiently and have more free time. | ||
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
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Sc2Corpse
United States210 Posts
On March 21 2012 13:11 cz wrote: Isn't working a job to support yourself going to take as much if not more time away from your day as college? If you're in a college program with actual jobs at the end (e.g. not liberal arts) then you can just not work and go into debt. Making min wage to take time away from school doesn't always make sense. Not exactly, College require me having homework from 4 classes, 4 days a week, If I just worked a job, it would be work come home, play starcraft, repeat. | ||
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Initiative
United States131 Posts
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Sc2Corpse
United States210 Posts
On March 21 2012 13:12 RedJustice wrote: Pokebunny and cz have the best advice-- don't give up if you are passionate about it, but leaving school may not be the best solution. It seems you are already working, which can take away your time. Do you mind explaining what about school (whether it be the school you attend is so very difficult, your particular major, etc) that is keeping you from being able to spend time gaming more? Are you doing other activities that are a time suck? There may be solutions to free up more of your time than you think you have. Someone who can be very helpful for this is a learning resource specialist that many schools may offer as a resource. These people aren't just for someone who has a disability. They can help you with things like time management so that you can get things done very efficiently and have more free time. Pretty much the College I go to, which im sure most Colleges are like this SWAMP me with homework, I am talking about 4 classes giving homework 4 days a week, so it takes up a HUGE part of my time, I am majoring in Computer Programming so I also am doing hard math which I am struggling with since it is my worse subject, so really by the time I study and do homework, its time to go to sleep and wake up early and go to class, repeat, its just a huge road block in my way of my dream it feels like. | ||
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F3arless
Canada45 Posts
On March 21 2012 13:09 Black[CAT] wrote: LOL, another one of those wood/bronze/gold to Pro blogs! I thought they were extinct already! QFT, please dont drop out before talking to ur parents, if they are radicalists, dont upset them, play in the summer! | ||
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Thaniri
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MacroNcheesE
United States508 Posts
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zOula...
United States898 Posts
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Sc2Corpse
United States210 Posts
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RedJustice
United States1004 Posts
On March 21 2012 13:17 Sc2Corpse wrote: Pretty much the College I go to, which im sure most Colleges are like this SWAMP me with homework, I am talking about 4 classes giving homework 4 days a week, so it takes up a HUGE part of my time, I am majoring in Computer Programming so I also am doing hard math which I am struggling with since it is my worse subject, so really by the time I study and do homework, its time to go to sleep and wake up early and go to class, repeat, its just a huge road block in my way of my dream it feels like. Hmmm. Please take this as a serious attempt to help and not just bragging-- I have the personal experience of working 2 jobs while taking 30 hours of class a week at an Ivy-League school. I am not majoring in Comp Sci but as you can see I do have large constraints on my own time. I know however that it would be possible for me to commit at least 30 hours a week to sc2 if that was my goal. 30 hours a week is a good chunk of time to devote to getting better. Of course this implies eating meals in my room, and not going out with friends more than once a week for dinner, and not joining other activities. I am almost positive there are ways you could find to devote more time to sc2. If your struggles with understanding some subjects and completing the homework are really sucking up all your time (and also it would seem discouraging you in your school work), you should really consider getting tutoring and extra help. Another idea to consider honestly is why you are studying an area you have so much difficulty with. You don't seem particularly passionate about it if you are willing to give it up easily for something else. Have you thought about switching majors to something you have an easier time with and enjoy more? That tends to help you have a lot more free time. | ||
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Sc2Corpse
United States210 Posts
On March 21 2012 13:25 zOula... wrote: I'm sorry but there's really no reason you shouldn't be able to train and improve and go to school at the same time. If you're as serious as you say you are, you should have no problem getting to masters (or even grandmasters) playing casually while taking care of your other responsibilities It's not even worth considering dropping out and going pro until you reach a high level on ladder. Why don't you try to reach masters or grandmasters by the end of the summer, and then go from there? Yea, this does make sense, my summer break starts in a month so I may just play tell its over and make my decision at the end of it. | ||
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Sc2Corpse
United States210 Posts
On March 21 2012 13:28 RedJustice wrote: Hmmm. Please take this as a serious attempt to help and not just bragging-- I have the personal experience of working 2 jobs while taking 30 hours of class a week at an Ivy-League school. I am not majoring in Comp Sci but as you can see I do have large constraints on my own time. I know however that it would be possible for me to commit at least 30 hours a week to sc2 if that was my goal. 30 hours a week is a good chunk of time to devote to getting better. Of course this implies eating meals in my room, and not going out with friends more than once a week for dinner, and not joining other activities. I am almost positive there are ways you could find to devote more time to sc2. If your struggles with understanding some subjects and completing the homework are really sucking up all your time (and also it would seem discouraging you in your school work), you should really consider getting tutoring and extra help. Another idea to consider honestly is why you are studying an area you have so much difficulty with. You don't seem particularly passionate about it if you are willing to give it up easily for something else. Have you thought about switching majors to something you have an easier time with and enjoy more? That tends to help you have a lot more free time. To be honest, there aren't any Majors that interest me, I chose Computer Science because it leads to being a Video Game Programmer which comes back to me just wanting to work in the video game industry, School and studying was NEVER my thing I am attending College so I wont end up working at Mcdonalds the rest of my life lol | ||
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dazed
Canada191 Posts
On March 21 2012 13:32 Sc2Corpse wrote: To be honest, there aren't any Majors that interest me, I chose Computer Science because it leads to being a Video Game Programmer which comes back to me just wanting to work in the video game industry, School and studying was NEVER my thing I am attending College so I wont end up working at Mcdonalds the rest of my life lol Dont insult Mcdonalds yo. I've been trying to get a second job for like 2 months now and I've been rejected by like 5 Mcdonalds ROFL. I wish I could get a McD job but apparently they have standards and I dont meet them! | ||
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RedJustice
United States1004 Posts
On March 21 2012 13:32 Sc2Corpse wrote: To be honest, there aren't any Majors that interest me, I chose Computer Science because it leads to being a Video Game Programmer which comes back to me just wanting to work in the video game industry, School and studying was NEVER my thing I am attending College so I wont end up working at Mcdonalds the rest of my life lol One thing to remember is that if you don't like the work component now, you probably won't like it in the future, no matter how interesting or awesome you think the subject is. I learned this when I first came to school-- I was going to study something I was really excited and passionate about, which was archaeology. I took a senior level class second semester of my freshman year. It was a very practically oriented class and we worked cataloging items for a museum. In talking to my professor who went on digs every summer, and also to the seniors in the class and what jobs they were getting, I discovered that even though I liked LEARNING about archaeology and ancient history, the actual field is a terrible fit for my personal and academic strengths! No matter how much you like games, you might hate the job, if you discover that the work required is not suited to your strong points. Things to consider is that there is more than one kind of job in the video game industry. You could study finance, or business, or marketing and work in the game industry! I suggest looking into other options as well as finding out more about the real work someone with your degree would do in the industry. It is important to be honest with yourself about the best fit for you because if you aren't you will end up very miserable indeed, and finding out later rather than sooner causes a hell of a lot more problems. If you do not go to school, that doesn't necessarily mean you need to work at McDonalds lol. But you do want to learn a trade. If academics in general are not your strong point, maybe you should consider a job such as a welder, or mechanic, or electrician or something. There are certain demands to these jobs that you won't find at a desk, but they can be satisfying and pay relatively well. This may be completely not you at all, or maybe you like working with your hands and setting your own hours, idk. In the end though-- don't spend the next four years studying something that's not for you! It's a waste of time and money. Even if you take some time off for sc2 and somehow 'make it', ultimately you need to figure out a direction for your life because you will have to retire pretttttty quickly in esports. | ||
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
On March 21 2012 13:44 dazed wrote: Dont insult Mcdonalds yo. I've been trying to get a second job for like 2 months now and I've been rejected by like 5 Mcdonalds ROFL. I wish I could get a McD job but apparently they have standards and I dont meet them! Think they need you to be a student or something..... Cause a lot of people apply for Mcdonald so they can only fill you in a small amount of time per week instead of 5 days a week, so a bunch of students with different free time would be ideal most of the time. | ||
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lubu42
United States314 Posts
I actually contemplated not caring about school and just going into Halo 3 professionally. What I realized is that it actually wasn't worth it. As great as it would be to be a professionall player like so many dream to be, I just couldn't do it :/ I wanted to get through high school and college and go off to work as a software developer like I plan to be (i'm currently a Senior in high school). I would've been one of the youngest professional gamers of the time and I was even being scouted by Final Boss :/ I won many tournaments and played at MLG one year to be beat out by the famous team Str8 Rippin (How great that was to lose to them...) However, here's the morale of the story that I want you to take into MASSIVE consideration. The only reason I was debating actually dropping out of school to become a professional Halo 3 player was that I was already at such a highly competetive ability to play. If i hadn't been at that point then there's no way I would've ever considered dropping out of school because I know the dedication and ability needed to be put into the game to play. Saying this, i'm going to recommend you something. Since the summer is almost here and you will be done with school, during the summer play as if you had taken the next 1-2 semesters off of school. Play as hard as you can and put as much dedication into the game as you can. Try your hardest to improve and get better throughout the whole summer. By the time summer is ending, if you're not at high masters level of play, do NOT drop out of school. I can tell you right now that if you can get to high masters and actually compete at some lower level tournmanets then you should think about dropping just the FIRST semester of school and keep going for your goal. These are the terms you should look for and I seriously advise you to do it coming from a guy who has attained where you want to be at some point. If you want to talk anymore about this then PM me but seriously bro, it's usually not worth it. | ||
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run.at.me
Australia550 Posts
No... Control your impulsive passions, at least to the extent where you can make rational and smart decisions. I went from bronze to masters in 6 months during uni (my marks are horrible in general, p's get degrees) - p for pass, but I sto could have done my work ( I just don't like university, it's boring) Sc2 just ain't worth it, at the end of the day it's just a video game | ||
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Immaterial
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On March 21 2012 13:17 Sc2Corpse wrote: I am majoring in Computer Programming lol | ||
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F3arless
Canada45 Posts
your parents wont fund your education you will lose interest in college ( this has been preached by adults for quite some time, once u "take a break" u dont want to go back) you will not be able to continue for some reason you will become addicted you will have wasted time | ||
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Fishgle
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
what's so funny about majoring in comp prog? | ||
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Battleaxe
United States843 Posts
With that said, if you can't do school and manage to play starcraft 20+ hours a week (with or without a job), then you probably don't have what it takes to be a progamer in the first place. Good luck with your decision though. | ||
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Omnipresent
United States871 Posts
On March 21 2012 13:41 Inori wrote: This was probably mentioned, but this: actually places you in the mediocre and below category, which means that investing even more time into sc2 is a terrible idea. Also this: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=290350 This sounds right to me. With no RTS experience and only playing about 45min-1hr a day, I was placed in gold to begin with and quickly got promoted to diamond. My skill is not impressive by any stretch of the imagination. It's really clear to me how much better the average high masters player is than I am, to say nothing of GMs and pros. The gap is basically insurmountable. It's worth noting that the gap between the average gold player (you) and the average diamond player (me) is also very large. I'm not trying to bring you down, but it sounds like you need some perspective. Pokebunny, who was nice enough to comment earlier in this thread, would beat me 10 games out of 10, every time. Most diamond players would likely do the same to you. If you ask me, everyone is capable of playing at a diamond level with a little well-focused practice, decent mechanics, and the proper mindset (read thought process while playing, not determination). If you aren't capable of playing at a high masters/GM level while practicing a couple hours a day, there's no reason to even think about making serious, life-altering decisions to persue a gaming "career" (and probably not even then). Also, unless you go to a really demanding school, working enough to support yourself will take up more of your time in an average week (excluding midterms/finals and any major deadlines) than education. I'd also like to dispel the notion that you can just "take a couple semesters off." When you try to go back, they're going to want to know why you left in the first place. Most school are concerned about their graduation rates and the resources they have to dedicate to each student. Don't assume they'll let you come back just because you got accepted the first time. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
If you can't make decent achievements doing part time, you won't be able to achieve anything amazing even if you do it full time. Computer Programming isn't a (typical?) major, based on my knowledge at least. | ||
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guN-viCe
United States687 Posts
On March 21 2012 13:17 Sc2Corpse wrote: Pretty much the College I go to, which im sure most Colleges are like this SWAMP me with homework, I am talking about 4 classes giving homework 4 days a week, so it takes up a HUGE part of my time, I am majoring in Computer Programming so I also am doing hard math which I am struggling with since it is my worse subject, so really by the time I study and do homework, its time to go to sleep and wake up early and go to class, repeat, its just a huge road block in my way of my dream it feels like. Here's an idea.. take less classes. If you can't get Masters while you are in college, you have no business trying to go pro. There have been poker players who banked 2 million in a year, and they were still going to school. I think school also keeps people mentally sharp and focused. GL either way.. | ||
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TG Manny
United States325 Posts
I get to play ~2 hours every few days now. My mechanics go in and out depending on natural variations of schedules that allow me to play more or less than normal. I've gone from silver to platinum (almost diamond at the moment) in the timeframe of 3 months. (I got the game late July, never really played multi until september/october). Not until you're starting to try and tier up through masters does it take very in depth time to get better at the game. I can glance at my replays and know exactly what to do from game to game to adjust my play. (vP, get that bunker up to stop the zealot stalker poke for instance. or vZ keep an eye on my hellions to deny the third longer or push with 3 siege tanks if no 3rd and 2 siege tanks if 3rd is going up etc). Every game adds one more element to the "experience" skill of SC2. If you really want to make masters fast and eventually get extremely good, dedicate 2 hours a day to playing first. You should just ladder like hell and watch replays when you lose and note reactions from opponents to "nonstandard" or even standard things you do. I note that vZ, they get super greedy if they see me with a quick 3rd OC...so I punish their replicant greedy 3rd/tech/ups with a siege push and marines they aren't expecting. If I contain, it's a victory and I can rally in and continue to force larva to be spent on units and not drones. If I lose it, my units popping can hold any 2 base aggression once my 3rd kicks in. The more you take away from each game the better you'll do, so don't worry about losing if you're experimenting and seeing what can happen. IMO something that I do to varying degrees of success is to watch a regularly streaming player (IE, Dragon, Destiny, Idra, PRIME tv, w/e) that you'd like to emulate. First, evaluate if it is worth emulating (I can't be MKP with my unit control to make 2 marines > infinity lings but I can be like MMA vZ to drop all the expands, continue macro, and just have more shit than my opponent). This is important to note if you can even get to the halfway mark of the mechanics required to play that style. Goody, the classic mech terran, has some of the simplest mechanics but makes the best F'in decisions with his units PERIOD. Infinity tanks using great terrain advantages wins him games, I can emulate it! MKP/Polt TvZ as of late has been very "risky" force the zerg into building units and make mine so much more cost effective than his and win. One bad baneling hit or bad read on the enemy can mean certain death. Not safe play for laddering unless you have good scouting and unit control. Step two, now that you have someone to watch...watch them! If you see them streaming pop it up in a side tab to go in and out when you're working or doing other stuff. Take notes on decisions they make and ask questions. Answer them, too! If you have the time to dedicate watching but not playing (IE tired, not on desktop and between classes, or @ work lol) then take notes on a match from beginning to start on top of the questions and answers. Be analytical. Why did MarineKing suddenly 5/6/7 rax marine allin vP? Was this planned or reacted to? What was the transition if it failed? What is the goal of different units, posturing, or scouting? Suddenly you see similar conditions from a protoss (say, 1g FE to 4 gate double forge twilight build) and you immediately halt a fast 3OC build to 1 rax FE into gasless marine SCV allin before he gets critical amounts of units. Practice the perfect conditions so you can be reactive with your play. The more you can emulate your favorite players, the stronger you'll find yourself playing in general. This is a silly use of time because low level play is GENERALLY mechanics and using your army semi efficiently rather than full efficiency, but it sets up a knowledge base so you can generally win games you shouldn't (IE behind in all reasons but can abuse a strange quirk of weakness) and look for things at the right times. All of a sudden your TvP 1 rax Fe into 3 rax can be a multitude of different plays like fast 3OC, fast upgrades, fast drops, lots of rax, whatever! Depending on the varying degrees of greediness your opponent goes rather than a 1/1/stim/conc/CS/medivac timing around 9-10 minutes. Without dedicated coaching you can get to know the game more intimately if you watch carefully and take notes rather than take the BO of the month and execute it and do what you feel like to transition into mid/late game. Back to the topic, however, stay in university. SC2 is a cold, heartless, bitch if you aren't Korean or Stephano. If you find yourself still wanting to go "pro", dedicate over the summer and test it out and see your progress, motivation, and viability after that test time. | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On March 21 2012 14:32 Cambium wrote: Don't do it. So many similar blogs have come up in the past, and the consensus is basically: If you can't make decent achievements doing part time, you won't be able to achieve anything amazing even if you do it full time. Computer Programming isn't a (typical?) major, based on my knowledge at least. i think he meant computer science. it's pretty well the same thing isnt it? | ||
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TG Manny
United States325 Posts
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Sc2Corpse
United States210 Posts
On March 21 2012 14:32 Cambium wrote: Don't do it. So many similar blogs have come up in the past, and the consensus is basically: If you can't make decent achievements doing part time, you won't be able to achieve anything amazing even if you do it full time. Computer Programming isn't a (typical?) major, based on my knowledge at least. *Computer Science, sorry for not using the right term. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
SO, with that in mind, although you can go back to college after most likely failing, it puts you behind in school and you gain nothing of value other than the self-recognition of having improved to diamond/masters most likely, and that's something you would be able to do eventually while going to school and playing over the weekend. Sure it may only be a few semesters, but when you start working after having graduated you a going to look back and wish you just started a year earlier. If you take lets say a year off, your graduation date is behind a year. If you make a 35k salary out of college, then you've just missed out on 20-15k (assuming you would be working part time during this "going pro" phase). I'm sure it's not what you want to hear, but hey, that's reality. | ||
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
On March 21 2012 14:50 Sc2Corpse wrote: *Computer Science, sorry for not using the right term. hmm, As far as I know, Computer Science is not a major. | ||
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theBALLS
Singapore2935 Posts
Don't waste a year of your life for something you will never achieve. I really don't mean to be harsh but I don't want to see another person throw their future away for something as ridiculous as this. | ||
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Grobyc
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TheNessman
United States4158 Posts
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TheNessman
United States4158 Posts
On March 21 2012 14:54 Grobyc wrote: Yeah that's more of a broad field of study. Data structures would be a major in Comp science/programming for example. the major Informatics is essentially Data Structures | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On March 21 2012 14:53 theBALLS wrote: Reality check. 2 months in, gold league, means you suck at this game. Don't waste a year of your life for something you will never achieve. I really don't mean to be harsh but I don't want to see another person throw their future away for something as ridiculous as this. I got to agree with this post. I think the OP is just trying to procrastinate on his career. I said the same thing about WoW many years ago... "I'm just going to take a break from college and play WoW for a semester" Next thing I know I was fucking up all of my classes and stuff. @OP: I'd advise you just stick with your university courses and play SC2 on the side. Look into the mirror and then ask your parents if you are really sure about putting your professional career to the side to play a computer game that you might not achieve anything to help you out in the real world (for example paying bills) | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On March 21 2012 14:53 brachester wrote: hmm, As far as I know, Computer Science is not a major. It's a major at several schools in the USA. There are subfields within it, of course, but if I hypothetically graduated with that major, the degree listed on my certificate will be CS and not any of the subfields. | ||
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Omnipresent
United States871 Posts
On March 21 2012 14:53 brachester wrote: hmm, As far as I know, Computer Science is not a major. I'm sure the name varries from country to country and between universities. That being said, "Computer Science" was a major at my university and every university I looked at. I didn't major in it, but it was available. For reference, in the US (where the OP is from) we usually say "Major in X with a focus in/on..." Some schools offer more specific majors or don't require you to focus on anything in particular. In any event, I'm not sure why this question has gotten so much attention. | ||
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TG Manny
United States325 Posts
On March 21 2012 14:54 Grobyc wrote: Yeah that's more of a broad field of study. Data structures would be a major in Comp science/programming for example. Data structures/programming tends to be actual computer science majors. Again, it depends on school system. CS is one of the least rigid programs because of the rapidly evolving fields and high amount of variation in specialties that professors possess. My school, for example, is huge in data structures and programming utility. We have a bunch of professors who used to work for businesses full time to make efficient networking and whatnot. Another I visited is more along the lines of the assembly/machine code levels, which drive high-level programming and innovate the tools my professors use to make utilities. | ||
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TheKwas
Iceland372 Posts
On March 21 2012 13:41 Inori wrote: This was probably mentioned, but this: actually places you in the mediocre and below category, which means that investing even more time into sc2 is a terrible idea. This. Sorry, you're just not very good at SC and probably don't have to the innate talent required to catch up to pros who DO have a lot of innate talent and who have been playing RTS for most of their lives. You're an 18 year old who just strapped on skates for the first time and is already thinking about joining the NHL. You need to really get a better perspective on your situation. Achieving Gold league in 2 months isn't impressive. If you were actually playing 3 hours a day, then that's actually a REALLY bad rate of improvement (relatively to what it would need to be to catch up to anywhere near pro level). | ||
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Yoshh
Canada78 Posts
How can you know that you want to be a pro? You might know what it's like to have fun playing video games, but you don't know what it's like being a professional. So why take such a big risk on something so uncertain? Why don't you stick with school until you become good enough to get a taste of what being pro feels like and make your decision then? Please make sure that your emotions aren't overwhelming your ability to make rational decisions. Honestly I think "taking a break from school" is only an acceptable decision when you're already a pro but just need that extra bit of practice time to get ahead of the competition. NOT when you're a gold level noob who thinks an extra 6 hours of free time will enable him to go pro. You don't need that much time if you really have what it takes to be a pro. | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
On March 21 2012 13:26 Sc2Corpse wrote: Guys, I am technically not dropping out, just taking a a couple semesters off to see how far I can get with this dream of mine, I am 18 so I am still young, plenty of time left to attend College. spoiler: you wont get far. | ||
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
Normally, Taking a gap year before college OR taking semester off aren't that much different from each other. But the problem is not you're taking a couple of semester off, it's the reason you said. People normally taking a gap year/semester normally to explore thing they didn't have a chance before, to find out what they really want in life instead of blindly jumping right into college. But man, Taking college off to play games? No man, there's so much more in this world, you just need to be more open to them instead of "I'm a gamer, i want to finish computer science not because I like study but I like to be involved into gaming, but now I feel like taking a semester off to try getting into progaming". See how stupid that sounds? All I can see from this post that you seems to categorized you as a gamer and you're not open to anything other than that. Maybe it's a good thing that you take this semester off but not for playing games, just go out there and explore your future. | ||
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theBALLS
Singapore2935 Posts
I wonder if we're encouraging him by discouraging him, you know what I mean? Now he's gonna be like ooooh I'm gonna prove everyone wrong I'm gonna take a break and go pro But seriously man, simply judging by your OP and your "achievement" mentioned in the post, you're not a very mature individual. You're obviously not thinking things through. | ||
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babylon
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
I hit masters within my first 3 ladder games of sc2 , 5-7 months after the game was released. I am not going to quit university, because that is stupid If you're lazy and have no direction then okay it make a little sense. . . but then in a few semisters ur gonna lose all focus and never go back to uni then end up working a shitty 9-5 u hate, that pays u nothing. Also , your mental state will NEVER be good in sc2 if u only play all day. eventually u will tire and need another activity OR u will rage every time u lose because u see no tangible results. Raging = not being objective and its very important to be objective in sc2 at ALL times. Going to uni, having a future, working out , going out with your friends, improves your mental game. Be well rounded to suceed in life, And sc2. note this doesnt rly apply to the top sc2 players at all, just some advice for u before u do something incredibly stupid | ||
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NonFactor
Sweden698 Posts
When Platinum was the highest rank, I was top Platinum. Same with Diamond. I quit over a year ago, came back, played 1 placement match and made it Masters and then continued to steamroll Master players with my outdated skills. Should I go pro? No. Because generally the people who do go pro are even better then I am at the game. 2.5 months and your ONLY in Gold is what you should say. 2.5 months of gaming you should be atleast Masters. I know I would be. SC2 isn't that hard of a game. Either you got it, or don't. It's actually quite interesting when you see people in Silver, Gold, Platinum with hundreds of games, if not over a thousand. How do some people become better so slow? Enough bragging, personally I don't think you should do it. | ||
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Th1rdEye
United States1074 Posts
However, I do feel you kind of undermine the dedication and time others have put into the game. You say you've played two months... well you know I've played since beta and also played broodwar for over 10 years before that... | ||
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Steelo_Rivers
United States1968 Posts
But in this case, im not saying that it would be a waste of time but it would not be a wise way to use your time. Just continue you to play sc2 as a hobby for the moment until your atleast mid-high diamond and then YOU make YOUR decision on what you would like to do and what dreams you would like to pursue. | ||
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dongmydrum
United States139 Posts
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PeZuY
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BenBuford
Denmark307 Posts
On March 21 2012 12:56 Sc2Corpse wrote: Games have always been there for me and I know that's what I want my future to be in, the gaming industry. The gaming industry are not just hiring passionate gamers. They're hiring peoples with educations and degrees. Complete school. Don't stay in gold-league education-wise . | ||
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
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BenBuford
Denmark307 Posts
On March 21 2012 16:16 rauk wrote: myself being masters having beaten some gms and pretty high masters before, always being in the highest non-gm league since the start of beta, i would never think of quitting college to try and do progaming. without even taking into account how lowskill you are to begin with, you should realize that progaming is even more work than college. if you can't handle being "swamped" with homework and you're trying to think of some scheme to escape it, there is no way you can handle self-motivating to play 16 hours a day, every day. school is easy, you just pay attention, do the homework and projects, and pass the test. you're competing with maybe 100 people in your class, and if you don't care about getting As or Bs then you can just be average with even less effort. you can't be a progamer without being better than the top pros, all of whom are working 16 hour days, all of who have decades more rts experience than you. Awesome post. This is very true. | ||
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Terranist
United States2496 Posts
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EternaLLegacy
United States410 Posts
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iamke55
United States2806 Posts
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KoveN-
Australia503 Posts
Forget about the cynics, don't let them tell you what you are and are not capable of. You're young, you got plenty of time to make mistakes and even if it doesn't work out at least you gave it a go! Never know if you don't try... Being gold level and not having previous RTS experience, it's not going to be a walk in the park but I'm sure you already knew that. | ||
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
On March 21 2012 16:31 KoveN- wrote: Go for it. Forget about the cynics, don't let them tell you what you are and are not capable of. You're young, you got plenty of time to make mistakes and even if it doesn't work out at least you gave it a go! Never know if you don't try... Being gold level and not having previous RTS experience, it's not going to be a walk in the park but I'm sure you already knew that. i've never heard of a single player who wasn't already pro-level in skill before they went fulltime. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On March 21 2012 16:31 KoveN- wrote: Go for it. Forget about the cynics, don't let them tell you what you are and are not capable of. You're young, you got plenty of time to make mistakes and even if it doesn't work out at least you gave it a go! Never know if you don't try... Being gold level and not having previous RTS experience, it's not going to be a walk in the park but I'm sure you already knew that. Terrible advice, going full time SC2 as a gold is the dumbest thing i've seen on this forum in a while. You should be able to hit GM whilst studying to make the jump to pro-level. | ||
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tests
United States160 Posts
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HaXeR
Czech Republic189 Posts
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PandaTank
South Africa255 Posts
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BearStorm
United States795 Posts
Also I don't know if you are like this, but if you start playing but then somehow convince yourself to watch a stream or something else Starcraft related then I am willing to bet money you will not even come close to making it. Because the thing about passion is that NOTHING will stop you from doing what you love. Even if you are "swamped with work" you will make time to play. You would sacrifice sleep or do something less responsible like play before completing your homework. However since you are not playing, I am going to guess you don't love playing, you love the idea of the glory of being a pro. If you disagree with me prove me wrong and unleash the passion and make time to play often THIS semester. Don't cop out and sacrifice school work. Sacrifice the comforts like Streams/TV/MLG/GSL/ffriends. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
On March 21 2012 17:25 BearStorm wrote: Taking a semester or two off school to go pro in professional Starcraft while being in gold league is a HORRIBLE idea. A better way to approach this is to play more and see how fast you are improving then deciding what to do from there. You say that you watch "A LOT" of streams. Stop doing this and start playing. Make time to play while you are at school and develop good study habits. Unless you are a junior or senior in a serious program then that should give you plenty of time to play. Truly devoting yourself to something is not easy. At least test how you feel after practicing 3-5hr a day because I'm going to guess you are going to hate how it feels. Also I don't know if you are like this, but if you start playing but then somehow convince yourself to watch a stream or something else Starcraft related then I am willing to bet money you will not even come close to making it. Because the thing about passion is that NOTHING will stop you from doing what you love. Even if you are "swamped with work" you will make time to play. You would sacrifice sleep or do something less responsible like play before completing your homework. However since you are not playing, I am going to guess you don't love playing, you love the idea of the glory of being a pro. If you disagree with me prove me wrong and unleash the passion and make time to play often THIS semester. Don't cop out and sacrifice school work. Sacrifice the comforts like Streams/TV/MLG/GSL/ffriends. Awesome post. This is very true. | ||
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Nizzy
United States839 Posts
On March 21 2012 12:56 Sc2Corpse wrote: So here is my story, I know a lot of you TL members are going to say "No don't do that, you will never make it, it is impossible." but I think I am going to take some time off of college to be more focused and dedicated into Starcraft, it is my DREAM to be a professional RTS/Sc2 player and make a living from something I love doing playing video games, and I am a firm believer that if you dedicate yourself to it you can reach your dreams no matter what, and here recently I just cant focus my attention to Sc2 and follow my dream like I want too because College swamps me with Homework day after day, so during the week days I hardly get to play any and It keeps me stressed out, I have only been playing the game for 2 and a half months and I am already in Gold league with no RTS background, playing about 3 hours a day and watching streams ALOT sometimes even during my classes! I was never really good at school anyway, Games have always been there for me and I know that's what I want my future to be in, the gaming industry, so I think after this semester ends, one more month, I will take 1 or 2 semesters off too just play Starcraft 10+ hours a day just to see how far I get, if all else fails and I don't get even close to my dream I can just start going back to College, I just wanted to get everyones input on this idea, and please don't say "You will never make it." because I have learned not to listen to stuff like that, anyone can make a dream come true....Thanks TL. See everyone at MLG Columbus! :D http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=300145 Good luck, I got my MS degree in december and without bragging my starting salary is higher than probably every NA player besides HuK. I'm sure a few others like IdrA, Destiny with coaching/streaming/sponsors/etc make more. Unless you're as talented as someone like vileIllusion and only in HS still at age 14-17, you're just an idiot, in my opinion of course for doing this. Taking just 1-2 semesters off puts you behind in the race. You have to consider college a race to be others and get a job in your field. If you start college and then take a semester off you burn off your 6-month grace period to pay off loans. I'm in that 6 months and already paying off thousands of my college getting a great head start. You're already in Gold League? I got rank 1 Diamond in the first 2 weeks with limited Beta. The game is all cheese on NA. Big fucking deal kid. Stay in college, it gets more fun when you're 21 and can drink legally. Get some SC2 buddies at your school and game it up on the weekend. Starcraft 2 isn't you're dream, its your fucking hobby. You don't think i'd love to be number 1 in GSL and fuck a bunch of Korean bitches? Let go of the dream, got my degree, picked up an Asian bitch in college, and I'm making money son. I say all this, as someone who in his prime, age 13-20 played WC3/DOTA insanely and tried going pro, almost dropped out of HS, got terrible HS grades, so I had to start at a low tech school and work my way up to a decent university, and I'm telling you stay in college. k bye gl | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
a NORMAL person should be able to get high masters within a week that's means you're pretty pretty bad | ||
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phiinix
United States1169 Posts
Have fun | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On March 21 2012 17:39 Nizzy wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=300145 Good luck, I got my MS degree in december and without bragging my starting salary is higher than probably every NA player besides HuK. I'm sure a few others like IdrA, Destiny with coaching/streaming/sponsors/etc make more. Unless you're as talented as someone like vileIllusion and only in HS still at age 14-17, you're just an idiot, in my opinion of course for doing this. Taking just 1-2 semesters off puts you behind in the race. You have to consider college a race to be others and get a job in your field. If you start college and then take a semester off you burn off your 6-month grace period to pay off loans. I'm in that 6 months and already paying off thousands of my college getting a great head start. You're already in Gold League? I got rank 1 Diamond in the first 2 weeks with limited Beta. The game is all cheese on NA. Big fucking deal kid. Stay in college, it gets more fun when you're 21 and can drink legally. Get some SC2 buddies at your school and game it up on the weekend. Starcraft 2 isn't you're dream, its your fucking hobby. You don't think i'd love to be number 1 in GSL and fuck a bunch of Korean bitches? Let go of the dream, got my degree, picked up an Asian bitch in college, and I'm making money son. I say all this, as someone who in his prime, age 13-20 played WC3/DOTA insanely and tried going pro, almost dropped out of HS, got terrible HS grades, so I had to start at a low tech school and work my way up to a decent university, and I'm telling you stay in college. k bye gl you "picked up an asian bitch" ? I hope you don't adress her this way | ||
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Nizzy
United States839 Posts
Lets just say every couple is different, our personalities fit perfectly and I couldn't be happier with her. We get along great, almost 3 years now. I'm part French and she tells me they like French guy's features. So good luck brah | ||
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Cortza
South Africa328 Posts
On March 21 2012 12:56 Sc2Corpse wrote: I have only been playing the game for 2 and a half months and I am already in Gold league with no RTS background Alert! This is no big feat. Nothing, I repeat NOTHING to go on here. As far as delaying school goes this is no reason for it. playing about 3 hours a day and watching streams ALOT sometimes even during my classes! I'm sorry, why do you sound so excited about this. Watching SC2 shit during class is the wrong idea. I was never really good at school anyway. That's no fucking excuse not to do it. Listen, finish college first. Then you can take a year off and play SC2, you know why? Because you've earned it. SC2 isn't gonna go anywhere. You are making the wrong decision putting your real life on hold for so long. | ||
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LunaSea
Luxembourg369 Posts
Look at the numbers : 51,8% of the people playing Starcraft II are in Gold league or higher. Whatever level you think you have, think that 1,197,144 people have at least the same level. Plus, if you come back after your 1 or 2 semesters of gaming and (probably failed at becoming a progamer) you won't be in a good / appropriate mood to attend college again. You definitely shouldn't abandon this dream of becoming a progamer but you should take that 1 - 2 semester break after you get to high-masters or so. If would be : 1) More realistic. and 2) More helpfull for your future gamer career. | ||
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Sc2Corpse
United States210 Posts
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Epoch
Canada257 Posts
If you can't make it to high masters, like hold top 8 ranks with your free 3 hours a day then don't bother quitting school. | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
Stay in school, you should be able to make it to masters after 1-3 months playing 1-2 hours a day if you're talented and focused on improvement. If you can't do this I would say that the pro thing isn't going to happen. Also, if this was a troll. You win. | ||
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Recognizable
Netherlands1552 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
If you can't get masters while also working/in school dropping out or quitting a job is a terrible idea. | ||
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
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-_-Quails
Australia796 Posts
On March 21 2012 13:03 F3arless wrote: logged in just to ... + get banned User was temp banned for this post. I do not understand why people still do this. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32045 Posts
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Terrifyer
United States338 Posts
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
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HardlyNever
United States1258 Posts
There are quite a number of pros (Lenock, qxc off the top of my head) that could compete on a pro/semi-pro level WHILE going to college. If you can't do that, you have 0 chance of making it as a real pro. I don't think you realize how big of an issue this is in the States. Virtually all my male friends never made it through college. They always had BS reasons as to why they wouldn't do it, but it usually resulted in them just sitting around playing fucking video games and getting a shit job with no future. Don't be one of them. Don't be "another statistic." Seriously, don't do it. It is a terrible long-term investment of time. | ||
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GreatFall
United States1061 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
Bill Gates didn't struggle through a "Hello World" assignment in College and be like "dam yo this programming thing is my dream cya Harvard." | ||
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GreatFall
United States1061 Posts
On March 22 2012 05:25 LuckyFool wrote: You drop out when you know you can make it happen. And if it's what you KNOW you really want. Bill Gates didn't struggle through a "Hello World" assignment in College and be like "dam yo this programming thing is my dream cya Harvard." I agree with LF. The best thing to do is leave college or your 'day job' when you KNOW you can make it. That way it isn't such a gamble. For example Sheth dropped out of college and so did TLO, but they did so after they were already winning tournies and making a name for themselve. For them it really wasn't such a big risk because they had already shown that they have the potential. The fact that you made it to Gold league after only 2-3 months is impressive; however, there is a HUGE skill gap between Gold league and GM. Some people could never reach GM regardless of amount of time played. You owe it to yourself to reach high masters as a minimum before you take such a drastic action as leaving college. | ||
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Vlare
748 Posts
If at some point you see yourself getting towards the top, and you think you have a shot, I would say that is when to make this sort of consideration. Without being completely BM, you're not at the top right now, you're actually quite the opposite, so there is no real reason to delay your life for something that "could be fun". Just keep playing, and do school. It's possible to do both, I do it, and have been doing it all my life. I am a high masters player, so it's possible. Hope whatever you do works out for you, gl! | ||
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opsayo
591 Posts
On March 21 2012 12:56 Sc2Corpse wrote: I have only been playing the game for 2 and a half months and I am already in Gold league with no RTS background, playing about 3 hours a day and watching streams ALOT sometimes even during my classes! maybe this is the reality check you need i played bw a lot and took like a 4 year break i bought sc2 for the first time two months ago and read three build orders (pvp, pvt, pvz) and played my placement matches i got placed into platinum without ever playing a game of sc2 in my life and i know for a fact i don't have what it takes to go anywhere in sc2 and rts gaming in general and i didn't even play for more than a few weeks the fact is if you aren't already very very close to the professional level when you play casually then you won't get there success requires more than just hard work, it requires talent and a little luck | ||
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
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Neo7
United States922 Posts
I chose Computer Science because it leads to being a Video Game Programmer which comes back to me just wanting to work in the video game industry Exactly where is your passion though? Is it playing video games or is it working with computers? Video Game Design on the programming design is actually extremely intensive with lots of tedious coding and algorithms and game engines and etc. Reading through this blog with some of your responses, you do not really seem like the type to sit down and crank out work even at a computer which development often is. I'm a senior student ready to graduate at the end of this semester in Computer Science and I can give you a quick rundown in three categories (1) Lower Division (2) Upper Division and (3) Your Minor. College life is not something to take lightly as by the time you enter into your Upper Division levels, you will be expected to actively seek out internships and other experience to further your career goal. Some colleges require you to have a certain amount of hours in internships. (1) Lower Division [Freshmen and Sophomore] These classes will generally be easy given that you can understand the theory and concepts of how to do basic things like loops and classes and programming in a structured way to solve a simple problem. You might also be exposed to some Object Oriented Programming which is essential to breaking down a large development project or complex problem into something that can be coded. Overall you will know which functions to program right off the bat since you're being told to do that as part of learning what they do. These classes will be fairly easy if you can intuitively grasp the ideas really fast. (2) Upper Division [Junior and Senior level courses] You will tackle a lot of theory courses as well as advanced programming techniques related to security, networking, operating systems architecture, and many other fun stuff. In terms of programming, shit will hit the fan when you enter Algorithms (most consider this to be the hardest course in Computer Science and it is for good reason). This class in particular will also probably be the last course you will take with an instructor holding your hand in terms of what to use. Almost every single theory class I've taken has required me to do a programming project where I get freedom to design it and code it whatever I like (I choose the language, design, algorithm, everything). I've seen many students immediately change their major once they've done this simply because they have no idea where to start in terms of designing their program let alone figuring out what algorithms to use. Internships are a huge thing here. They will be your immediate access to a plethora of knowledge on what platforms there are as well as what businesses tend to use. Many of the things you learn in an internship you will never learn in any college. They also play the vital role in getting your first experience in the workplace which is a necessity to almost every single computer related job. You need to be actively seeking out these internships and taking them when possible. Like it or not, your personal time will more than likely be going down the drain to finish your last years in college. I've never been good at StarCraft 2 (highest I gotten was platinum league and I don't play all serious) and I found that I've dropped steadily down to gold and right now silver. (3) Your Minor Your minor can potentially play an integral role in sharpening specific skills when it comes to Computer Science. My minor right now is Mathematics which helps me to understand algorithms much better. I know many people choose digital art style classes in hopes of working towards the interface and design areas. Many others take lots of web development from BCIS to further increase their programming knowledge of web development. I've seen others take psychology as a minor to help develop better interactive software. Your minor will also be quite intensive in that you will see Lower Division and Upper Division like above (although not as intense as your major). Even then you do not have to take one that compliments CS. I know many that picked a different subject because they have a passion for that subject as well. So overall I think you need to reassess your goals and probably need to give yourself way more evaluation time and practice time before declaring SC2 as your main thing and dropping from everything else. I have a friend who hit #1 Masters and he has to work like 7 days a week and he plays other stuff like DotA a lot as well. If you're only Gold league now, I highly recommend that you continue with your education instead until you are at the very least a high ranking Masters player since getting that with SC2 not being full time is reasonably achievable. | ||
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
Also it's not as easy to hop back into college after taking a year off as you seem to put it. I know way too many people who "took time off" and ended up never going back. I still believe it's entirely possible for you to improve even with limited time on your hands if you really want to. Although I advise not thinking of dropping out unless you are really high-ranked. | ||
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MaRiNe23
United States747 Posts
On March 22 2012 05:25 LuckyFool wrote: You drop out when you know you can make it happen. And if it's what you KNOW you really want. Bill Gates didn't struggle through a "Hello World" assignment in College and be like "dam yo this programming thing is my dream cya Harvard." printf("Hello World"); Oh the joys of programming in C -_- | ||
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
On March 22 2012 12:05 MaRiNe23 wrote: printf("Hello World"); Oh the joys of programming in C -_- wish my assignment would be this easy, ahem, the one i'm doing now,... fml | ||
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wongfeihung
United States763 Posts
On March 21 2012 12:56 Sc2Corpse wrote: So here is my story, I know a lot of you TL members are going to say "No don't do that, you will never make it, it is impossible." but I think I am going to take some time off of college to be more focused and dedicated into Starcraft, it is my DREAM to be a professional RTS/Sc2 player and make a living from something I love doing playing video games, and I am a firm believer that if you dedicate yourself to it you can reach your dreams no matter what, and here recently I just cant focus my attention to Sc2 and follow my dream like I want too because College swamps me with Homework day after day, so during the week days I hardly get to play any and It keeps me stressed out, I have only been playing the game for 2 and a half months and I am already in Gold league with no RTS background, playing about 3 hours a day and watching streams ALOT sometimes even during my classes! That was one sentence. On March 21 2012 12:56 Sc2Corpse wrote: I was never really good at school anyway, Games have always been there for me and I know that's what I want my future to be in, the gaming industry, so I think after this semester ends, one more month, I will take 1 or 2 semesters off too just play Starcraft 10+ hours a day just to see how far I get, if all else fails and I don't get even close to my dream I can just start going back to College, I just wanted to get everyones input on this idea, and please don't say "You will never make it." because I have learned not to listen to stuff like that, anyone can make a dream come true.... That was the second sentence. ______________________________ Doesn't matter, anyway. Good luck with Masters league. + Show Spoiler + I have a good guess as to why school wasn't working out for you. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
Basically you can't just decide to go pro. Anyway, as long as its possible for you to go back to college, then I suppose it will be a learning experience. | ||
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Nizzy
United States839 Posts
I just realized something, the OP kid is not wasting his time thinking about taking time off college for his dream, I'm the one actually wasting my time still explaining this same shit. Doesn't matter what you tell some of these kids, they need to experience it themselves. So whatever, I'm done LuckyFool lol. | ||
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Wortie
Netherlands212 Posts
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RoboBob
United States798 Posts
I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with taking a break from college. But first, you absolutely need to secure a dependable, livable job (>$25k/yr in US) completely outside of gaming *BEFORE* you drop out. If you can't do that, then I'm sorry, you can't afford to pursue a dream in USA's current economy. Expect to work full time (>40 hours/week) and play full time (>40 hours/week). If you don't have enough talent or dedication to make at least NA GM after 3 months on that schedule, then I'm sorry, you don't have either the talent or dedication to make it pro. Also, if you have student loans, check to make sure that they won't screw you over by breaking from college. Most student loans out there do not charge interest while you are a full-time student. However if you stop taking classes before you graduate, then they smack you with very high interest rates. | ||
Chill
Calgary25977 Posts
Edit: Oh you have a job. Okay then no problem and I retract my sarcasm. It's not a bad idea | ||
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Sejanus
Lithuania550 Posts
The fact that you made it to Gold league after only 2-3 months is impressive There's a time to flatter and then there's a time to be realistic. Now is the time to be realistic. Gold in 2-3 months is not impressive, it is something everyone can easily do. And many people start already in gold or higher. False flattering only leads to rude awakening later. It's better to be rude now, less serious consequences if you see what I mean. That said, I totally don't mean to discourage you. Just weight your chances realistically and why not, if you still want it, go for it. While even dropping college may have some damn serious consequences it still not the end of the world. But honestly I would suggest you to stay in college and play SC2 at least till you get to masters. | ||
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Fallians
Canada242 Posts
On March 23 2012 05:42 Sejanus wrote: There's a time to flatter and then there's a time to be realistic. Now is the time to be realistic. Gold in 2-3 months is not impressive, it is something everyone can easily do. And many people start already in gold or higher. False flattering only leads to rude awakening later. It's better to be rude now, less serious consequences if you see what I mean. That said, I totally don't mean to discourage you. Just weight your chances realistically and why not, if you still want it, go for it. While even dropping college may have some damn serious consequences it still not the end of the world. But honestly I would suggest you to stay in college and play SC2 at least till you get to masters. I agree with this. 2-3 months for gold is pretty terrible imo, took me 3 weeks to go from bronze to gold and that was with a server reset T_T | ||
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Sega92
United States467 Posts
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Cassel_Castle
United States820 Posts
1 - Only plays against the computer or the campaign 2 - Bronze in team leagues 3 - Bronze in 1v1 4 - Masters in 1v1 5 - GSL Code S 6 - Bonjwa (no one is even close to this) Like the Richter scale for earthquakes, each skill level is exponentially harder to get to. You're at a 3.5. Most TL posters are around a 3.9. Being a progamer requires a skill level of at least 4.5, probably more like 4.7 to make good money. So even if you keep improving at the rate you have been, it will take 3 years for you to get to the level of the worst progamers. Can you sustain yourself for that long? | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
Use the time to get a backup plan and find a career you want to be in. Lots of people have things they love that they don't make a living off of. You think people on TL don't love SC2? Sometimes you have to separate your career and hobbies so you can survive. | ||
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EsX_Raptor
United States2801 Posts
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Lexpar
1813 Posts
On March 22 2012 14:11 wongfeihung wrote: According to your punctuation and capitalization... That was one sentence. That was the second sentence. ______________________________ Doesn't matter, anyway. Good luck with Masters league. + Show Spoiler + I have a good guess as to why school wasn't working out for you. Oh wow. I didn't even notice that. I was adding in periods in my head. Jeez, now I want to punch this guy. | ||
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BearStorm
United States795 Posts
On March 23 2012 08:26 Itsmedudeman wrote: A lot of people will disagree, but on the other hand, why are you going to college if you don't like what you're doing? You're not just not making money then, you're losing money. If you're going to college you better have a good idea of what kind of job you want, not just what type of degree you want. I'd say take time off, get a job, play sc2 in your spare time, but realize that sc2 is a competitive field and you're far behind everyone else who are constantly practicing 8 hours a day. This is no different from someone quitting their job and wanting to go play pro basketball, except yours is a bigger risk because there's no financial guarantee, and there's no telling where esports will be in several years. Use the time to get a backup plan and find a career you want to be in. Lots of people have things they love that they don't make a living off of. You think people on TL don't love SC2? Sometimes you have to separate your career and hobbies so you can survive. You don't need to know what you want to do to go to college. Most people don't and do just fine. In fact college will give you an opportunity to realize what you want to do since it allows you to explore a lot of fields. People have to realize that all aspects of life are not going to be something that is enjoyable, especially work. If you don't go to college what can you do? Can you guaranty you can find something you like to do? If not why not earn a degree and expand the possibilities? Maybe you will end up doing something you don't like but at least you could earn more doing it. The only issue is if you sign up for a university and "decide" your calling is art/english/other garbage. Then chances are you won't be able to get a job. | ||
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