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Mossen
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
43 Posts
March 15 2012 01:48 GMT
#21
I live in Berkeley. You don't need a car. Many people ride bikes or BART train. It is a wealthy city overall but there is also many homeless, and higher crime than you would expect. I never feel threatened or scared though. There are a lot of highly educated people from all over the world who have chosen to settle here so overall its a good vibe. Rents are not too bad but higher than average for the U.S.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 01:56:37
March 15 2012 01:56 GMT
#22
go to california wtf

you're stuck in england bro

ca >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> england

and you don't need a car in San Francisco/Berkeley/San Jose area because the BART, Caltrain, Metro etc systems are very good
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 02:15:56
March 15 2012 02:15 GMT
#23
Not really sure what your priorities are. I can tell you straight up I'd rather live in the bay area any day than England any day, but that's not much help. What are specific things you'd like to know about?
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
March 15 2012 02:20 GMT
#24
On March 15 2012 10:46 Kentor wrote:
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On March 15 2012 10:23 KlaCkoN wrote:
Well its because I don't really know yet =P It seems like in the states you are admitted to a programme not a group like you would be everywhere else. You then chose / fight for supervisors during your first weeks there. I have an offer from the chemistry department and I made it very clear in my application that I want to do physcial chemistry. There are two groups in Berkeley doing solar energy conversion stuff which seems very interesting. Then there is also a very very famous NMR group.
If I stayed in the UK I would be doing quantum mechanics of radical pair reactions in biological systems.

Congrats for getting in :p. I am actually finishing my undergrad in Chemistry here in May. I thought about going to graduate school for theoretical chemistry (did some undergrad research with simulations), but then I thought if I get a PhD I really can't do much with the skills that I would have learned in those 4-5 years, besides more research or teaching, which I'm already losing interest in. Plus I've always been interested in software, so I decided to try to get a job in the software industry and spend that 4-5 years developing skills that I feel would make a bigger difference to other people instead. I'm not saying what you would be doing would not make a big difference in the world, but the chances of that is pretty slim. So I would say, think about what you really want to do after you get that PhD.

Well its sort why I am a bit hesitant about the bird navigation stuff, its so specialised that I might run the risk of ending up back where I started. "Stay at university or take banking/consulting job?" But I mean if I were to do say NMR there are tons of science related industry jobs available. And hey if you had spent four years in a theory group you would have been a guru in matlab or c++ or whatever they happened to use by the time you were done :p No I definitely see where you are coming from but I guess I'm just not done with learning new things just for the sake of learning. And since I am doing science I might as well take advantage of the fact that people will actually pay me to learn new stuff =p
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
tests
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States160 Posts
March 15 2012 02:21 GMT
#25
California is an awesome place. I am from Southern California and have gone to the bay area plenty of times. I would do it to be honest.
Time is money my friend.
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
March 15 2012 02:30 GMT
#26
On March 15 2012 11:15 UniversalSnip wrote:
Not really sure what your priorities are. I can tell you straight up I'd rather live in the bay area any day than England any day, but that's not much help. What are specific things you'd like to know about?

Haha England isn't too bad, a bit hierarchical at times but I think that's an anglo saxian thing and would be the same in states anyways. Apart from that I sort of like how english people seem to share a lot of the reserved, serious "let's stand in proper lines and talk about the weather" attitude I am used to from home lol. What's Cali like and why would you rather live there?
Priorities? Dunnu, do lots of science, find some nice people with which to share a few pints and have psudeo intellectual conversations. Play badminton?
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 15 2012 02:33 GMT
#27
On March 15 2012 11:30 KlaCkoN wrote:
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On March 15 2012 11:15 UniversalSnip wrote:
Not really sure what your priorities are. I can tell you straight up I'd rather live in the bay area any day than England any day, but that's not much help. What are specific things you'd like to know about?

Haha England isn't too bad, a bit hierarchical at times but I think that's an anglo saxian thing and would be the same in states anyways. Apart from that I sort of like how english people seem to share a lot of the reserved, serious "let's stand in proper lines and talk about the weather" attitude I am used to from home lol. What's Cali like and why would you rather live there?
Priorities? Dunnu, do lots of science, find some nice people with which to share a few pints and have psudeo intellectual conversations. Play badminton?

my brother played badminton at UCB. he said the taiwanese exchange students were intense.
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
March 15 2012 02:46 GMT
#28
On March 15 2012 11:33 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 11:30 KlaCkoN wrote:
On March 15 2012 11:15 UniversalSnip wrote:
Not really sure what your priorities are. I can tell you straight up I'd rather live in the bay area any day than England any day, but that's not much help. What are specific things you'd like to know about?

Haha England isn't too bad, a bit hierarchical at times but I think that's an anglo saxian thing and would be the same in states anyways. Apart from that I sort of like how english people seem to share a lot of the reserved, serious "let's stand in proper lines and talk about the weather" attitude I am used to from home lol. What's Cali like and why would you rather live there?
Priorities? Dunnu, do lots of science, find some nice people with which to share a few pints and have psudeo intellectual conversations. Play badminton?

my brother played badminton at UCB. he said the taiwanese exchange students were intense.

They always are ~~ I'm a very casual player myself but when you spend all day everyday doing matlab having a hobby that makes you jump around a lot is a good way of lowering the risk of dying from a heart attack at age 30 =p
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 04:03:34
March 15 2012 04:00 GMT
#29
Go Cali!
Trying not to be biased but this could be one of the most eye opening experiences ever. It's not like Washington (the state) or Kansas or Florida, It's mutha effin CA. And the Bay Area at that; Which I believe to be one of the most diverse places you could be. Good and bad which of course you will find out about, but I mean I'm SO sure it'll be a huge experience. I'm just in favor of trying awesome opportunities when you find them.

If we flipped the script and I was from Berkeley and offered a position for grad school either at Berkeley or England, I'd take England for suree. I mean when else do you get the opportunity?

Edit: As for the car thing, I think it depends on how much freedom you want to do things. I don't find Berkeley to be huge or anything, and I really like BART (although I haven't had the chance to be on many other alternatives)
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
March 15 2012 04:06 GMT
#30
Try something new, it's good for you. I'm guessing you are around 21, that's an age old enough to move out of your comfort zone a little bit (at least you won't have any language issues).

However, most of my UK friends from London hate it in Manhattan. They complain about the food, the service, the train system, and just about anything and everything; so that's something for you to think about as well.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
March 15 2012 05:12 GMT
#31
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DocM
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States212 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 05:41:41
March 15 2012 05:37 GMT
#32
Go to California, American girls love British guys, and California girls are some of the best.

Also, it will definitely be an adventure! Innout burger is amazing!
htn2481
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Vietnam117 Posts
March 15 2012 15:22 GMT
#33
Go west my friend! If you have the opportunity to travel to another part of the world, why not? When you're getting old, will you say, "darn, good thing I didn't go to California when I had the chance. Good ol' England is all I need." When you're young, you have the chance to take risks and explore the world, so why not? Will there be any time in your life where you can just pick up and leave and do whatever you want?

After I finished college, I went straight to California from Texas and it was one of the best decisions I could have made. I went to Southern California (socal) rather than Northern California (norcal) but I have some friends from the area and they are some of the nicest people I've met. It seems like everyone is really laid back and not materialistic/self centered compared to some socal people. In n Out, as others have mentioned is really good. You're basically living 1 hour from the beach and 1 hour away from snowboarding the mountains albeit it's a bit colder up north. I'm sure there are lots and lots of people who follow SC2 there and I'm sure you wouldn't have any trouble meeting friends. If you want to stretch your wings, get a change of scenery, I would do it in a heartbeat. Well, actually I did and never regretted it at all. It's a chance to develop yourself more as a person.

If you don't do it now, when will you do it? Take the risk while you still can. Best of luck on your decision.
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
March 15 2012 16:12 GMT
#34
The obvious advice would be to go because:

+ new country / culture
+ maybe only opportunity to do this
+ new people
+ your friends are gone anyway you said
+ no girl friend who keeps you
+ prestigious?
+ one important step more on your CV (been abroad in UK AND US to study = leet)

opposed to:

- your prof is a really great guy and one of the leading experts in the field you wanna work in later (probably important if you REALLY want to do this)
- you know your way around (this will be the reason for regrets later "I only stayed because it was convenient - how stupid")
- less visits to your family (or more expensive traveling)
- is there loyalty involved towards your prof?

_______

From what I read into your post you know it "feels right" to make the step because you would regret it later otherwise. I guess you should do what feels right, some opportunities only come once and you have probably seen everything there is to be seen where you are now so why not go somewhere where everything is fresh and new.

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