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Familiarity vs. Innovation: Metagaming in LoL - Page 2

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cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
February 08 2012 03:17 GMT
#21
Cool write up, i agree with what your saying on the topic!
Greed leads to just about all losses.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 04:28:12
February 08 2012 03:31 GMT
#22
Riku are u online now?

ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
February 08 2012 03:40 GMT
#23
On February 08 2012 10:12 Roe wrote:
hi riku!


wow, said what i was about to say.

+ Show Spoiler +
hi
Jaedong :3
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 08 2012 04:21 GMT
#24
On February 08 2012 12:01 Riku wrote:
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On February 08 2012 11:52 Seiuchi wrote:
On February 08 2012 11:38 Riku wrote:

I agree with that, which is why I called it "stretching the meta" instead of "breaking the meta" in reference to M5's AD Kennen. While having a ranged AD bot is within the meta, Kennen is not considered an AD carry, so using him as one is a stretch of the metagaming concept of playing Kennen as AP top or mid.



See, this is where my hate for the community comes into place.

Talking about picking Kennen and then surprising your opponent by playing him AD is actual metagaming because you're countering established attitudes and conceptions.

But then since you use 'meta' to refer to standard gameplay as well NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE said together.


"Metagaming is a broad term usually used to define any strategy, action or method used in a game which transcends a prescribed ruleset, uses external factors to affect the game, or goes beyond the supposed limits or environment set by the game. Another definition refers to the game universe outside of the game itself."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metagaming


I believe both of our definitions are correct, but, please, hate as you will.

On the topic of metagame/metagaming, Chill wrote a giant post about it before, because he was mad:

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=130447

The only time I use the word metagame in a game of League, is when I first/second pick (before the enemy has picked a mid-laner) Kassadin for fun, and the enemy team sends a squishy AP mid instead of counter-picking, because it's the standard lane set-up. Then, as I get horribly fed, every time I kill the enemy, I yell 'METAGAME' (even though I'm misusing the word) into all-chat. That's about the only trolling I do, too. :3
you gotta dance
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 04:25:28
February 08 2012 04:23 GMT
#25
The meta can change a lot, it really depends on the game more than the players really. Dota meta changes so often it's hard to keep track even though it's been around for a lot longer, it just has so many more variables. LoL is a lot more rigid, and only certain things work because of game mechanics. Don't think it has anything to do with the players at all. If people want things to change they have to try a LOT harder, and often it will fail horribly the first time attempted.
Riku
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1064 Posts
February 08 2012 04:53 GMT
#26
On February 08 2012 12:31 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Riku are u online now?



Sorry, just had one class and running off to a meeting now. I'll probably be online later tonight, though I should be doing massive amounts of hw instead.

On February 08 2012 12:40 ReketSomething wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 10:12 Roe wrote:
hi riku!


wow, said what i was about to say.

+ Show Spoiler +
hi


Rofl, hello, there.

;D

Creative Director, CEO at Stumbling Cat, Writer for Broken Joysticks - Twitter: @RikuKat
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
February 08 2012 05:00 GMT
#27
I should too.. apparently I have a lab tomorrow and another midterm thursday XD
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
February 08 2012 05:54 GMT
#28
Breaking the meta is a gimmick, because every1 else figures out how to beat it, works as a surprise, or copies it, and it becomes a new meta.

Not playing within the meta also has some consequences. Because there is a jungler in LoL, you can break lane counters by picking a ganking jungler and actively ganking.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
February 08 2012 08:31 GMT
#29
Can't find u, just gonna go to bed.
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