New RPGs are Terrrible - Page 3

On January 30 2012 11:16 Waxangel wrote:
the amount of hate in this thread makes me smile

On January 30 2012 10:27 atmuh wrote:

ok this post made me angry so here we go

i played through ffx all the way to the end so dont even tell me that you have to play the entire game to like it
the battle system was well done (although REALLY dumbed down for idiots to be able to not die) so ill give it that
the sphere grid was just stupid it was a really well disguised straight line that offered you next to nothing in the way of choices and made you look at a stupid ability screen WAY MORE than you really had to
the story was just a whiny kid even moreso than the other final fantasy games and thats saying something
the music was forgettable for the most part
there was no exploration you just ran up for basically the entire game
i could keep going but ill just say that when i finally finished that game i was just plain ANGRY that i wasted my time with it


and look at this guy using that fantastic buzzword "hipster" that kids love to use these days
just because someone doesnt like new stuff (which in fact is trash) doesnt make them a hipster buddy
i played mass effect for like 2 hours and couldnt take the ridiculous amount of dialogue that the game wanted to shove down your through and expect you to enjoy, and thats the same of every bioware rpg
old rpgs were good because they didnt take themselves ridiculously seriously and add in all this nonsense that is suppose to "enhance the story and the users experience" when instead all it does is WASTE MY TIME
old rpgs had characters say what was needed to be said to progress through the story and develop the characters and that was it
there wasnt extra nonsense that had you sit there thinking to yourself why on earth am i actually playing this

honestly theres no hope for you if you seriously think old rpgs didnt have a cohesive storyline

On January 30 2012 10:48 babylon wrote:
FF7 is overrated. Protags were boring, antags were boring, graphics were bleh, music was bleh, storyline was shit -- though to be fair, most FF storylines are shit. Squeenix can't actually write any coherent stories. I've spent an obscene amount of time trying to convince myself to like FF7 more, but I just can't manage it.

FF8 is incoherent story-wise and somewhat incoherent character-wise, but all the characters are legitimately interesting when you sit down and look at them in the context of the environment they were raised in. They're basically all sociopathic/psychopathic kids. They left a lot of threads dangling though at the end and could've done more. So many interesting themes that were dropped halfway through. Junction system is lol once you learn how to abuse it.

I can't remember much about FF9 other than it was actually fun.

As for FFX, I am convinced it actually has the best-constructed FF story. You may think it's boring, but it's the one that doesn't give you as big a headache when you're trying to wrap your head around it after you've finished playing it. Whether or not you think the battle system is shit -- I liked it, but tbh, I've spent so long playing Pokemon that I didn't have any trouble with it -- the way the story's brought together is ... not great, but pretty damn good by Squeenix standards. It's a little more exploratory than the other games in the series, and I liked the thematic groundwork they laid out. Characters are pretty boring though but still probably the most consistently written characters in all the FF series up until then.

FF8's my favorite; it's also probably the one with the most failed potential out of all of them.

Best games on the PS1 are the Spyro games anyways. Gogogo, platformers.

On January 30 2012 10:27 atmuh wrote:
just because someone doesnt like new stuff (which in fact is trash) doesnt make them a hipster buddy
i played mass effect for like 2 hours and couldnt take the ridiculous amount of dialogue that the game wanted to shove down your through and expect you to enjoy, and thats the same of every bioware rpg
old rpgs were good because they didnt take themselves ridiculously seriously

On January 30 2012 11:30 Arkless wrote:

FF7 , made by squareSOFT. Amazing protags and antags that led to many spin offs and a movie. The amazing storyline helped. For those who shit on FF7 i can't help but think you are either a) Of a much younger era then me (I was born in 1985)
OR B) You aren't smart enough to UNDERSTAND the story. That's different then a story being shit. The fact that you praise even a small amount of FF8 and shit on FF7, proves as such. You then go on to say how FFX is the best of them all??? Is that a troll? FF8 was one of, if not THE worst of the final fantasies. And for the time the FF7 graphics were revolutionary, if you're to young to remember it thats not my fault.

On January 30 2012 11:30 Arkless wrote:

FF7 , made by squareSOFT. Amazing protags and antags that led to many spin offs and a movie. The amazing storyline helped. For those who shit on FF7 i can't help but think you are either a) Of a much younger era then me (I was born in 1985)
OR B) You aren't smart enough to UNDERSTAND the story. That's different then a story being shit. The fact that you praise even a small amount of FF8 and shit on FF7, proves as such. You then go on to say how FFX is the best of them all??? Is that a troll? FF8 was one of, if not THE worst of the final fantasies. And for the time the FF7 graphics were revolutionary, if you're to young to remember it thats not my fault.

On January 30 2012 11:36 Kukaracha wrote:


Please don't make FFVII lose credibility with all the emo fanservicing sequels and other milk cows. Let's just talk about the original game and forget that they actually used a popstar in DoC.

But I do agree, FFX had a fun story, but it was simplistic, and its only interest was the twist at the ending. If you want a fairytale, the Zelda series are much, much better.

FFVI was very mature, and FFVII was pretty dark too in some places (Turks are assassins, people tend to forget that), and the eco-terrorism/cyberpunk compination was pretty sweet. But FFVIII launched the new era of "hey, emo kids are heroes now!".

On January 30 2012 11:28 sermokala wrote:


The grid system was a great leveling up technique. Also there where some orbs that changed it up a bit. It was a stright line for most of the way but I think it was a lot better mechanic then other FF's have done.

there was a lot of exploration in FFX you obviously just didn't even try to find any of it. The game had a lot of depth to it and you obviously just wanted to play a COD RPG (probably coming up soon) from what you're saying.

lets break this one down. a Role Playing Game. whats the strongest part of the game? the story line. You don't like having more story line in a game. The reason why I call you a hipster is because this is everything that hipsters do. How much longer will it take for people to love sc2 and its story line. It happens with every single series the older games where better regardless of how old they where or how people didn't like them then.

People like to romantizise the past and its probably a lot worse with gamers and the childhood connection to them. It being the first games that they've played played and then they expect that all games should be like it forward. there is a lot more money in games and they can do so much more with them. can you explain whats going on in in FF7 in less then 3 pages? can you honestly tell me that tidus is worse then cloud?

It baffles me that you don't like story and don't want more of it and it to make sense. It baffles me that people think games where better when you could count the number of pixels each character was made with and they didn't talk. Just go back to playing FPS's thats obviously your speed of things.

I'm not trying to spread hate I'm for friendship, friendship everywhere.

On January 30 2012 11:30 Arkless wrote:

FF7 , made by squareSOFT. Amazing protags and antags that led to many spin offs and a movie. The amazing storyline helped. For those who shit on FF7 i can't help but think you are either a) Of a much younger era then me (I was born in 1985)
OR B) You aren't smart enough to UNDERSTAND the story. That's different then a story being shit. The fact that you praise even a small amount of FF8 and shit on FF7, proves as such. You then go on to say how FFX is the best of them all??? Is that a troll? FF8/X are two of, if not THE worst of the final fantasies. It was trying so hard to BE final fantasy 7, Squall-Cloud ripoff, and Seifer(oth)?????Cmon son, at least be original

PS:for the time the FF7 graphics were revolutionary, if you're to young to remember it thats not my fault.

On January 30 2012 11:55 babylon wrote:

> You don't like what I like!
> Therefore, you're not smart enough to understand the story!

Logic'd, clearly.

1.) Quality does not --> sequels/spinoffs for video games. Popularity --> sequels/spinoffs. Sometimes quality and popularity go together; more often than not, they don't. Pokemon has had so many sequels I've lost count of what generation we're on these days.

2.) Lern 2 read. I didn't say FFX was the best; I said it was the best-constructed of them all. The plot was overly simplistic, but that simplicity allowed them to present it better without getting the entire game lost in its own plot, which has pretty much happened with almost every other FF game out there. Complex plots that are too complicated for their own good do not good games make; just look at ... most RPGs and compare them with, say, Shadow of the Colossus or Ico, which are pretty much works of art insofar as video games go.

3.) I don't even know how to address this one, but Seifer is in no way like Sephiroth. They're not even of the same character type, and they have completely different motivations. Unless you're suggesting that Sephiroth is primarily a gloryhound of near-Gilgamesh-proportions and perfectly sane and aware of what he's doing.

On January 30 2012 09:56 atmuh wrote:
final fantasy X was HORRENDOUS

On January 30 2012 12:01 Tasaio wrote:
As for newer games, I find the Tales of~ series good (they hardly change, though). Tales of Graces was good. I really liked FFXIII, it had a lack of towns, but a nice story and the best battle system I've seen in a long time. Also, the ending was a bit disappointing. I'm playing through FFXIII-2 at the moment.

One of my most favorite JRPG games ever is Persona 4 (and 3). If you haven't checked those out, I definitely recommend it.

But then again, aside from a few top titles (Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger), I see more appeal in newer games, so my advice might not be for you.

1.) Quality does not --> sequels/spinoffs for video games. Popularity --> sequels/spinoffs. Sometimes quality and popularity go together; more often than not, they don't. Pokemon has had so many sequels I've lost count of what generation we're on these days.

On January 30 2012 12:09 canucks12 wrote:
Get with the super mario rpg